1. Mo

May 25, 2009 @ 8:50 pm

Did Jon arrive at the birthday party in a porsche?

2. iowafan

May 25, 2009 @ 8:58 pm

My DH just said he’d like a Kate pinata for his next birthday.

3. mully

May 25, 2009 @ 9:16 pm

You could cut the tension with a knife during the loveseat interview with both of them together. They both acted very defensive.

The only good thing I can say about the episode is that they do both seem committed to making sure that their kids dont suffer because of what may happen between them.

I hope that stays true, but I am still, and even more than ever after watching this episode, hoping they decide to end the show.

I highly doubt that will happen though.

4. iowafan

May 25, 2009 @ 9:20 pm

I agree, Mully

5. anita haley

May 25, 2009 @ 9:32 pm

please try to work things out not for the kids but for the two of you. get back to where you were when you started the show. get mad hit each other, but getting a divorce is the easy way out. go to hawaii just the 2 of you, after that show the 2 of you were touching each other and to me that’s a sign of love, please fine that love again. i enjoy the show but i didn’t enjoy watching the friction between the 2 of you tonight. don’t give up. stop the show if you have to, do anything to save your marriage, family. please. pray, pray turn it over to God. from someone that will pray for you.

6. Sandy

May 25, 2009 @ 9:39 pm

I am embarrased for what I just saw. Remeber when Kate used to film without makeup and wearing a wig on her kids bday. that was when is was REALity. Watch it Kate. Fame is getting to you. It may just backfire and divorce will be the least of your problems. Your kids disliking you for it on the other hand…

7. Patty

May 25, 2009 @ 9:47 pm

Jon’s car is a Nissan Nismo.

Yes, I agree, the tension was very thick. It was actually quite painful to watch. I don’t like that Kate now refers to Jon as “him” and “he.” I don’t like that Jon now refers to Kate and “she” and “her.” I also thought those few minutes of footage when he arrived at the party shouldn’t have been filmed. She’s ignoring him and he’s ignoring her.

There ought to be laws about the paparazzi, too. That’s just insane what they do to people! BUT, at the same time, Jon & Kate are the ones who signed up for this, and should have realized what it would come to in the long term.

I’m not defending either Jon or Kate. Jon needs to get with the program and step it up a little bit. He does come across as being a little clueless in some respects, but I don’t blame him. He can’t win for trying with her! Yes, he made a VERY BAD decision, but Kate has emasculated him with her verbal and emotional assaults.

They’re kidding themselves if they think their children won’t be affected by this or that they won’t remember it!

It was actually a very sad episode. To see such tension at what was supposed to be a happy episode.

Compared to where they were five years ago, I wonder if they now think pimping out their kids was worth the toll it has taken on their marriage, their family life, their children’s well-being.

St. Kate she ain’t. She hasn’t been exactly perfect here either. I think she speaks to that in one part of the interview. She now realizes that she’s been a bee-otch. However, I don’t see a lot of willingness on her part to make things work. Everything she talked about was me me me. It was all about her, how she’s home alone with the kids, how she’s doing it by herself, etc. I wonder how she’s going to pay for that $1.3M house by herself, too? I don’t buy the crocodile tears during her couch interview either. She’s in it for one reason and one reason only. I really don’t think she wants to make it work for Jon and her. I don’t think she really cares how it impacts the kids. She’s in it for one reason and one reason only - MONEY MONEY MONEY. Was the MONEY and the BIG HOUSE really all worth sacrificing yourselves, your family, your friends?

Overall, a very sad episode. I really hope they can work things out, but I don’t think Kate really wants to. I’m not so sure Jon wants to either.

Saw the previews for next week. Now what? We will have to watch each of them take separate vacations with each kid?

To quote a former boss of mine, “It’s lonely at the top.” Am I right, Kate?

8. mully

May 25, 2009 @ 10:07 pm

8:04: Is it just me, or does Jon seem like he’s had a drink or two?

