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Jon and Kate Plus 8: The ones we love to hate

Posted September 29, 2008 at 6:00 pm by Jessica

Well, it’s been almost a year since I wrote my first critical post on Jon and Kate Gosselin. Of course I had no idea what I was getting into. Never could I have imagined that a reality TV show would be met with such ardent opinions, with Kate Gosselin turning out to be quite a polarizing figure. The very mention of Kate Gosselin to those who have caught the show conjures up resentment on one side and admiration, and even sympathy (dare I say “pity”), on the other.

I have mentally divided the “pro” Kate crowd and the “anti” Kate crowd and even though I don’t watch the show on a regular basis (I lost a lot of interest after the first few seasons), I do happen to catch it once in a while. I was never a super-fan, but found some redeeming values in Jon and Kate and can now admit after catching a few reruns that I really can’t stand Kate Gosselin. There, I said it. Now, lest I be associated with the obsessive-stalking-loathing-Kate camp, I wouldn’t waste anymore bandwidth on the subject matter than this post is taking up. Subscribing to the KIA philosophy (Kate is an a-hole), is priority number 16,232, after plucking a stray eyelash out of my eyelid. And even though I have come to terms with the disgust for this woman, I’m not as prepared to run with the KIA crowd. In no way do I want it to be part of my identity. First of all, I have many internet friends who happen to like her, and I have been known to reach across party lines to embrace those with differing opinions [Ed. note: You're such a maverick]. Second of all, I kinda like having my very own villain. Even if it doesn’t make a lot of sense, I kept on watching the reruns while cursing at the television. In fact, the more angry I got, the more I stayed glued.

So, either Kate Gosselin is an a-hole and doesn’t care, or she’s an a-hole who knows how to keep viewers entranced or enraged. After all, Howard Stern gained his popularity by listeners that hated him more so than from listeners that loved him. Something tells me that she isn’t that smart though.

Or is she?

Here are some questions that arose while I sorted laundry and watched with my stink eyes squarely transfixed on two people who have really worked the system. While I’m all for capitalism and getting as much out of your 15 minutes as possible, it’s just human nature to be resentful towards those who seem to be successfully working the system and I have to wonder, in all of Kate’s “organic glory”, why did she rush the IVF IUI and why did her doctor allow it after only a few months of trying and did her insurance pay for it before the standard waiting protocol was met? In all their “riches”, what have the Gosselins ever given back to society? Have they ever had any episodes focus on charitable giving or community outreach?

Now, I don’t have time to make a career out of my unfavorable opinion of Jon and Kate Gosselin, nor do I have time to create entire blogs dedicated to the schadenfreude I might enjoy if Jon and Kate suddenly… get foreclosed upon or find out their kid’s muffin mix was really being imported from China. Unlike some of KIA peeps, I’ll make no pretense about watching for the sake of the children. See, I’m not that easily amused or smitten by children just because they’re children, and the Gosselin rug-(b)rats are no exception. Half the time, I think they’re annoying, but they’re kids, and kids are annoying, so I can’t necessarily hold that against them as unique. Problem is, they’re destined to be even more annoying because their parents are annoying. That’s how it works. Mom’s selfish and indulging, so are their offspring. And I can’t escape the feeling, once the camera’s are turned off that there isn’t a special belt or wooden spoon that gets up close and personal with those kids. It’s hard to imagine that the kids take away from Kate without some ramifications.

The kids may be (sorta) cute now, but just wait until they get older. It wouldn’t surprise me if they went the way of Danny Bonaduce or Dana Plato after all the glitter fades. I will be the first one in line to buy that People magazine too because I’m not above it, but I won’t hold my breath waiting for their downfall. One day, it will just happen and so long as it’s not a totally tragic ending, like someone getting plastered on the front of a school bus, I will chuckle and I won’t feel bad for it because quite frankly, annoying people deserve as much. Why should Kate be above my pshaw anyway? After all, only interesting people make it onto my list. Kate should be honored.

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380 Responses to “Jon and Kate Plus 8: The ones we love to hate”

  1. 1. Lillyann said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 6:23 pm

    A new blog! Don’t know how to act…except perhaps CORRECT you.
    Kate had IUI not IVF.

    How the hell do you pronounce ’schandenfreude’ anyway???? LOL, Jessica.

    Have to admit though, I am a sucker for those kids. They have managed to capture my heart! Kate…not so much.

  2. 2. luvs2sun said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 6:24 pm

    Nice post Jessica, but I would move that eyelash up your priority list. I have had an eyelash cut my cornea and it is very painful…in fact I think Jon mentioned that it happened to him during one of the episodes.
    I agree with you 100%, but once upon a time, I would watch because the kids look just like mine, but I am so over it. They are turning into brats and not so much fun to watch. But mostly, I am so over the “couch” interviews.

  3. 3. Jessica said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 6:42 pm

    Lillyann said: Don’t know how to act…except perhaps CORRECT you.
    Kate had IUI not IVF.

    Doh!

    Well, whatever, IUI/IVF/R2D2, you get my point. ;)

  4. 4. Lillyann said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 7:18 pm

    LOL, I vote for R2D2!

  5. 5. Allison G-MOD said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 7:28 pm

    R2D2! Love it! :D :D :D

  6. 6. mully said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 7:38 pm

    There will always be supporters and non supporters of this show. Much the same as there will always be supporters and non supporters of the likes of Jerry Springer and the fine art of mud wrestling.

    I think Kate is a person many of us love to hate. Some might love her because she has managed to figure out the system and benefit from it, others of us cant stand her because she HAS managed to figure out the system, milks it for all its worth, AND we are the ones paying for it.

    I dislike her because she doesnt have the guts or balls or both to be the person she really is, honestly.

    Shes a fake. Now, I realize that in order to continue the show and to make sure that all the good Christians out there who willingly offer her love offerings continue to do so, she has to portray herself as a sweet, overworked, sometimes even ditzy mother/wife.

    Make no mistake, Kate Gosselin is shrewd and shes learned her craft well.

    I guess if theres anything that starts my blood boiling, its the realization that shes been getting away with it and it seems will continue to do so.

  7. 7. Stacey S_MOD said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 7:39 pm

    LMAO too funny!
    If one side is “pro” & one side is “against”, is this the middle? I’m a middle kinda girl.

  8. 8. Jessica said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 8:01 pm

    Lillyann said: I vote for R2D2!

    Allison G Mod said: R2D2! Love it!

    Yeah, I’m a Star Wars nerd. I guess we all have our vices.

  9. 9. ambull said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 8:03 pm

    well now we know where you really stand…been wondering that since you started the last blog ;) been kinda confused…

    and, really how do you pronounce that big word and what in the frick does it mean??? LOL

    a third blog…hhhmmmm? is this a “meet in the middle” one?

  10. 10. Jessica said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 8:05 pm

    Stacey S Mod said: is this the middle? I’m a middle kinda girl.

    For you:

    Well I don’t know why I came here tonight,
    I got the feeling that something ain’t right,
    I’m so scared in case I fall off my chair,
    And I’m wondering how I’ll get down the stairs,
    Clowns to the left of me,
    Jokers to the right, here I am,
    Stuck in the middle with you.

    Yes I’m stuck in the middle with you,
    And I’m wondering what it is I should do,
    It’s so hard to keep this smile from my face,
    Losing control, yeah, I’m all over the place,
    Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right,
    Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.

    :)

  11. 11. Jessica said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 8:08 pm

    ambull asked: and, really how do you pronounce that big word and what in the frick does it mean???

    Schadenfreude (ˈʃaːdənˌfʁɔʏ̯də ) is enjoyment taken from the misfortune of someone else. The word referring to this sentiment has been borrowed from German by the English language and is sometimes also used as a loanword by other languages. Philosopher and sociologist Theodor Adorno defined schadenfreude as “the largely unanticipated delight in the suffering of another which is cognized as trivial and/or appropriate”.

  12. 12. Jessica said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 8:10 pm

    luv2sun said: Nice post Jessica, but I would move that eyelash up your priority list. I have had an eyelash cut my cornea and it is very painful…in fact I think Jon mentioned that it happened to him during one of the episodes.

    Really? Woh.

    But I guess that proves my point even further — below an eyelash stuck in the middle of your eyeball and it’s perhaps 7 above chewing glass and a gynecological exam.

  13. 13. ambull said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 8:13 pm

    thanks jessica, gotchya!

    i just checked it out on my online dictionary :)

  14. 14. Patty said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 8:25 pm

    FANTASTIC!!! A new blog!!!

    I only watched the first few minutes and I am already disgusted!!! Kate is such a bee-och. She is just IMPOSSIBLE! She snipes at Jon, waving her arms in his face about cutting her off when she is talking, but she does the exact same thing.

