Obama vs. McCain; Are you ready to get the Government you deserve? UPDATE: VOTE!!!


Okay, while The Imperfect Parent strives to be non-partisan, we thought we’d give our readers a rare opporunity on this blog to express their opinions and give you a forum to support and respectfully debate the current issues leading to a critical decision this pending election.
Please keep in mind, — be civil and respectful and remember, just because someone has negative or opposing opinions about your candidate, doesn’t mean they’re a “bad” person or that they’re dumb. The only dumb people are those who don’t vote. Be there or be square on Tuesday, November 4th and post your reactions here.
Happy politicking.
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UPDATE:
Who wants to predict the outcome? Will we know today or even at the end of the week? Could this decision change everyone’s life forever?
Please, take advantage of our precious freedom and vote!
Also, be sure to check out Julie’s new column today, to see who’s voice she’s really missing right now.
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121. momof3_ipmod
November 5, 2008 @ 1:16 pm
Mully said:
That’s great! lol
God help us all!
122. CarolAnn
November 5, 2008 @ 2:33 pm
What the h*** is wrong with everyone? I’m so disgusted with this election I could scream. For all those who are “educated, informed voters” for Obama tell me ONE thing he is going to change that is a plus for this country? NOTHING, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA.
Doesn’t anyone think it’s a little strange that CHINA, JAPAN, VENEZUELA, ENGLAND, FRANCE etc are jumping up and down because he won?
Here’s another scary thought….WHAT is Obama gonna have to do to this country to PAY BACK all those who bought him??? His 600 million came from somewhere and these people are gonna want a return on their investment and interest with it.
ObamaNATION is exactly right Mully!
Ambull I agree wholeheartedly!
123. GrandmafrmKs.
November 6, 2008 @ 3:57 am
Food for thought: The President should not have a partisan super-majority, meaning filibuster-proof. We should have had the good sence to voted responsible for our senators and representatives. They’re the ones who will be doing most of the behind-the-scenes stuff the rest of us will be paying for. we’d better count on it. A straight partisan White House, House and Senate spells trouble ahead.
It doesn’t matter wheather you are Democrat or Republican, Facts are Facts!!!
Our Social Security
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Franklin Roosevelt, a Dem. introduced the social security (FICA) program, He promised:
1.) That participation in the program would be completely voluntary.
2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual incomes into the program.
3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year.
4.) That the money the participants put into the Independent “Trust Fund” rather than into the General Operating Fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and ,
5.) That the annunity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.
Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and we arenowreceiving a Social Security check every month and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the federal government to “put away”, you may be interested in the following:
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Q. Which political party took Social Security from the Independent “Trust Fund” and put it in to the General Fund so that Congress could spend it?
A. It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratically- controlled House and Senate.
Q. Which political party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security(FICA) withholding?
A. The Democratic Party
Q. Which political party started taxing Social Security annuties?
A. The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the “tie-breaking” deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the U.S.
Q. Which political party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?
A. Thats right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, they began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them even tho ugh they never paid a dime into it!!
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Then after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!!! And the worst part about it is, uninformed citizens believe it.
If enough people were aware of this maybe a seed of awareness would be planted and maybe changes would evolve, Maybe not, some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn’t so. And Congress gives them selves 100% retirement for only serving one term.
A Government big enough to give you every thing you want, is strong enough to take every thing you have. Thomas Jefferson
124. Allison G_MOD
November 6, 2008 @ 4:22 pm
Well put, Grandma!
125. mully
November 6, 2008 @ 7:43 pm
A letter to all of us who are sure that the decision made on November 4, 2008 was the wrong decision. Alot of sensibility here, perhaps some drama, but Im not sure that the writer isnt spot on in his observations.
Well worth reading.
November 04, 2008
Not the end of the world
It’s easy to let yourself go in despair and start thinking things like “We are well-and-truly fucked” or “This is the worst of all possible outcomes”. But it isn’t true.
I think this election is going to be a “coming of age” moment for a lot of people. They say, “Be careful what you wish for” and a lot of people got their wish yesterday.