Prescott: I noticed the same thing! Jon looked awful in many of those interviews. He looked really bloated.

8:06: Kate: “I have a lot of anger.” And you wouldn’t like Kate when she’s angry.

Yeah, when Kate made that statement, I thought to myself, “have you SEEN your husband? Talk about anger!”

8:16: Creepy for the kids to say “paparazzi”, not creepy to expose your kids to them in the first place.

Noticeable to me too. She seems unaware that she can control that situation.

8:23: Well there, Kate just validated all the haters.

Oh yeah, I just loved that one. She makes sure that she “thanks” all of her fans who dont like her because we keep her show going! Very snarky of you, Kate and you want us to like you?

8:34: Look at how Kate has to do everything by herself….

I mentioned on the other blog that she lost big points when she kept mentioning how no matter that she was all alone this weekend, SOMEONE had to do the party for the tups. Each time with a long suffering sigh, so that we ALL know that Kate is always there when the chips are down and even tho his name was never mentioned, boy did you hear JON! JON! JON! loud and clear.

9. Chris G.

May 25, 2009 @ 10:18 pm

How can anyone be so critical of Jon and Kate? Can You put yourself in their position of having eight young growing children and having it play out on tv??? I love them both and hope they can find common ground. I also hope they can find the passion and dreams that originally brought them together. That could mean time together for them without children. Good luck Jon and Kate! We will be watching and hoping.

10. mully

May 25, 2009 @ 10:21 pm

How can anyone be so critical of Jon and Kate? Can You put yourself in their position of having eight young growing children and having it play out on tv???

No. I cant. Because I never would.

12. stepfanie

May 25, 2009 @ 10:52 pm

I can not believe people now a days i couldnt even imagin what kate is going thru this is a hard time not only for her but jon and thier kids because they have no clue whats going on other then mommy and daddy are acting funny.
the poeple that are judgin jon and kate, just because they are tv dosent give you the right to be mean and judge them they are just as much human as you or me. i pray and hope they work it out i support them 100% regardless of thier choices because THEY ARE HUMAN. and i hope they ignore the people that are being snoty and rude and are scared to look in thier back doors so they have to talk about other people, because in the end this is going to hurt the kids and they have nothing to do with this B.S.
On that note i hope everything works out and i hope jon and kate are happy and make whatever choice they make for thier kids and their life dont let the haters get you as my husband just said to me
with love stepfanie from michigan

13. Chris G.

May 25, 2009 @ 11:11 pm

I guess I still cannot be critical of Kate … or Jon. I just cannot believe they knew how public all this would be. How could anyone??? Could you? How could anyone know what they were getting into really? Kate acts out within the home and Jon acts out outside the home. Jon buys an expensive car without consulting his wife and Kate demeans. Both need to find ground. Kate and Jon need to send 8 kids to college. Add it up! It makes me very sad for them.

14. Chris G.

May 25, 2009 @ 11:13 pm

For Stephanie ….

DITTO!!!!

15. Heidi williams

May 25, 2009 @ 11:48 pm

The episode was sad, very sad. The awkwardness, the ignorance, the cameras, the children, and jon and kate. Everyone has their opinions so here is mine. Jon and Kate, you are christians and with that comes a love and faith and trust in God. Faith that God will provide. Leave the show, leave the cameras behind, sell the house and fancy car….leave it all behind. Seek marriage counselling from a christian counsellor……and start over. Having 8 kids would definitely have it’s financial burdens, but remember that ultimately it is God who provides. Go back to simplier times, remember why you fell in love. I think that all this reality TV has given a black cloud over your family….if you say you do it all for your kids, well do all the above for your kids. They don’t care about fancy things and paid trips to Disney or skiing etc…BUT they will care years from now when their mom and dad are no longer together, that will affect each child even if you do your best to protect them.
Remember the word forgiveness and begin healing. And the biggest part about it all is PRAY as a family, as a couple and on your own.