    I loved how she dodged the “your kids hitting each other in the head” question. Sibling rivalry. Is that what they call it now? What a crock!

    I forget what the word was she used when they were talking about Mady. It was something-ness. I just looked at the TV and said, “where does she come up with these words?”

    Here they come again…more later.

  15. 15. txtwinmommy said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 8:59 pm

    Hey Patty,
    It was “driveness” when describing Mady. She said “Mady definetely has my driveness”. What???? Wouldn’t it just be drive? I caught that too, and seriously just have to roll my eyes!
    I almost didn’t watch tonight because the couch interviews are so boring. But I had to keep up so I could chat with y’all:)

  16. 16. momof3_MOD said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 9:21 pm

    OMG another G blog! lol Well I hope that this is a middle ground one. Im stuck in the middle with you too! LMAO! :lol:

  17. 17. Stacey S_MOD said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 9:22 pm

    Schadenfreude (ˈʃaːdənˌfʁɔʏ̯də ) is enjoyment taken from the misfortune of someone else. The word referring to this sentiment has been borrowed from German by the English language and is sometimes also used as a loanword by other languages. Philosopher and sociologist Theodor Adorno defined schadenfreude as “the largely unanticipated delight in the suffering of another which is cognized as trivial and/or appropriate”.

    It sounds like a freaken disease…I’m afraid I may be showing some symptoms! Is it contagious? Shit…I’m going to have to call out tomorrow.

  18. 18. Stacey S_MOD said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 9:23 pm

    10. Jessica said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 8:05 pm

    For you:

    Well I don’t know why I came here tonight,
    I got the feeling that something ain’t right,
    I’m so scared in case I fall off my chair,
    And I’m wondering how I’ll get down the stairs,
    Clowns to the left of me,
    Jokers to the right, here I am,
    Stuck in the middle with you.

    Yes I’m stuck in the middle with you,
    And I’m wondering what it is I should do,
    It’s so hard to keep this smile from my face,
    Losing control, yeah, I’m all over the place,
    Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right,
    Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.

    YOU ROCK!!!!!

  19. 19. momof3_MOD said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 9:42 pm

    It sounds like a freaken disease…I’m afraid I may be showing some symptoms! Is it contagious? Shit…I’m going to have to call out tomorrow.

    LMAO!!!

  20. 20. Patty said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 11:27 pm

    15. txtwinmommy said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 8:59 pm

    Hey Patty,
    It was “driveness” when describing Mady. She said “Mady definetely has my driveness”. What???? Wouldn’t it just be drive? I caught that too, and seriously just have to roll my eyes!
    I almost didn’t watch tonight because the couch interviews are so boring. But I had to keep up so I could chat with y’all:)

    THANKS, txtwinmommy!

    I just caught it again, too. “Drivenness?” Geez, I don’t even know how you would spell that!

    I think “drive” would be the more appropriate term here. She has the same drive that I do. Or she is driven like I am. But, DRIVENNESS?

    I think the show has lost its charm. It was fun in the begining, but it’s just not fun to watch anymore.

  21. 21. amber said:
    September 29, 2008 @ 11:43 pm

    you ppl should be ashamed of yourself. they are just working with what theyre given your just jealous im not anti-kate or pro-kate and its disgusting that you have time to sit here and pick them apart dispicable let me guess you are onlyl going to post comments that support your foul spirit

  22. 22. Andrea said:
    September 30, 2008 @ 9:28 am

    My sentiments exactly! ;) I enjoy watching the show. I do get a kick out of the G’s doing things (I believe purposely sometimes) to piss off their haters. Kate is the queen of beyotches and its almost refreshing to see a person on a “reality” show who doesnt pretend to be sugar and spice in front of the cameras. I do think its weird that viewers of this show think that they know everything about the family just from watching 30 minutes of their lives each week.

    OMG another G blog!

  23. 23. MomfromN.J. said:
    September 30, 2008 @ 9:28 am

    I have a question. In the picture where Kate is posing in the hospital room below the post by Jessica, there are quite a few cards on the walls. Does anyone think they have any contact anymore with all the senders of those cards? I think not. The only family -friends they have now are the crew, and this is their job. When this train wreck is finally over that crew will be out of there so fast it will make the Gosselins head spin.

  24. 24. StaceyS_MOD said:
    September 30, 2008 @ 9:54 am

    Dude…it’s like comment 21….how much “picking apart” could we have done in 21 comments? Jeeze.
    Jealous…yeah 100’s of 1,000’s of people over dozens, & dozens of blogs talking trash & nit picking over EVERY LITTLE THING! No family, no friends only hired help & TV crews. No privacy, everything is promted or “scirpted” by a production company. I’m Sooooo jealous!
    Believe it or not there are still a few people out there that aren’t willing to sell our for stuff.

  25. 25. SHS said:
    September 30, 2008 @ 11:07 am

    I don’t think just because they are “annoying” they get what they deserve…I think it goes way beyond that.

    While I was once more of an extremist in my views of Jon and Kate, I have grown a little numb to it all. Too much nitpicking.

    I don’t like Jon or Kate. They are takers.

    And while I truly enjoy watching the kids grow up, I feel sorry for them. Especially Mady. And I have to agree, we will most likely see a couple of the kids end up in a tragic situation.

    It is what it is, and quite frankly I have more important things to do than write letters to sponsers.

  26. 26. CarolAnn said:
    September 30, 2008 @ 11:53 am

    Jon and Kate are just the “by-product” if you will of a reality TV show…the kids are really the only reason 99% of the people watch it IMO the other 1% watch to see what kind of spectacle their parents are gonna make of themselves.

    Unfortunately at the time when I’d really like to see them doing reality TV is when they all become TEENAGERS but I’m sure they won’t be on tv that long! You think J&K yell now? The teenage years will be like a shot heard around the world..lol

  27. 27. Lillyann said:
    September 30, 2008 @ 11:55 am

    Yeah, too much nitpicking for me as well.

    IMO, things have gotten out of hand. I personally don’t care if they renewed their marriage vows in Hawaii and who paid for what, nor do I care about Kate’s wedding dress or what Jon wore.

  28. 28. iowafan said:
    September 30, 2008 @ 4:54 pm

    Congratulations on a new blog, Jessica!

  29. 29. Em's mom said:
    September 30, 2008 @ 5:04 pm

    Amen, Mully. She is, without a doubt, a piece of work. And it really does not matter what she reads about herself..she is so self-absorbed and out to get what she can..it really would not occur to her to consider what others have to say.Unfortunatley these kids will pay the price. There are people in this world who have no regard for anything or anyone, and she is a prime example. She deserves nothing more than ANY mother deserves. These kids, however, deserve so much more than this self-centered “mommy” will ever be able to give them.And of course it will continue..for people like her, there will never be enough. Gags me.

  30. 30. Angelica said:
    September 30, 2008 @ 7:55 pm

    I think the internet politics of the show has became more interesting than the show itself. It’s taken on a life of its own. :)

  31. 31. iowafan said:
    September 30, 2008 @ 8:17 pm

    Anjelica–that is SO true! I hardly ever see the show anymore, but I love to read the blogs on this sight..

  32. 32. Lillyann said:
    September 30, 2008 @ 8:27 pm

    Angelica, isn’t that the truth! What a study in human nature!

    Hope you’re having a good evening :) Waving, Iowafan:)

  33. 33. Sassa Frass said:
    October 1, 2008 @ 7:52 am

    Yeah Jessica! Congrats on your new blog! I love it. And, i am, now, stuck in the middle as well. Im not one of those who doesn’t see that they do anything right, but im not one of those who doesn’t see the wrong that they do. Does that make sense?

    Im stuck in the middle with you, yes im, stuck in the middle with you!

    I love it Jessica. You are such an awesome writer. I find that some writers (not on this website btw, love em all) go on and on and on in search of description of the situation and that bores me. I just want them to get to the point. But YOU JESSICA, keep my attention every time and i read the entire thing, without skimming! So, it’s a compliment. Carry on with the goods, k?

    Thanks for your point of view. I love it! Happy Wednesday.

  34. 34. Lillyann said:
    October 1, 2008 @ 9:26 am

    Good morning, Sass and everyone :) This is a great blog, isn’t it!

    Only downside is that I’ve had that darn song in my head since Jessica posted it, LOL :)

    Yeah, J&K certainly aren’t perfect, but who is! When I watch, I watch to see the kids and what they are up to.

    Happy Day, to all :)

  35. 35. Kymberly said:
    October 1, 2008 @ 9:41 am

    See, I’m not that easily amused or smitten by children just because they’re children, and the Gosselin rug-(b)rats are no exception. Half the time, I think they’re annoying, but they’re kids, and kids are annoying, so I can’t necessarily hold that against them as unique.