And now they’re bound to be disappointed. Not even Jesus could satisfy all the expectations of Obama’s most vocal supporters, or fulfill all the promises Obama has made.
I think Obama is going to turn out to be the worst president since Carter, and for the same reason: good intentions do not guarantee good results. Idealists often stub their toes on the wayward rocks of reality, and fall on their faces. And the world doesn’t respond to benign behavior benignly.
But there’s another reason why: Obama has been hiding his light under a basket. A lot of people bought a pig in a poke today, and now they’re going to find out what they bought. Obama isn’t what most of them think he is. The intoxication of the cult will wear off, leaving a monumental hangover.
And four years from now they’ll be older and much wiser.
A lot of bad things are going to happen during this term. But I don’t think that this is an irreversible catastrophe for the union. I’ve lived long enough to absorb this basic truth: the US is too large and too strong to destroy in just 4 years. Or even in 8. We survived 6 years of Nixon. We survived 4 years of Carter. We even survived 8 years of Clinton, God alone knows how.
The President of the United States is the most powerful political figure in the world, but as national executives go his powers are actually quite restricted. Obama will become President, but he won’t be dictator or king, let alone deity. He still has to work with the House and the Senate, and he still has to live within Constitutional restrictions, and with a judiciary that he mostly didn’t appoint.
The main reason this will be a “coming of age” moment is that now Obama and the Democrats have to put up or shut up. Obama got elected by making himself a blank slate, with vapid promises about “hope” and “change” — but now he actually has to do something. Now he has to reveal his true agenda. And with the Democrats also having a majority in both chambers of Congress, now the Democrats really have to lead. And they’re not going to do a very good job of it. It’s going to be amusing to watch.
And the people who fell for the demagoguery will learn an invaluable lesson.
Oh, the Democrats try to blame failure on Republican filibusters, of which there will be many. But that’s always been a factor in our system, and many people believe it’s an important check on government excess. The tradition in the Senate is that it is supposed to be a buffer against transient political fads, and the filibuster is a major part of that.
If the Democrats go all in, and change the filibuster rule, then they’ll have truly seized the nettle with both hands and won’t have any excuses any longer. That’s why they won’t do it. It’s their last fig-leaf. But even with the filibuster rule in place, they’ll be stuck trying to deliver now on all the promises implied, or inferred, during this election. The Republicans can only filibuster on bills the Democrats have already proposed.
And it ain’t possible for the Democrats to deliver what’s been promised. Gonna be a hell of a lot of disillusioned lefties out there. A lot of people who felt they were deceived. A lot of people who will eventually realize that the Obama campaign was something of a cult.
Disillusionment will turn to a feeling of betrayal. And that will, in turn, convert to anger.
In the mean time, Obama and Congressional Democrats will do things that cause harm, but very little of it will be irreversible.
I would have enjoyed watching lefty heads explode if McCain had won. But we’re going to see lefty heads exploding anyway; it’s just going to take longer.
In the mean time, those of us who didn’t want Obama to be president have to accept that he is. And let’s not give in to the kind of paranoid fever dreams that have consumed the left for the last 8 years. Let us collectively take a vow tonight: no “Obama derangement syndrome”. Obama is a politician. He isn’t the devil incarnate.
So what are the good sides of what just happened?
1. It is no longer possible for anyone to deny that the MSM is heavily biased. The MSM have been biased for decades but managed an illusion of fairness. That is no longer possible; the MSM have squandered their credibility during this campaign. They’ll never get that credibility back again.
2. Since the Democrats got nearly everything they hoped for in this campaign, they’ll have no excuses and will have to produce. They’ll have to reveal their true agenda — or else make clear that they don’t really have any beyond gaining power.
3. Every few decades the American people have to be reminded that peace only comes with strength. The next four years will be this generation’s lesson.
Now, a few predictions for the next four years:
1. Obama’s “hold out your hand to everyone” foreign policy is going to be a catastrophe. They’ll love it in Europe. They’re probably laughing their heads off about it in the middle east already.