16. Mary

May 26, 2009 @ 3:41 am

What a very sad episode tonight(5/25). But did anyone think this wasn’t coming. In all the interviews does either one say they still LOVE each other and want to work on it. In 44yrs with my husband NEVER have I spoken to him the way Kate does to Jon. We recently had 7 couples over and watched the show. The men were appalled. Kate is so cutting to Jon, the constant put downs. But if Kate’s not happy noone else can be. The nicest we have ever seen her with her kids was the 5th B’day party. She says she doesn’t care what people thin, but maybe she better or there won’t be a show or book sales. We can see why Jon is fed up. Maybe he should let Miss Perfect go Hollywood!! They need to pray on this. What kind of a family did she come from? We know Jon loved his Dad he speaks so lovingly of his Dad, we find Kate to be cold. While we adore the kids we will no longer watch the show. We can see Kate is not a very forgiving person and only needs Jon for his services with the kids. Hope she’s missing him and starting to appreciate all that he does. For the kids hope they can work it out. Just once treat Jon like a man, we all saw this coming about 2yrs ago! People surpried? Not anyone I know!! And we don’t believe any of the stories going around about Jon. We really don’t think either one would cheat on each other, and we believe Jon.

17. Dejais

May 26, 2009 @ 6:52 am

Hey Jon and Kate….your 15 minutes of fame is up. Please find the exit door.

18. Jessica

May 26, 2009 @ 7:03 am

I can’t believe nobody’s mentioned this yet, but did anybody notice that two of the 5 YEAR OLD girls were in high chairs??? WTF? That’s totally weird. 5 is way too old to be in a high chair. (It was towards the beginning when the kids were eating breakfast sans Jon.)

Another pet peeve of mine, when people have 7, 8 and 9 year olds in strollers. It’s so wrong.

19. Jennifer

May 26, 2009 @ 9:03 am

I find this situation so sad. Whats even more sad is the petty people who are writing horrible things about this family. In no way are they perfect, yes they have made many mistakes. But the hounding is just plain wrong. I’m not saying, give them a break. I’m saying, step back and picture yourself in their shoes. Whether they put them in this situation or not, they are still people!

With Jon in the beginning of the episode, he didn’t look so good. I’m just boggled over the whole situation. Kate is off doing her press and book tour because Jon doesn’t like to do that. So he is home with the kids. And Kate comes home, the Jon not wanting to work on their marriage. He’s seen partying and with younger girls and he’s driving a brand new porsche. Is he trying to go back and be young? Idk. I just feel awful for those kids. They didnt ask for any of this.

20. Jennifer

May 26, 2009 @ 9:06 am

RE:Jessica

Yes, the kids are still using those high chairs, but if you look closely, they took the front off, so it just look likes a chair. They are actually very popular, if you go to any baby furniture place, they sell these highchairs that convert to regular chairs. Why should they not use them anymore? And buy 6 regular chairs, when there is nothing wrong with what they are using?

21. Maria

May 26, 2009 @ 11:03 am

This reminds me of what many Black women experience. Kate might be tough, but she has had to be. What is a woman supposed to do when she is desperately working on the very survival of her family? Joh should deal with Kate’s response to him, and correct her rather than abandon his family.

I think he was whiney and lacked a sense of commitment. It is time for Jon to rise to the occasion. I admire Kate for being strong and understanding what it takes to maintain a family. It is something many Black women in particular have had to endure given a history of slavery and the destruction of the family.

It saddens me to see it spreading to other cultures. Men appear to be loosing sight of the importance of family.

22. Lynda

May 26, 2009 @ 2:47 pm

Maria said:
May 26, 2009 @ 11:03 am

This reminds me of what many Black women experience. Kate might be tough, but she has had to be. What is a woman supposed to do when she is desperately working on the very survival of her family?

I have no idea what the heck your point is here. There are millions of women raising their children, for the most part, on their own. AND, they don’t have live in nannies, chefs, gardeners, etc. There are also men doing the same thing, also without benefit of help. And you know what? These moms and dads don’t have time to sit around and wallow in self pity, they JUST do it!