    Words to live by my friend. :) A wise and brave post. Also loved the People magazine line because I’m not above it either. I do find the show helpful in that my 9 yo daughter (who may, in fact, be the intended target audience?) adores it even as she routinely says “Man that Maddie (or Cara) really needs to get in trouble!” So I like that even my CHILD can identify when her generational fellows are showing their a@# to the nation, identify it as very unbecoming, and think to herself “let’s not try that at home.”

    Why, it’s practically a public service some days!

    Note to self: try to work J&K+8 into more of my writing as it seems a handy way to generate comments.

    I think I could blog “I have cured cancer!” and get less fanfare than if anyone breathes a word about the Gosselins.

    Seriously, do they have a spider or webbot going that picks up on any hint of dissent the very moment it hits the world wide web and rushes there or what?

    (Said in the tone of “where the he@# do I get that gig?) >:)

  36. 36. Elsa said:
    October 1, 2008 @ 12:06 pm

    Amber, you say that the Gosselins are “taking what they are given” … I say that they are taking what they can get.

    Complete scam artists, preying on trusting people. I feel sorry for their children.

  37. 37. Patty said:
    October 1, 2008 @ 10:54 pm

    Don’t forget…

    Mady & Cara’s 8th birthday is one week from today. They turn 8 on the 8th. It’s their “golden” birthday. Gee, I hope they’re allowed to eat their birthday cake!

    I am going to send them each a birthday card. They need to feel special, too.

  38. 38. John said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 1:54 am

    Hello- I made a comment that if Kate got free tummy surgury, then Jon should get free hair surgery- it happened the next episode…
    I see they are now moving to a new house-
    They are scam artists capitalizing on the fact that they had sextuplets–
    I have stopped watching/tivo’ing their show–
    The most disturbing part is that you can see how controling, disfunctional, and somehow mentally incompetant this Kate is,
    and anyone with a brain can already see the problems starting with the “twins”, especially Mady. I know ALOT about multiples, AND
    the WORST thing that a parent can do when it comes to any sort of multiples is to tell the children that they are first or fourth.
    Until they are in their late teens, they should be EQUAL in “birth time”,not “Oh you are 4 minutes older, etc…” You can already see the confrontations between cara & mady- it should NEVER have happened- Jon should RUN as fast as he can from this unballanced woman, make good money and let them play in the mud in HIS yard on the weekends, and God willing, the 6 wont end up on crack or pregnant at 15– face it, you can already see the train wreck coming for the “twins”—

  39. 39. ssppmom said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 2:42 am

    You are a brave soul Jessica. Wait till the Katebots come out and dismiss you as a hater or jealous or both.

    What I don’t like about Kate?

    She makes it seems so easy. But she forgets she had all the volunteers that gave so much - time, money, clothes, etc.

    She takes vacations and does fun things with her kids - but she says she “saves” and every thing is a rare “treat”.

    I feel bad for the Mothers that think she is SuperMom and “inspiring”.

    Proctor and Gamble featured Kate in last Sunday’s circular on her “saving” tips - as if she really does any of things she advocates.

    A paper in St. Louis featured her “recipes” a few weeks back. Imagine! Kate cuts her kids’ sandwiches into shapes!

    Really ground breaking stuff. She truly is a maverick.

  40. 40. Ems mom said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 3:53 am

    John, I agree. Hope all of the freebies and “fame” are worth it to these parents, because it is a sure bet that the kids will pay the price.

  41. 41. Ephesians 2:10 said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 8:45 am

    Jessica said: In all their “riches”, what have the Gosselins ever given back to society?

    We’re going to see just that in an upcoming episode. They recently had a yard sale at a church and donated the money to pediatric cancer research.

    Whether or not they sold things things that were donated to them or things they bought, pediatric cancer research is being helped.

  42. 42. Ephesians 2:10 said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 8:51 am

    Very well written. I love your sense of humor.

    I hope and pray the kids don’t turn out like Danny Bonaduce or Dana Plato. Only time will tell.

  43. 43. Kim Lambe said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 10:44 am

    Hello to you both and six more

    you are both very brave. Just keep up the great work and remember god gave you this wonder because he knew you could handle it….

  44. 44. Angelica said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 1:16 pm

    Ephesians,

    Hi, good to see you!

    Their website also says that they are donating a portion of the proceeds to pediatric cancer research.

  45. 45. mully said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 1:52 pm

    Whether or not they sold things things that were donated to them or things they bought, pediatric cancer research is being helped.

    And for sure Jon and Kate were trying to benefit from it.

  46. 46. Lillyann said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 6:42 pm

    Hey Ephesians, nice to see you! :) Patty posted on the other blog that the G’s are going to be on Regis and Kelly tomorrow morning! I haven’t seen a promo for it, so don’t know any details.

  47. 47. Ephesians 2:10 said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 6:53 pm

    Nice to see you too Lillyann. And you too Angelica.

    I’m planning on watching in the morning. Maybe I’ll DVR it and skip the commercials.

  48. 48. Lillyann said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 7:32 pm

    LOL, that’s a great idea Ephesians :) I just may do the same thing!

    I’ve been thinking about this yard sale and all the talk it has generated. It seems to me that the G’s are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. So what if they *sold* items that were donated to them…they did donate all the proceeds to charity. That’s a good thing! Actually, who the heck knows for sure if everything that was for sale was only stuff that they had been given. Maybe they actually paid for some of the things. Either way, IMO it doesn’t matter and because of the sale, children less fortunate then their own benefit from the donation. Anyway, just my thoughts :)

    I think I will enjoy this episode more than some of the others.

  49. 49. mully said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 7:55 pm

    Hi Lilly:

    I think its great too that the G’s donated the money from the yard sale to charity.

    I think that the irksome thing is that they just HAD to make a point of telling the whole world about it on their website with the statement about donating 100% of the profits. Like I said a day or so ago, I got the impression they were making sure everyone knew that yes indeed, they are FINALLY giving back. To me it smacks of damage control and I do believe they have to know (either they themselves or someone at TLC) that they need the damage control.

    It kinda took the humility out of the donation for me.

  50. 50. Ephesians 2:10 said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 8:02 pm

    I agree Lillyann. Either way they go with the donations, they can’t win. I’m looking foward to it too. To me it doesn’t matter if they bought the things or if they were donated. The things were theirs to sell.

    I saw a picture of Kate and a girl that the girls mother took at the sale. It was sweet. The girl looked happy.

  51. 51. Lillyann said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 10:09 pm

    Mully :) Hold that thought, LOL! I am watching the *debate* after the VP *debate* but would like to discuss the PR issue with you.
    Hopefully, I’ll catch you tomorrow.

  52. 52. mully said:
    October 2, 2008 @ 11:39 pm

    Mully holds the thought but wants Lilly to know that she leaves for work at around 9 am EST and wont be home until probably after sixish…..So, Ill hold it for a loooong time!

  53. 53. Angelica said:
    October 3, 2008 @ 12:21 am

    I’ve sold things before that were given to me and kept the money (Sorry, Aunt Jane) so I absolutely have no problem with her doing it and giving the money to charity. People have been demanding that they do so for quite some time now. It’s true that no good deed goes unpunished. Danged if they do and danged if they don’t.

    I think it is great that they have picked out a charity to support. Is it for damage control? So what. Or maybe it’s just a cause close to their hearts. I hope it brings a lot attention to the charity.

    Other than that, their financial situation is none of my business; it’s between them, God and the IRS. If they are doing wrong, one of those will certainly sort it out. :)

  54. 54. mully said:
    October 3, 2008 @ 6:13 pm

    Their financial situation isnt so much what people care about Angelica. Its HOW they make the money they do make which is such an irritant to most people and the fact that Kate has continually cried “poor” and seemingly, in order, to be given donations, free trips, closed parks for THEIR visits and etc etc etc.