2. The US hasn’t suffered a terrorist attack by al Qaeda since 9/11, but we’ll get at least one during Obama’s term.
3. We’re going to lose in Afghanistan.
4. Iran will get nuclear weapons. There will be nuclear war between Iran and Israel. (This is the only irreversibly terrible thing I see upcoming, and it’s very bad indeed.)
5. There will eventually be a press backlash against Obama which will make their treatment of Bush look mild. Partly that’s going to be because Obama is going to disappoint them just as much as all his other supporters. Partly it will be the MSM desperately trying to regain its own credibility, by trying to show that they’re not in his tank any longer. And because of that they are eventually going to do the reporting they should have done during this campaign, about Obama’s less-than-savory friends, and about voter fraud, and about illegal fund-raising, and about a lot of other things.
and 6. Obama will not be re-elected in 2012. He may even end up doing an LBJ and not even running again.
One last thing: I’m not saying I’m happy with this outcome. I would much rather have had McCain win. But this is not the end of the world, or the end of this nation. We’ve survived much worse.
And now we need to show the lefties how to lose. Our mission for the next four years is to be in opposition without becoming deranged.
UPDATE: One other good thing: no one will be spinning grand conspiracy theories about this administration’s Vice President being an evil, conniving genius who is the true power behind the throne.
126. GrandmafrmKs.
November 6, 2008 @ 11:16 pm
Oh my Gosh, we have some ppl on here that should be writing for a living (if they are not) that post Mully just made really tells a lot, better than the media can or will do.
Here is some thing else I ran across and I feel like it needs mentioning again, when will people wake up and see what Obama really stands for?
The following is a narrative taken from a Sunday Morning televised “Meet The Press” and the author is emplyed by none other than the Washington Post! Yeah… the Washington Post of New York and Los Angeles Times Fame!! Must say I’m duely impressed……..
Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. Obama explains National Anthem Stance
General Bill Ginn’ asked Obama to explain why he doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United States Code,Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec.171… During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. At the very least, “Stand and Face It”
Senator Obama Live on Sunday states, “As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking side, Obama said “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American Flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in airand all. It should be swapped for some thing less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song I’d like to teach the world to sing” if that were our anthem, then I might salute it. :we should consider to reinvent our National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our eneimies hope and love. It’s my intention, if elected, to dis-arm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we as a Nation of warring people , should conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam, whereas peace prevails. Perhaps a state or period of mutual concord between our governments, When I become President, I will seek a pact or agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts.
We as a nation have placed upon the nations of Islamunfair injustice. My wife disrespects the Flag for many reasons. Together she and I have attended several Flag burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views and I have mine. Ofcourse now, I have found myself about to become the President of The United States of America and I have put aside my hatred. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path of hope. My wife and I look forward to becoming our country’s First Family indeed, Change is about to overwhelm the United States of America.
And yes this is our next President, whaaaaaat the Hell!!! I Just can not believe the American people knew all of this and still voted him in, and what puzzles me more than any thing is just how many christian people voted him in, How can any one with these ideas and love for the Islam nation that he has become President of this country? Uninformed or stupidity? which ever it is I for one am speechless and yes I believe we are in for a bumpy ride.
One more thing, will he ever salute our Flag?
127. Lillyann
November 6, 2008 @ 11:31 pm
I believe the above is an *urban legend* check out snopes.
BTW, hello
128. mully
November 6, 2008 @ 11:56 pm
As much as I hate to disagree with you on this one Grandma…I got the same email several weeks ago, and to be fair, before I forwarded anything, I ran it thru Snopes. This one, at least in part, was phony.
I do believe, however, that Obama was quoted as having said that he didnt approve of our National Anthem, since, to him, it signified and associated the idea of war. His choice for a more appropriate song for our National Anthem? ID LIKE TO TEACH THE WORLD TO SING.
If only that was all he he wanted to do……
129. GrandmafrmKs.
November 7, 2008 @ 3:30 am
Thank You ladies for pointing me to Snopes, very interesting, next time I’ll do better home work,
And BTW hello to you miss lil”
And yes if only “I’d like to teach the world to sing” was all he wanted to do, fat chance of that, I’m sure before his term is up he’ll be singing a different tune, as well as the American people to.