23. mully

May 26, 2009 @ 4:53 pm

Maria: I, too, dont get your point. I especially think you are dumping an entire culture of women (Black) into one lump sum and thats a pretty unfair statement to make.

As Lynda said, there are millions of women, from all walks of life, all races who have endured much more than Kate Gosselin has endured and they have done it with a lot less help and financial stability.

For centuries, families have stuck together in times of trial and tribulation, especially when there are children involved. Kate has no family, she has effectively cut off all ties with her family (ies) and in doing so has alienated any chance for her children to know that they belong to a family.

I think its very sad that the tups have no idea who their grandparents are. At least Mady and Cara have memories of the Kreider grandparents.

As far as Jon’s passive nature. Its my opinion that that is exactly what drew Kate to him in the first place. She couldnt be in a relationship with someone she couldnt push around and manipulate.

If Kate truly wants to be in charge, let her, there’s no law that says the wife cant wear the pants in the family. Unfortunately, in this family, Im pretty sure Jon is getting pretty fed up with Kate not only wearing the pants but also tired of Kate giving him absolutely no credit for anything he does for her or the children.

24. Valerie

May 26, 2009 @ 5:24 pm

Maria, I think that Kate is the one who lost sight of the importance os family a long time ago. Kate wants to be the bread winner, and Jon is her puppy dog. He does whatever Kate says. He let her drive all family and friends away. I think he enjoyed all the freebies and perks, but recently realized that this is not the way he wants to live. I don’t agree that hanging out with the college crowd is the way to go. He should be refusing to continue with their sham of a reality show and either work on his marriage PRIVATELY or end the marriage once and for all. Kate needs to stay home and start raising her kids and fixing her family for they are indeed broken.

What in the world does any of this have to do with Black women???