    Again. If Jon and Kate, all along since the moment they started receiving donation after donation, had offered items that they could no longer use to charity, ANY charity, then the donation to the Children’s Pediatric Cancer Fund, wouldnt seem so much of a PR idea. The fact is tho, that here we are, 4 years later and they are just now getting around to making a BIG deal on their website about how much they donated and to whom. It all seems like an afterthought, AFTER they or someone else said “hey guys, the heat is on about how you never donate to charity, its probably a good idea that we do SOMETHING to try and alleviate all the bad press you are getting”

  55. 55. Jessica said:
    October 3, 2008 @ 8:08 pm

    I’m not going to judge J&K for selling their own belongings, regardless of how they got ‘em, especially given that the proceeds will be going to a very worthy cause. It kinda reconciles some of the taint of its procurement, however, the cynical part of me can’t help but feel that it’s all part of a crafted script and/or producers suggestion. But I would think that of any reality show because I’m skeptical like that.
  56. 56. Stacey Maureen said:
    October 7, 2008 @ 11:43 am

    The show last night cracked me up! They act like Good Housekeeping was just dying to get them on the cover. Chances are, most people don’t know who these freaks even are!! The kids are just brats–no, not really the tups but the twins!! I can’t stand that Mady. I want to reach through the TV and slap her. How old are they now? 8 or something? Stop trying to compete with a 4 year old and act your age. I really love that these two people are using their kids to make money. Jon, go get a job. Stop profiting off of your kids. It is shameless.

  57. 57. Valerie said:
    October 7, 2008 @ 3:13 pm

    They are both profiting off their kids. It doesn’t bother me that they are financially well off or anyone else for that matter. It is why they are that really irks me. They are using those children to get as much as they can get and it is sickening. Yes, a family of 8 with 6 the same age do need help to provide for the family. Usually one of the parents would need to work to earn that money. They don’t need EXTRAVAGANT vacations, teeth whitenings, hair transplants, personal trainers at the gym, spa days. I could go on and on. How are those things benefiting the children.

  58. 58. stacey maureen said:
    October 7, 2008 @ 3:27 pm

    Clearly everything is for the parents and not the well-being of the kids. Honestly, does a 4 year old know that they are on the cover of a magazine? Do they care?? I like how Kate said this is their “first cover” (hmmm, does she have visions of more to come??) and that she is happy to “get their story out there”. What story? You were selfish, decided to go ahead and have these 6 kids and now you want people to give you money and things so you can be comfy and your lazy-ass hubby doesn’t have to work but can sit in a closet all day and read email?? And I feel SO sorry for them–their first floor of their house is ONLY 2000 square feet! Those poor people! It must be like living in a shoe-box!! Give me a BREAK!!! I Tivo’d this and erased half of it as I was watching. Then I cleared Tivo and won’t be watching anymore episodes. I am done. They are sickening. Unfortunately I have a subscription to Good Housekeeping. Bummer that I will have to see them on the Nov. cover.

  59. 59. Patty said:
    October 9, 2008 @ 12:27 pm

    Has anyone else seen Kate’s interview on ABC’s “What’s the Buzz?” Looks like it was a plug for K-Mart, too, since she mentioned them a couple times during her interview and all the K-Mart products surrounding her in the chair.

  60. 60. mully said:
    October 9, 2008 @ 5:49 pm

    I havent seen it Patty, but I did happen to see the show earlier this week you mentioned from Minnesota where she was giving “tips” on how to save money in the upcoming Christmas season.

    Kate seems to be making herself available alot lately.

    Makes you wonder when she finds the time to parent all those kids AND to make monkey munch AND to bitch at her husband AND to buy organic food etc etc etc

  61. 61. Patty said:
    October 9, 2008 @ 7:08 pm

    60. mully said:
    October 9, 2008 @ 5:49 pm

    I havent seen it Patty, but I did happen to see the show earlier this week you mentioned from Minnesota where she was giving “tips” on how to save money in the upcoming Christmas season.

    Kate seems to be making herself available alot lately.

    Makes you wonder when she finds the time to parent all those kids AND to make monkey munch AND to bitch at her husband AND to buy organic food etc etc etc

    Hey, Mully!

    Don’t forget to add a 75-minute workout to Kate’s busy day!

  62. 62. mully said:
    October 9, 2008 @ 8:02 pm

    Oh gosh! Youre right!

    And I completely forgot (smacks self on forehead) about the hour and fifteen minute workout on her treadmill every morning!

  63. 63. Zoe said:
    October 10, 2008 @ 2:03 am

    Well, the fact that they eat organic food is all the proof you need that these people are loaded. I’m a health food eater (not necessarily by choice, but rather medical reasons) and live on an organic diet. I can tell you, it’s EXPENSIVE. Literally costs 3-4 times as much as non-organic, so if these people are eating organic daily, imagine what those bills look like. Think about it. In any event, I think parents encouraging their families to go organic is setting a great example. But it ain’t cheap, let me tell you.

  64. 64. Stacey Maureen said:
    October 10, 2008 @ 7:30 am

    It just seems to me that now Jon and Kate do a lot of stuff to promote a certain “image” of their family. A lot of what they do are contradicitons. If she was such a clean freak, there is no way she would leave pee to freeze in the van potties or leave it all over the house! I don’t think she had a lot growing up–she made mention of certain things in different episodes. So she is trying to give her kids everything but also give herself everything. I think she wants viewers to think her family is upper class. That is not the impression I get. She is pretty much a poser as far as I am concerned.

  65. 65. mully said:
    October 10, 2008 @ 8:18 am

    I couldnt agree more with you Stacey. I have always felt that Kate didnt come from a family where there was alot of extras. Now before any of you jump down my throat about saying that, all I meant is that she exhibits characteristics of someone trying to escape her past.

    The very fact that it doesnt seem to bother her one iota that she has no ties with her immediate family, says alot. I think Kate acts fairly low class and class is something you either have or you dont have and usually its something you grow up with.

    She does alot to try and make the public THINK shes a classy lady with an even classier husband and lifestyle. I guess if I were making the kind of bucks shes making, I would too. But true class isnt bought…its an attitude, a certain way of conducting yourself and Kate definitely doesnt have that.

    As far as the organic crap goes. Shes about as organic as I am. When it suits her and the camera is rolling, shes organic. Which is pretty much the way I see Kate on most things.

  66. 66. Nana said:
    October 11, 2008 @ 3:02 am

    Jon & Kate are con artist who have milked the system, church & friends for all they could and when that ran out they sent in tapes and found a production company willing to make money off the backs of their children. They don’t deserve to be parents and these children are being exploited by their own parents. They need a good lawyer to represent the children and file suit against TLC and the parents. Hey wait this could be another reality show….”The Gousselin 8 in court against KATE”.

  67. 67. Stacey Maureen said:
    October 15, 2008 @ 8:42 am

    Does anyone know why the kids are going to preschool over an hour away from the house? Did they mention why it is so far? Are they living that far in the boonies or did the kids get free tuition to this school? My bet is that the school is free and that is why they are carting these kids there everyday. Ridiculous! Why stress yourselves even more? How selfish are these 2 parents anyway???

  68. 68. Ephesians 2:10 said:
    October 15, 2008 @ 8:49 am

    J&K want the tups to have the same preschool teacher as Mady & Cara and they’re willing to make sacrifices to get them there. The preschool is near their old home. IIRC it’s associated with the church they attend, which is an hour away.

  69. 69. Stacey Maureen said:
    October 15, 2008 @ 8:52 am

    Ok-than they are going to have a mighty long commute if they move to Carolina! Maybe they can get someone to donate a plane and they can fly the kids there everyday.

  70. 70. Ephesians 2:10 said:
    October 15, 2008 @ 8:56 am

    Since their house is being built it probably won’t be ready until summer. They’ll be 5 in May and ready for kindgergarten in the fall so maybe they’ll start K in NC. This seems to be a one school-year session.

  71. 71. Mature said:
    October 17, 2008 @ 12:35 am

    Grow up! I’d like to see you raise 8 children under the age of 8…

  72. 72. Stacey Maureen said:
    October 17, 2008 @ 8:07 am

    I’m sure Jon and Kate aren’t the ONLY ONES raising 8 kids under the age of 8! But you don’t see these other people on TV, pimping out their family to make a buck. And I am sure the DAD of these families has a real job–not just shuttle busing the kids to preschool and hour away and sitting at home looking forward to naptime so he can check his email!! How is keeping this show on TV good for the family? Kate has admitted that it is hard for the twins–they get teased at school. Come on–when you were 8 yrs old would you want your parents on TV discussing what a bad kid you were and how difficult of a child you are? I can only imagine what will happen if this show stays on the air for a few more years. Will Kare be disclosing when the girls get their first period? Hmmm, that would be an interesting show! I am sure the kids at school would LOVE to know when that happens. How sad for these kids that don’t have a choice in the matter–if they want to be taped or not. It just shows that parents DON’T know best–and these 2 parents have proved it over and over again.

  73. 73. mully said:
    October 17, 2008 @ 8:09 am

    LOL..and YOUR name is Mature?

  74. 74. Lynn said:
    October 17, 2008 @ 3:21 pm

    After watching a couple of seasons of J&K Plus 8, I am now a member of the “KIA” group. I stopped watching because I could not watch Kate treat her husband like a dog anymore, and him just sit there and take it.
    *Edited by Site Owner for blatant spam

  75. 75. lisad said:
    October 18, 2008 @ 5:40 am

    just a note not sure if it was mentioned b4,
    but kate was diagnosed with polycystic ovaries , which her gp would of referred her on to a fertility doctor even if she had only been trying to fall pregnant a few months.
    when i was diagnosed i was referred that day and it was only 6 weeks after i went off my pill.

  76. 76. debbie said:
    October 19, 2008 @ 9:38 am

    I love John and Kate plus 8..I don t have children,so I enjoy every minute of watching THE FAMILY and soooo happy I have no kid responsibilities…More power to them if they can get a tv show to fund them and tell this Paul dude to get a life and leave John and Kate alone and worry about who is going to run our country,NOT if the Gosselin kids are being exploited..Doubt they are

  77. 77. mully said:
    October 19, 2008 @ 11:13 am

    You are certainly entitled to your opinion, Debbie..but to say that the Gosselin children arent being exploited is the same as saying humans dont need water to survive.

    These children are most certainly being exploited. They are 4 years old for gods sake! Open your eyes! How can children of that age, with their entire lives at this point being subjected to cameras and crewmen in their home filming every move they make, NOT be exploitive?

    They have no say, no choice in this and sooner or later, as evidenced by both Mady and Cara’s behaviors, the tups will also begin to realize how grossly abnormal this fishbowl they live in, really is.

    You can like Jon and Kate all you wish, but dont be fooled into thinking that this is for the good of those children. This show is for the good of the parents and their bank balances. Pure and simple.
    To assume anything else is to be wearing blinders.

  78. 78. Ems mom said:
    October 20, 2008 @ 1:02 pm

    You are absolutely right that this show has NOTHING to do with what is good for these kids. These are 2 of the biggest gimmies I have ever seen. And it is laughable that there are still people who buy their “act”. She is self-absorbed, dishonest and mean. He, in my opinion, is just as bad. He is also very childish. It annoys me on so many levels that there are people like this raising kids.What annoys me more is that really, as long as the gravy train keeps rolling, they could care less what people think. The lame attempts at “damage control” are a joke. Of course, just my opinion.

  79. 79. tabitha said:
    October 20, 2008 @ 3:37 pm

    I think that jon and kate are great but nobodys perfect. Unless you think you are cause no one is. Kate give 110% JOn gives 140%. They are great parents. If you cant say anything nice dont say anything at all Thank and I am that biggest fan so booyah

  80. 80. Stacey Maureen said:
    October 20, 2008 @ 3:45 pm

    Oh, I didn’t realize that this blog was ONLY for people who had nice things to say about Jon and Kate!! I like to read everyone’s opinion about this show–good and bad. I can’t stand these people that come to this blog and say “if you don’t like them, don’t write anything mean, etc”. First of all, how old are these people? Or do they just have a very simple mentality?

    I think Jon and Kate are HORRIBLE parents b/c they allow their children to be exploited on TV and collect a paycheck off of their backs!! The reason Mady is so out of control is probably b/c she can’t stand the TV cameras in the house! What 8 year old wants to be taped all the time? I don’t care if it is only a few times a week that the camera crew is there taping. That is a few times too many! Let these kids grow up in a normal household–not one with cameramen, scripts, etc. It really is a disgrace.

    And I feel bad for Aunt Jodi. Looks like that side of the family is totally cut out of their lives. Do other people think this is normal? Not to speak to your parents, sisters, brothers, etc? That says something about Jon and Kate–obviously people close to them don’t thnk they are doing the right thing by these kids. When is this show going to end?!?!!?!?

  81. 81. Em's mom said:
    October 20, 2008 @ 4:39 pm

    Unfortunately, no matter when it ends..and it will, the damage to their children is done. I could care less about Jon and Kate, just as they could care less about anyone but themselves. And thats about as nice as I can get about THEM.

  82. 82. Terri said:
    October 21, 2008 @ 7:29 am

    You people just don’t get it. And,maybe that’s because you don’t believe in the Lord. (if you do, please read what I am going to say with an open mind and step back and think about this..They were chosen by God to receive sextuplets. This show and all that comes with it (the freebies from the sponsors) are all a part of this deal from the Lord. That’s how he is providing this family of ten to operate.

    Are there a lot of extras that you and I do not have? In the words of Sarah Palin,”you betchya!”. But, we weren’t the ones chosen to raise multiple sets of babies. Everyone is given a path of life and you make of it on your own. Jon & Kate were given this opportunity through the Lord. Who would’ve thought reality shows would be popular, or help out people in need? Well, here’s a reason for them. J&K realized that when the guy from TLC contacted them. All the pieces came together.

    Perhaps you’re perceiving Kate’s actions as greedy because you are jeaulous? Sponsors are hopping on this hot tv show like flies on dogcrap on a hot day. Why not? It’s great for their businesses. If I were Kate, I’d make sure I received all that was promised to TLC to feed or clothe the kids. It’s a part of the deal. If you have a problem with the freebies, you actually have the problem with TLC, not the Gosselins. And, there’s no way TLC is going to turn away sponsors.

    So, everybody…Get OVER IT!! J&K are doing the best they can and they know they are traveling the path of the Lord.

  83. 83. Terri said:
    October 21, 2008 @ 7:34 am

    Oh…I forgot to add….remember that we don’t see EVERYTHING on each show. The Gosselins are at the mercy of TLS editors and producers. So, a lot of stuff is on the editing floor.

  84. 84. Ems mom said:
    October 21, 2008 @ 7:39 am

    Sorry, but greed? A sin. There is grateful, there is deserving. There is greed. They chose greed.

  85. 85. Terri said:
    October 21, 2008 @ 7:40 am

    uh…TLC editors. typo

  86. 86. Terri said:
    October 21, 2008 @ 7:45 am

    Em’s Mom…open your mind. They chose what God gave them. They chose to accept all that is with this show…and that is the good (all the stuff) and all the bad (people like you and others who don’t understand and do think they are greedy). Where do you see the greed?

    J&K give back by donating clothes the kids outwear, they bring they support (use their publicity) for St. Jude’s Cancer research and another pediatric children’s hospital that escapes my mind right now. They do it because they can, that’s a direct result of the show. They’re helping people and giving back.

  87. 87. stacey maureen said:
    October 21, 2008 @ 7:47 am

    Why do these Bible Thumpers think that Jon and Kate are traveling the path of the Lord???? They are on a path–it is called the gravy train and the tups are the conductors!!

    Medical science gave these two people their babies! Now they are greedy and feel entitled and they are doing everything in their power to “provide” for them. Didn’t you know that if you take a 3 year old skiing in Utah, this would be considered neglect??? Give me a break. These 2 could have provided for their kids w/o broadcasting every last poop on TV. Now they are so far gone, there is no turning back. Kate can see what these kids can do for HER, so she is exploiting them. Jon too–he see’s that he never has to work a real job again!

  88. 88. Ems mom said:
    October 21, 2008 @ 7:56 am

    With all due respect…they chose where they are and they continue to choose “stuff” over family. Really, maybe they need to remind each other that “The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away”. They are greedy and put their wants over what is best for their kids. Otherwise, they would call it a “wrap” and go about the business of raising their kids like the rest of us. Again, with all due respect, please do not make the mistake of thinking these 2 are giving back. Every now and then they make a half-hearted show of “good will”.

  89. 89. Ana said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 11:38 am

    I see Kate when she acts, how she talks to her husband, kids, and sorry, but I don´t see God anywhere near her.

  90. 90. d said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 1:04 pm

    Grow up. People do far worse to thier children .Really.

  91. 91. d said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 1:08 pm

    They are great people…They are real no fake show boats….There is real love in this family..

  92. 92. mully said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 1:26 pm

    87. stacey maureen said:
    October 21, 2008 @ 7:47 am

    Why do these Bible Thumpers think that Jon and Kate are traveling the path of the Lord???? They are on a path–it is called the gravy train and the tups are the conductors!!

    LOL! I couldnt have said it better myself..I am soooo sick to death of the Bible thumper mentality and for all the reasons and many more, mentioned NUMEROUS times on all of the J/K blogs.

    God helps those who help themselves…so far I havent seen Jon and Kate doing too much to help themselves unless its to say YES YES YES! to designer clothing and hair transplants and trips to Disneyland and trips to Utah and tummy tucks and I could go on ad nauseum, but I wont because Im sick to death of people making this somehow a GODLY thing they have done!