25. Beth

May 26, 2009 @ 6:53 pm

Like all of us, Jon and Kate are not perfect. Believe me I am no fan of Kate, and I actually used to like Jon better, which I do not now.
But when the last last 6 kids were born they (more than likely Kate, who like any mother worth her salt really tried to figure out the realities of how to provide a good future for their family of 10) took action and due to the interest they generated being a family with 8 babies, did the next best thing they could do- this is America and reality show era-, and agreed to have a camera follow them around in exchange for financial security. GENIOUS! If any of us came face to face with that opportunity and had children to raise (never mind we would be fools not to take it.
Sure, many people say they are greedy to want so much, (although Jon now pretends he never wanted any of it). Really? Greedy? what do we ALL want? The bare necessitites: a home, food, education, health insurance. How about the reality of what we all really want, and can have if we just bust our butts through a dual working household each working a 60 hour work week executive-type job, or own a business where you then work 80 hours/wk, etc.? A comfortable home where our children have room to play and thrive, and maybe even feel happy to bring their friends over -never mind the parents feeling proud and comfortable with their surroundings and able to entertain friends and family, good schools for the kids, dance classes and ability to afford the costumes for the recitals, music classes and the ability to afford the piano, etc., team sports and the ability to afford the fees and equipment, braces for the kids, take the family occassionally out to a movie and a bite to eat, take to a cultural event, sporting event, take the kids to Disney, take the family for a yearly vacation to recharge the batteries, send the kids to camp, send the kids to college, maybe put in a pool, change the carpet, paint the house every few years, update appliances, get the good grill, good beds for the kids and parents, update the TV every 8-10 years, etc etc. I could go on…
There is not one person reading this that doesn’t want or need some or all of these things at some point and wish they had the ability to do it when needed… These are basic things really, they make the fabric of a person’s life. And well, kids don’t raise themselves and money doesn’t grow on trees! Kate was a nurse who worked in the beginning until it was crazy to continue because 8 kids need their mother and it was more expensive to pay than to take care of them herself. John was a computer programmer whose salary would never be able to provide the basics for 10 people. There is a difference about the goals humans have- is it to just barely get by (food, shelter, whatever education you can get?) or the goal and desire to have a measure of quality and some culture along with it? Kate took the opportunity presented because she wants to raise the kids well, who blames her? John went along because although he is a blameless wimp (yeah, that’s the reality, he loves his kids, won’t hurt a fly, etc. but lacks a back bone) he too realized it’s better to live well than to have a ‘job’ and just ‘get by’.
So off they went, day after day, following their scripted routines which some people criticize, but how often can you just talk about poop and cranky kids?? Since Kate wants culture for her kids it’s great that they have story lines that take them out of the house on various activities and events. This is what makes it interesting for us to watch.
Then the ‘Aunt Jody’ thing comes along, and aunt Jody is clearly sour graping at not being paid (although Really Kate? why not share the joy? Aunt Jody deserves to be paid like you, especially if she is helping you with your kids and it’s not your money after all. Why not ask the very rich Network to pay anyone who is part of the show?).
I said in the beginning I’m not a big fan of Kate, but with her faults and all (overbaring? little respect for Jon?), I give her credit for raising to the challenge of being a mother who wants her 8 kids to grow up with quality and family values and seizing an opportunity. I would never call her lazy, nor Jon really. She left her job as a nurse and took the job of speaker, writer, tv personality, and this brought her and the kids a life filled with exciting experiences and adventures, a bigger home, a tummy tuck which after carrying 6 kids at once she well deserved, hair plugs for John, a cook and house keeper- the least the Networks can do since it takes time to do things with the kids to keep the show interesting -because as much as we would Love to see a haggard mother slaving away at the stove, cleaning toilets, folding laundry for 10 people, that’s exactly what Kate wanted to avoid in her life and I don;t blame her, the good life shouldn’t be just for the kids- she is definitely not a lazy woman and greatly loves her kids, everyone should benefit.
Now Jon- queue the violins- who says he now has no identity -he is ‘Jon and Kate Plus 8′, not Jon anymore,but who can now buy the sports car of his choice, goes skiing with his daughter in Utah, has acres and acres of property, etc. He says he has no job, no privacy, no independence. Well, whose fault is that? As for privacy and independece -YOU Have 8 kids Jon!!!. You are in the business of raising kids until they leave the home on their own. Deal with it like the rest of us. No Job? Why did he have to leave his computer work? Many men wealthy or not have an office at home, or are self employed. But like I said before he has no backbone and no leadership. If he had both he would have long ago said to Kate: “fine, will help you raise the kids at home and do this tv thing since we do get ALL this money, but I will do my work from home and will continue my career and my hobbies since they are important to me and make me who I am…, etc. etc”. “After all, you have your books, your speaking engagements, your facials and manicures…”, “And further I will apreciate it if you did not correct me in public, I am your husband and demand the same respect and courtesy I grant you…”
If he had taken that stance in the beginning Kate might really have grown to respect him. We love our men to be self assured. Respect is EARNED by the actions we take Jon! not just buy giving and giving and giving until you resent the person and blow up.
And finally, financial needs for a large family aside, I hope that they are setting aside some daily time for the kids when there are no cameras, or some downtime where they can just be kids, and have privacy around special occassions and holidays, sick days, etc. because ALL the money in the world won’t be enough to pay the Analyst bills for how ‘not normal’ they are growing up, and their skewed sense of reality and self.

26. Valerie

May 26, 2009 @ 7:22 pm

I give her credit for raising to the challenge of being a mother who wants her 8 kids to grow up with quality and family values and seizing an opportunity. I would never call her lazy, nor Jon really.

She might have originally wanted this, but she certainly lost it along the way. You see, money, material possessions, always wanting bigger and better do notbring forth quality or family values. Actually, I would call both of them lazy. They took the easy way out and now they are paying for it.