    So far Ive only seen them say NO to freebies offered by God fearing Church members who offered them (Hmmm..God working thru them here)items to use from the love in their hearts and oh! dont forget theyve said NO! to family members who, no doubt, love and care for those 8 children, but since those family members simply dont fit into Kate’s idea of how they should behave or act, they are no longer welcome in Kates God fearing, God loving heart.

    Get real that this show and Kate and Jon is all about God’s choices.

  93. 93. Lillyann said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 1:42 pm

    87. stacey maureen said:
    October 21, 2008 @ 7:47 am

    Didn’t you know that if you take a 3 year old skiing in Utah, this would be considered neglect???

    stacey, why would that be considered neglect?

  94. 94. Valerie said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 2:04 pm

    Terri

    Sorry I have to disagree. J&K are GREEDY!!!! There is no other word for it. They don’t donate hand me downs. They sell them in yard sales. They give to St. Jude’s?? - Well, so do I, and St Jude’s doesn’t need them for publicity. I have been giving to them for many, many years. I think that the Danny and Marlo Thomas name is more than enough.

    You keep referring to God. Well, God gave everyone free will and the choice to do what is right. I wonder if God is happy with them right now for the choices they are making????? They are not struggling any more. What they are receiving now is above and beyond and don’t tell me that they are continuing so that they can give back. Alot of drug dealers and criminals are living the good life too. What does that mean. Alot of good decent people are living paycheck to paycheck, going hungry, trying to keep a roof over their heads. How does that fit into your way of thinking.

  95. 95. Valerie said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 3:16 pm

    Terri

    I will believe that Jon and Kate are giving back when I see them actually donating bags full of out- grown clothing to St. Vincent De Paul, or the veterans or any thrift shop where the proceeds go to charity. I will believe it when I see one of them volunteering their time to a good cause. So many people have donated to them both in time and money and gifts and trips. How about it Gosslins show us how appreciative you really are and give your time to others in need.

    Have any of their children ever worn hand-me-downs. I doubt it. Kate would never accept such things.

    All I can say is - What goes around comes around.

  96. 96. Patty said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 3:44 pm

    95. Valerie said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 3:16 pm

    Terri

    I will believe that Jon and Kate are giving back when I see them actually donating bags full of out- grown clothing to St. Vincent De Paul, or the veterans or any thrift shop where the proceeds go to charity. I will believe it when I see one of them volunteering their time to a good cause. So many people have donated to them both in time and money and gifts and trips. How about it Gosslins show us how appreciative you really are and give your time to others in need.

    Have any of their children ever worn hand-me-downs. I doubt it. Kate would never accept such things.

    All I can say is - What goes around comes around.

    Some time ago, I posted a thought on one of the other blogs.

    There was one J&K episode that Kate said they have way too many toys in their house.

    In the spirit of giving (and giving back), I suggested to TLC that they do an episode showing the kids helping to clean out the toys, stuffed animals, games, etc. they don’t use anymore.

    The way I suggested this be done was for TLC/Figure 8 to make it an epidsode showing them sorting out what they want to keep and what is to be given away.

    Since they are always saying they are blessed, grateful, appreciative, etc. to Hershey Medical Center, I thought it would make a great episode to:
    1. Show the kids Christmas wrapping the things they want to give away, labeling them “boy” or “girl.”

    2. Dress the Gosselin kids similar to how they looked on the GH cover, except use red jumpers/sweaters, white turtlenecks, and black shoes with little Santa hats. It would be cute, too, to find a red sack they could each put a few gifts in and carry them to the kids in the hospital.

    3. Set it up in advance with Hershey for the Gosselins/TLC/Figure 8 to sponsor a Christmas party for the staff of the pediatric unit, the kids who are sick in the pediatric ward, and the families of the kids who are sick. I’m talking a decorated tree and all appropriate Christmas decorating, frozen Santa Claus or Christmas tree treats, christmas cookies, punch, etc.

    4. They could go from room to room, sing a carol, and pass out gifts from their sacks. OR, if the kids aren’t too sick, they could set it up in a lounge area.

    What sick kid in the hospital on Christmas wouldn’t love to get some fun toys to play with? And, can’t you see little smiley Leah walking up to a child, handing them a present from her sack, helping them open it?

    Now, THAT would make a GREAT episode for a number of different reasons.
    1. It would do a little “damage control.”
    2. It would show that the Gosselins really can give back and show appreciation for the blessings they received in the past.
    3. It would also teach their children to be selfless, and about the importance of giving to others who are less fortunate than yourself.

    4. It would make the sick kids happy.

    One thing I forgot to mention was if the kids have a meltdown about giving up their toys. If Jon & Kate handle the situation appropriately:

    1. They’ll tell them about the sick kids in the hospital who won’t get to be in their own homes on Christmas, and how it will make them happy to have some toys to play with in the hospital.

    2. They’ll tell them that if they cooperate, clean out the old toys, give them away, that they can get some new toys for themselves. That will EMPOWER the children to want to do this, knowing they, too, will be rewarded in the end.

    Isn’t all about the joy of giving and not receiving?

    Wouldn’t that make a great episode? What d’ya think?

  97. 97. Valerie said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 3:55 pm

    Absolutely great idea. Too bad that Jon or Kate didn’t think of it.

    I remember when I was in 8th grade a group of us went to a local hospital around Christmas time and gave out gifts and cupcakes to the children. It was so sad to see these little ones sick in the hospital, but they were so happy on that day and it brought all of us great joy. Yes, giving is better than receiving.

  98. 98. Stacey S_MOD said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 4:03 pm

    Hey Terry…I was offered Pot the other day…and I declined…it’s called having choices…things are offered to us every day… that doesn’t necessarily mean we have to take them or that any of these things is some sort of divine plan.
    Even if I entertained your theory…maybe it was God who was throwing all that money in their laps as a true test of faith…& what they should’ve done was turned away from all the fame & riches & turned to their friends & family (or her father’s congregation who offered all sorts of donations that she turned down) for strength, love, & support.
    Now instead of having friends & family they have a film crew, hired staff, & a big fat bank account.
    And for the record…I am not jealous….my friends & family are worth more to me then all the riches in the world!

  99. 99. Patty said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 4:08 pm

    97. Valerie said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 3:55 pm

    Absolutely great idea. Too bad that Jon or Kate didn’t think of it.

    Don’t kid yourself…if TLC actually does run with an episode like this, you can be sure Kate will be “front and center” spewing dribble about how they are so grateful, wanted to give something back, mlah mlah mlah. They’ll make sure it looks like it was all Jon & Kate’s idea.

    I really do hope they make an episode like this. It would be nice to see, instead of watching them pack for a free trip to a vacation mansion someplace, freebies and all.

    Somebody els mentioned this earlier. I think it would be a breat idea. They could offer up one of their trips in a “Make-A-Wish” sort of way. Although, they’d probably be criticized for only doing it for one family and not more. I don’t know. I suppose they could consult with Make-A-Wish to determine the recipient. I think that, too, would be a nice “damage control” gesture on their parts.

    If somebody really does read these blogs for them, it will be interesting to see how much of what suggest actually materializes, right?

  100. 100. Valerie said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 4:19 pm

    That was me with the Make A Wish thought.
    You’re probably right though. I just meant that some of these big deals who offer everything to J&K should skip over them once in awhile and offer it to people who really need and deserve it. The only reason given for them being invited to the ballgame was because the owner’s wife loves the show. I’ll bet she just figured on being on their show and gaining some celebrity herself.

  101. 101. Stacey Maureen said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 5:57 pm

    Whoops–I meant to say “Didn’t you know if you DIDN’T take your 3 year old skiing in Utah, this would be considered neglect”!! I was being sarcastic but left out a word. I appreciate that Kate wants to give the kids everything that she didn’t have as a kid but give me a break. Why cram everything in now? Because it is FREE and being offered to you on a silver platter! That is why I think they are so greedy. It’s like they can’t turn anything down! The baseball game was a joke. Did the kids even know what was going on? Fine–bring them but then when they are getting showered w/ gifts, etc and they can’t even say thank you, there is a problem. Those kids should be grateful for everything handed to them and it seems like the whole family just expects stuff now.

  102. 102. Lillyann said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 6:07 pm

    Thanks for explaining, Stacey Maureen :)

  103. 103. mully said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 6:14 pm

    98. Stacey S_MOD said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 4:03 pm

    Hey Terry…I was offered Pot the other day…and I declined…it’s called having choices…things are offered to us every day… that doesn’t necessarily mean we have to take them or that any of these things is some sort of divine plan.
    Even if I entertained your theory…maybe it was God who was throwing all that money in their laps as a true test of faith…& what they should’ve done was turned away from all the fame & riches & turned to their friends & family (or her father’s congregation who offered all sorts of donations that she turned down) for strength, love, & support.
    Now instead of having friends & family they have a film crew, hired staff, & a big fat bank account.
    And for the record…I am not jealous….my friends & family are worth more to me then all the riches in the world!

    VERY well said Stacey, especially the last sentence.

    I am so sick and tired of being called jealous because I dont like the lifestyle and the choices these 2 selfish people have made.

    If I HAD the choice to make, I would NEVER sell my kids to the highest bidder the way Kate and Jon have done in the name of the almighty dollar.

    This isnt God-like at all Terri and to preach that it is, is an insult to people who DO believe in God.

  104. 104. Stacey S_MOD said:
    October 23, 2008 @ 7:25 pm

    Hell Mully..it’s an insult to people who DON’T believe in God! LOL

  105. 105. Margaret said:
    October 24, 2008 @ 2:35 am

    I don’t get it! I have read 4 pages of comments; most are beyond negative. Several seem like middle school or high school gossips.
    I am 65+, parent of 3 adults, and a retired teacher. I have seen a few episodes in which they offered a brief grace or talked about getting dressed for church. What is all the carrying on about them being Bible thumpers? If this is something in tapes or other materials they have produced, why would anyone who dislikes this family so much spend a dime on their stuff? If you don’t like them, change the station, go rake leaves, visit a nursing home, or go for
    a walk.

  106. 106. Jennifer said:
    October 24, 2008 @ 10:45 am

    I find this family to be very real and down to earth. Their life is hectic and its on television. Its not like those other reality shows that are scripted and edited. This is a real family of 10 people. This show has given them the opportunity to do things with their kids, they probably wouldn’t ever be doing because of money restraints. They do receive freebies but if you were in their shoes, do you think you wouldn’t accept? Come on… :)

  107. 107. Em's mom said:
    October 24, 2008 @ 10:58 am

    Well, isn’t it true of most who raise famalies that they just can’t have or do all that they may want to? I guess for me, it comes down to motivation, and why they do what they do.Instead of a show that demonstrates the difficulties, AND blesings, of raising a large family, what I see are two people who go on the air each week so that we can all watch what they GET and where they GO. I just see greed. And if you look carefully, these kids look miserable most of the time. I guess as long as mom and dad are getting what they want, the kids just have to deal with it. They need privacy in their own home, don’t you think???

  108. 108. Jenine said:
    October 24, 2008 @ 10:46 pm

    Jon & Kate I wonder what they think about all of this stuff being written about them I guess if your gonna be on t.v. this is what you have to deal with!!!!

  109. 109. Valerie said:
    October 25, 2008 @ 7:31 pm

    Margaret I don’t think anyone accused the Gosselins of being Bible thumpers. I think they were referring to one of the posters. If you go back and read all the comments starting with someone named Terry, you will see.

    I, for one don’t buy any of their stuff. I like their show, but I don’t like them. I watch it mainly because the kids are adorable and I can’t believe what is going on in that family. It just amazes me how much they are still being given. They have more than enough now.
    They are not struggling any longer. Why are they continuing to be so greedy???????

    By the way, I graduated from High School many years ago. In fact I graduated from College many years ago. I’ve been married for 33 yrs and have adult children also. I, however am still working. What’s your point. Have you outgrown gossiping? I doubt it. Most of the posters on these blogs are having intelligent discussions and most of us backup our reasons for not liking Jon and Kate. It seems that those who do not agree with us simply make fun of us, but never tell us why they disagree.

  110. 110. Valerie said:
    October 25, 2008 @ 7:45 pm

    Em’s Mom You are absolutely right. All those kids are going to become so spoiled. They are going to grow up expecting anything they want.

  111. 111. nacheyes said:
    October 26, 2008 @ 12:44 am

    Resp. Em mom I do believe all these kids will expect things handed to them on a silver platter. Television and all the fact that they get so much from sponsors have spoiled them. When the show stops and the camera crew disappears, what will happen to them? They will be just like all small chid stars. They will be lonely and confused because they will no longer feel important, interesting, and loved. Sometimes fame and fortune come wth a price. I hope J@K save some of that money for their therapy that they all will need.

  112. 112. mully said:
    October 26, 2008 @ 9:53 am

    Im hoping that one of the idiots at TLC and above have had enough sense to encourage a child psychologist RIGHT NOW to help those kids thru the adjustments they are living thru. Most especially Cara and Mady who seem most affected. Especially, lately, Cara.

  113. 113. Em's mom said:
    October 26, 2008 @ 2:16 pm

    nachyes, they will grow up to expect to receive all that they want. The sad thing about that is that there will never be enough. I mean, look at their parents. They just grab more, and it is not enough. And if they were putting their children first they would have shut this down long ago. I don’t doubt their love for their children, I just doubt that they are able to look past their own greed to understand that they are setting a horrible example. I could care less about the stuff, and I am not envious, as some would say that I am.All that my husband and I acheived, we did on our own.And there are always things I wish I could have, but I have never wished for “stuff” so badly that I would sell out my kids to get it. They are missing so much, but they will never see that..they are who they are. Too bad that these kids got caught in the mess.

  114. 114. Kat said:
    October 28, 2008 @ 3:43 pm

    I am in the “hate” camp. Hate for the fact they whore their kids out for the cash. I won’t watch any show like that, I have my own life to live. I find my family much more interesting than some woman who gets on a talk show and “jokingly” says take my kids. She and Jon should be ashamed of what they are doing, instead our society is validating their whoring out of their kids. And yes, those kids will grow up to be brats, looking for a handout rather than getting a real job because that is what mommy and daddy are teaching them.

    Oh, and the same thing goes for the Little People, Big World group. 2 DUIs and this is someone who is getting rewarded?!? I could give 2 hoots about them and their little world. Acting as if the father “earns” the money to go on trips, buy stuff, etc. The show provides this and the idiots who watch the show support it. Stop watching these greedy, lazy folks (LPBW & J&K+8)! Take as much interest in your own family instead of living through another’s!

  115. 115. Terri said:
    October 29, 2008 @ 10:19 am

    StaceySMod, Stacy Maureen, Valerie, Mully, et al…

    Bible thumper? No, but I do and will believe that the Lord provided for this family. That is my belief. Yours are different. And, I’m not preaching anything. I’m merely letting you know what I beleive concerning this family. My view is different than those of you who only see greed. Of course, I won’t be able to get through your thickheads, you need to realize it for yourselves. Or, at least be a little more open-minded.

    Yes, I do believe you are all jeaulous of Jon & Kate. How else can the venom that you write be explained? Really, you hide behind a name on a blog and think you can rip apart a woman for the choices she made on her kids? Yes, Kate’s in the public eye, but geeze, at least be human, and perhaps mature and not rip apart another adult? I know, a lot of you will argue that that’s what these blogs are all about.

    Em’s mom and Mully, maybe we should follow you for a day and rip apart your parenting skills.

    Once again, let me say that you do not see ALL of the Gosselins life on this show. You don’t see them giving back, to the church, to St. Jude’s etc. For those who had the idea of having them show it on an episode, great idea. Perhaps TLC will do that. Perhaps not. And, consider, maybe Jon & Kate don’t need their generosity shown on the tv. A lot of people prefer to help others quietly.

    Are there other families who are in need? Yes. So, perhaps you and I should help those families out. Maybe instead of writing on this blog, let’s go and donate to those families, so they can be helped, too.

  116. 116. Stacey Maureen said:
    October 29, 2008 @ 11:02 am

    I have to disagree. I feel like TLC and people who are fooled into believing this family is needy have provided for the Gosselins. Sure–maybe in the beginning they needed help but now? They have taken it to a whole new level. They are just downright greedy!

    I am jealous? I don’t think so. Would I want a husband with a spine made of jelly? Someone who acts like they don’t even like me? No thanks. Would I want all of those bratty kids? Especially two eight year olds who act like they are two? Always hitting? Always screaming at each other? Mo thank you! Am I hiding behind my name on this blog? Where is the section to post photos–I will gladly show my face!!

    You are wrong–if Kate had her way, we would see ALL of their life! As it is now we see too much! She is constantly preaching about how she wants “others to see how they live” so are you now telling me that this is NOT how they really live? When the cameras are off, the kids are hugging and sitting quietly? Jon and Kate are snuggling on the couch? I don’t think so. I think it is a lot WORSE when the cameras aren’t there! They don’t seem to hold back when they are being filmed so what would change when the cameras are done for the day?

    Please, if Jon and Kate were donating, we would KNOW ABOUT IT!! They would not keep it quiet. She made a big deal about telling everyone she gave a check to the Ronald McDonald House four years after they were there with the tups. Give me a break. She is the type to want her name above the door as a dedication to her and Jon!! I can see it now–the Gosselin Family Library, etc. I do not see these two clowns keeping anything they give back a secret!