I guess I would be considered a fool by Beth because under no circumstances would I expect my kids to pay my way. Under no circumstances would I have let cameras in my home to intrude on my children’s privacy. You don’t need 5 vacations a year, a million dollar home, courtside seats at a basketball game, state of the art kitchen appliances, box seats at a ballgame, personal trainers, weekly spa visits, hair plugs, weekly tannings, etc. to have quality or solid family values. They went way too far. Jon, at least, realizes this. Kate never will!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do agree that Jon needed to stand up to Kate a long, long time ago.

27. Carrie

May 26, 2009 @ 7:36 pm

We wish Jon the best of luck. He can do better.

28. Patty

May 26, 2009 @ 8:05 pm

Wasn’t it Kate who said she “quit her job as a nurse to stay home full time to take care of the kids?” I thought staying home and raising her family was her job - not out on the road doing book signings.

I read again someplace today on one of these blogs somebody said that Jon was fired from his last job because the insurance premiums were too high for his company. NOPE!!! He was fired because he was doing side jobs on company time using company resources. It had NOTHING to do with insurance premiums.

Kate needs some serious psychological counseling.

Jon needs to stand up for himself and stop being so passive-aggressive. He also needs to get a job outside the home. He needs some male friends to hang out with.

It was very, very sad to hear Alexis tell her dad not to leave again. Whoever thinks this isn’t psychologically impacting those “Eight Little Faces,” think again!

It’s also very sad that Kate thinks it’s so wonderful that Mady & Cara have stepped up and are pitching in. They are 8 years old!!!! Let them have a childhood!!!!!

The whole situation is just very, very sad. Kate needs to lay off, lighten up, quit being such a bee-och, and realize the world doesn’t revolve around her. I think she’s very lucky to have somebody like Jon, who DOES help and who doesn’t tell her to shove off!

Jon needs to man up. Put Kate in her place.

The cameras need to go away.

The children need to recoup whatever is left of their childhood.

The silence around the picnic table last night was very sad. Not my idea of a good time. No one laughing, no one talking. Nice dinner!

29. Beth

May 26, 2009 @ 8:37 pm

Valerie, I agree that hard work and grit are the best way to make your way in life and are the basis for excellent values, but a family of 10 with 8 kids under 4 (at the time) were going to need a bit more than that. That’s where I feel that someone presented with that desperate landscape since not a lot of family around either, and being handed out this amazing apportunity for a better way of life most would probably take it. I never mentioned mansions or 5 vacations a year to be happy, I mentioned basic things like braces, and activitites for the kids -if you want learnings and culture- or the ability to buy new carpeting or upgrade appliances when needed -if you care about comfortable living- and go to a movie or sports event, or even the obligatory trip to Disney. Rich and poor people alike want these.
Values are unique beliefs that we hold dear and live by and not only poor people have them, there are some wealthy people who have them as well. I do not think they were lazy, I think they just imagined something different, and the reality is not what they bargained for, I do agree that a simple desire to live well and educate your kids, when being handed a ton of money to do it, as can happen in our country, can quickly turn to greed and you do lose yourself and what you hold dear. hopefully they are still young to realize that and do something about stopping the madness and getting back to some real basics if family is what they value.

30. Linda Rogers

May 26, 2009 @ 8:49 pm

I love the kids and have always watched.I’d like to see more. But now with the 5 year olds going to school in fall, I think the show should stop, and the parents should go back to their jobs. Give all 8 kids a chore to do. And everyone will do better. Kate has always been too controlling and too bossy. She needs to cool down, treat Jon with respect. Jon and Kate need to find each other without the tv cameras. I think they don’t need to travel and promote books. Stay home and work on your Love and marriage.Besides Jon can’t afford the house and child support payments!!Neither Jon or Kate should look to someone else for comfort and love and listening. Look to yourself. Get over it Jon,you are a daddy and need to stay home to drink.Both of you need to respect each other and improve on your faults.Kate can’t be “perfect” all the time ,stop controlling people.The job gets done,everyone has their own way of doing it.Maybe the show has gone to Kate’s head!