    I just feel bad for the people who are still believing their “story” and donating money, gifts, buying tickets to their “speaking engagements” etc. Great–we realize you needed help in the beginning but now you have your own TV show–cut it out and let the real people who need help get it. Stop selling autographs yet claiming you are “in need” and accepting donations from people who probably aren’t in a position to give to you.

  117. 117. Ems mom said:
    October 29, 2008 @ 12:37 pm

    Or maybe, just maybe, if all of the negative feedback is not a reflection of their parenting skills, they should turn off the camera and go about the business of raising their kids.
    I am not 100% sure, but I don’t think I have ever read anything on here about perfect parenting. We are ALL imperfect beings, and we all make mistakes. Its just that the majority of us are not doing it on the air and we are not being paid to allow the world to witness our kids growing up. I wish you would consider this…financialy they have acheived success. It has obviuosly affected these kids. In my opinion, it is time to walk away.Will it change who they are? Absolutely not. But the world will not watch and scratch their heads any longer.People will not have to look for an outlet, and validation of how they feel about these 2. Turn off the camera.Thats all. Oh..and Amen..

  118. 118. mully said:
    October 29, 2008 @ 1:05 pm

    Em’s mom and Mully, maybe we should follow you for a day and rip apart your parenting skills.

    Terri: I would suggest you watch your words here. No one on this blog has criticized YOU or YOUR parenting skills, so be careful in what you say about others.

    Yes, we have criticized Kates parenting skills. which are definitely circumspect AND since she has chosen to put herself out there for public scrutiny, she will have to take the good with the bad.

    For the record: I have raised 4 children. 3 of them have college degrees, all of them are more than gainfully employed, one of them is the proud father of 3 young boys. The 4th child is my eldest who was born with Down’s Syndrome, whom, even tho I was advised to “put in a home” was raised at home with her parents and siblings. I think that alone qualifies me for being a fairly good parent.

    How dare YOU question MY parenting skills when I have completed my job and duty as a parent by giving these 4 people a great start on what most people who know them would call, meaningful and productive lives.

    Get your “blogging etiquette” in order Terri, before you come here and offer hurtful, mean-spirited words to bloggers who have done nothing to attack YOU personally.

    BTW. We are not “thickheaded” simply because we dont see eye to eye with you.

  119. 119. Mismis12 said:
    October 29, 2008 @ 1:24 pm

    I think Mully, what Terri was trying to say when she posted;

    maybe we should follow you for a day and rip apart your parenting skills.

    was not an attack of your parenting skills personally but an attempt to see it from another perspective… sitting here and judging the Gosselin’s parenting skills is what most posters here do, and I think all she was alluding at was that even though you raised wonderful children (from what you can tell us on here) that maybe someone could have possibly found fault in it as you (and others) are doing to Kate and Jon…
    I dont think it was a questioning of YOUR parenting skills, just a thought that if you too had put your life out there to judge, as Jon and Kate have that people would in turn criticize you as well… even IF you were doing nothing wrong. Point being… no one is ever content with the way people are raising their children and can always find room for change or criticism…

    As for blogging etiquette… WHAT IS BLOGGING ETIQUETTE??? AND WHO MADE THESE RULES????

  120. 120. Lauren said:
    October 29, 2008 @ 1:41 pm

    We all know that Kate’s not a perfect parent. No one here is saying that they are the perfect parent. I would have done things differently if I could go back in time.

    BUT, the main issue with Kate (and Jon) is that they are parenting their children in front of millions and they’re doing it for money. Not for God. For money. They don’t want to live frugally and work hard to support their children. They’ve found out that they don’t have to as long as they are willing to sell their children’s childhoods. They have knowingly and willingly put a price tag on each of their children’s privacy.

    As far as Kate’s christianity, there’s a little commandment about honoring they father and mother that seems to be missing from her Good Book . . . .

  121. 121. mully said:
    October 29, 2008 @ 4:21 pm

    Mismis: deep breath here..because I totally disagree with your take on what Terri was saying, and if she was totally innocent and NOT trashing mine or Ems mom’s parenting skills, then she REALLY does need some etiquette lessons on how to blog nicely.

    Its common courtesy on this blog that we dont trash each other. We dont name call. We dont suggest that maybe someone is an idiot. We dont throw comments around to each other that allude to someones abilities. Most of us would never have made a comment to anyone else that indicates their parenting skills need to be critiqued.

    That is why I said what I said about using better etiquette. No one made a rule, its just common courtesy and common sense IF you want to get along and play nice, which apparently Terri doesnt.

    The way I see this is that when you blog, your OPINION is fair game. So if I say something that is critical of Jon and Kate and you or Terri want to defend them, hey! thats the reason there are blogs and I have no problem with it. But no one, including myself, criticized Terri personally and I am sorry, but that is definitely what she did with her comment back to myself and Em’s mom.

    I stand by my original post. She needs to rethink her comment, not about her defense of the Gosselins, but when she crossed the line and took it to a personal level, she lost me.

  122. 122. Valerie said:
    October 29, 2008 @ 6:36 pm

    To any one out there who feels that the Gosselins are truly blessed and following God’s plan for them, whatever happened to “and the meek shall inherit the earth”? Someone mentioned that this could be a test and in my opinion they are failing miserably. At the end of the day they will have everything they always wanted, but no one to share it with except complete strangers who watch their show.

    Believe me I am not jealous and I don’t think anyone else is either.
    Friends and Family are worth way more than material possessions or extravagant vacations. I am getting really tired of repeating myself.

  123. 123. Hillary said:
    October 30, 2008 @ 8:18 am

    Valerie, I read your comment about not being jealous. Whenever people criticize the Gosselins one of the first retorts those folks get are “Well, you’re just jealous.” I’m not jealous of them either. I have three kids and that’s more than enough for me.

    And I agree with your statement. Sure the Gosselins may be getting money hand over fist, but they seem to have alienated most of the people around them. The kids may have Gymboree clothes, but they have few people left on their Christmas card list to even send off a picture of the kids. That’s sad.

  124. 124. Patty said:
    October 30, 2008 @ 8:31 am

    123. Hillary said:
    October 30, 2008 @ 8:18 am

    …they seem to have alienated most of the people around them. The kids may have Gymboree clothes, but they have few people left on their Christmas card list to even send off a picture of the kids. That’s sad.

    And let’s just hope they don’t include a bill for $20 to ones they do send a card and/picture to!

    I still can’t believe that they gave autographed pictures to the two gals who taught all their kids to swim in North Carolina. I’m sure that was an exhausting task and all they got was a signed photograph! Let’s hope TLC/Figure 8 compensated them for their time. I wonder if Kate pitched a fit about them getting paid?

    She’s on 700 Club right now. Somebody needs a speech coach. How many times did she say, “and Uhm,” “you know,” and “I was like…” THAT’S ANNOYING!!!

    They showed a picture of Jon’s dad. Aaden looks just like him!

  125. 125. Patty said:
    October 30, 2008 @ 8:35 am

    A little 700 Club trivia:

    Did you know that the co-host, Terry, who is from Green Bay, WI, was Miss America in 1973?

  126. 126. Jessica Marie said:
    October 30, 2008 @ 11:41 pm

    So I LOVE this show.
    I think you all need to stop being so negative.
    It’s like high school all over
    calling her fake and what not.

    She is a grown woman raising her family.

    I bet if you all had a show people would be blogging bad things about what you do.
    Everyone has their own way of doing things and their own way of handling situations.

    Either way, those children are amazing. The cutest things I have seen. Hate on it or not.

  127. 127. Mismis12 said:
    October 31, 2008 @ 8:46 am

    Jessica… good thoughts!!!!

  128. 128. mully said:
    October 31, 2008 @ 8:06 pm

    126. Jessica Marie said:

    October 30, 2008 @ 11:41 pm

    So I LOVE this show.
    I think you all need to stop being so negative.
    It’s like high school all over
    calling her fake and what not.

    She is a grown woman raising her family.

    IF she is a grown woman, she needs to start acting like one and that would mean to put her children’s welfare above her own. To date, I havent seen much proof that Kate Gosselin does that.

    Her children are a means to an end for her. They provide her with luxuries and a way to be center of attention so that the spotlight is cast upon Kate. She needs the constant adoration from many because she isnt able to be satisfied with the love of only a few.

    Evident by the fact that the closest people to her, her family, no longer are part of Kate’s life.

    She needs help and to be a true “grown woman” she would recognize that she does. Since she doesnt, I have a hard time calling her “grown”.

    But hey! Thats just my opinio