A new blog! Don’t know how to act…except perhaps CORRECT you.
Kate had IUI not IVF.

How the hell do you pronounce ‘schandenfreude’ anyway???? LOL, Jessica.

Have to admit though, I am a sucker for those kids. They have managed to capture my heart! Kate…not so much.

R2D2! Love it!

well now we know where you really stand…been wondering that since you started the last blog been kinda confused…

and, really how do you pronounce that big word and what in the frick does it mean??? LOL

a third blog…hhhmmmm? is this a “meet in the middle” one?

thanks jessica, gotchya!

i just checked it out on my online dictionary

Hey Patty,
It was “driveness” when describing Mady. She said “Mady definetely has my driveness”. What???? Wouldn’t it just be drive? I caught that too, and seriously just have to roll my eyes!
I almost didn’t watch tonight because the couch interviews are so boring. But I had to keep up so I could chat with y’all:)

It sounds like a freaken disease…I’m afraid I may be showing some symptoms! Is it contagious? Shit…I’m going to have to call out tomorrow.

LMAO!!!

you ppl should be ashamed of yourself. they are just working with what theyre given your just jealous im not anti-kate or pro-kate and its disgusting that you have time to sit here and pick them apart dispicable let me guess you are onlyl going to post comments that support your foul spirit

I have a question. In the picture where Kate is posing in the hospital room below the post by Jessica, there are quite a few cards on the walls. Does anyone think they have any contact anymore with all the senders of those cards? I think not. The only family -friends they have now are the crew, and this is their job. When this train wreck is finally over that crew will be out of there so fast it will make the Gosselins head spin.

I don’t think just because they are “annoying” they get what they deserve…I think it goes way beyond that.

While I was once more of an extremist in my views of Jon and Kate, I have grown a little numb to it all. Too much nitpicking.

I don’t like Jon or Kate. They are takers.

And while I truly enjoy watching the kids grow up, I feel sorry for them. Especially Mady. And I have to agree, we will most likely see a couple of the kids end up in a tragic situation.

It is what it is, and quite frankly I have more important things to do than write letters to sponsers.

Yeah, too much nitpicking for me as well.

IMO, things have gotten out of hand. I personally don’t care if they renewed their marriage vows in Hawaii and who paid for what, nor do I care about Kate’s wedding dress or what Jon wore.

Amen, Mully. She is, without a doubt, a piece of work. And it really does not matter what she reads about herself..she is so self-absorbed and out to get what she can..it really would not occur to her to consider what others have to say.Unfortunatley these kids will pay the price. There are people in this world who have no regard for anything or anyone, and she is a prime example. She deserves nothing more than ANY mother deserves. These kids, however, deserve so much more than this self-centered “mommy” will ever be able to give them.And of course it will continue..for people like her, there will never be enough. Gags me.

Anjelica–that is SO true! I hardly ever see the show anymore, but I love to read the blogs on this sight..

Yeah Jessica! Congrats on your new blog! I love it. And, i am, now, stuck in the middle as well. Im not one of those who doesn’t see that they do anything right, but im not one of those who doesn’t see the wrong that they do. Does that make sense?

Im stuck in the middle with you, yes im, stuck in the middle with you!

I love it Jessica. You are such an awesome writer. I find that some writers (not on this website btw, love em all) go on and on and on in search of description of the situation and that bores me. I just want them to get to the point. But YOU JESSICA, keep my attention every time and i read the entire thing, without skimming! So, it’s a compliment. Carry on with the goods, k?

Thanks for your point of view. I love it! Happy Wednesday.

See, I’m not that easily amused or smitten by children just because they’re children, and the Gosselin rug-(b)rats are no exception. Half the time, I think they’re annoying, but they’re kids, and kids are annoying, so I can’t necessarily hold that against them as unique.

Words to live by my friend. A wise and brave post. Also loved the People magazine line because I’m not above it either. I do find the show helpful in that my 9 yo daughter (who may, in fact, be the intended target audience?) adores it even as she routinely says “Man that Maddie (or Cara) really needs to get in trouble!” So I like that even my CHILD can identify when her generational fellows are showing their a@# to the nation, identify it as very unbecoming, and think to herself “let’s not try that at home.”

Why, it’s practically a public service some days!

Note to self: try to work J&K+8 into more of my writing as it seems a handy way to generate comments.

I think I could blog “I have cured cancer!” and get less fanfare than if anyone breathes a word about the Gosselins.

Seriously, do they have a spider or webbot going that picks up on any hint of dissent the very moment it hits the world wide web and rushes there or what?

(Said in the tone of “where the he@# do I get that gig?) >:)

Don’t forget…

Mady & Cara’s 8th birthday is one week from today. They turn 8 on the 8th. It’s their “golden” birthday. Gee, I hope they’re allowed to eat their birthday cake!

I am going to send them each a birthday card. They need to feel special, too.

You are a brave soul Jessica. Wait till the Katebots come out and dismiss you as a hater or jealous or both.

What I don’t like about Kate?

She makes it seems so easy. But she forgets she had all the volunteers that gave so much – time, money, clothes, etc.

She takes vacations and does fun things with her kids – but she says she “saves” and every thing is a rare “treat”.

I feel bad for the Mothers that think she is SuperMom and “inspiring”.

Proctor and Gamble featured Kate in last Sunday’s circular on her “saving” tips – as if she really does any of things she advocates.

A paper in St. Louis featured her “recipes” a few weeks back. Imagine! Kate cuts her kids’ sandwiches into shapes!

Really ground breaking stuff. She truly is a maverick.

Jessica said: In all their “riches”, what have the Gosselins ever given back to society?

We’re going to see just that in an upcoming episode. They recently had a yard sale at a church and donated the money to pediatric cancer research.

Whether or not they sold things things that were donated to them or things they bought, pediatric cancer research is being helped.

Hello to you both and six more

you are both very brave. Just keep up the great work and remember god gave you this wonder because he knew you could handle it….

Whether or not they sold things things that were donated to them or things they bought, pediatric cancer research is being helped.

And for sure Jon and Kate were trying to benefit from it.

Nice to see you too Lillyann. And you too Angelica.

I’m planning on watching in the morning. Maybe I’ll DVR it and skip the commercials.

Hi Lilly:

I think its great too that the G’s donated the money from the yard sale to charity.

I think that the irksome thing is that they just HAD to make a point of telling the whole world about it on their website with the statement about donating 100% of the profits. Like I said a day or so ago, I got the impression they were making sure everyone knew that yes indeed, they are FINALLY giving back. To me it smacks of damage control and I do believe they have to know (either they themselves or someone at TLC) that they need the damage control.

It kinda took the humility out of the donation for me.

Mully Hold that thought, LOL! I am watching the *debate* after the VP *debate* but would like to discuss the PR issue with you.
Hopefully, I’ll catch you tomorrow.

I’ve sold things before that were given to me and kept the money (Sorry, Aunt Jane) so I absolutely have no problem with her doing it and giving the money to charity. People have been demanding that they do so for quite some time now. It’s true that no good deed goes unpunished. Danged if they do and danged if they don’t.

I think it is great that they have picked out a charity to support. Is it for damage control? So what. Or maybe it’s just a cause close to their hearts. I hope it brings a lot attention to the charity.

Other than that, their financial situation is none of my business; it’s between them, God and the IRS. If they are doing wrong, one of those will certainly sort it out.

They are both profiting off their kids. It doesn’t bother me that they are financially well off or anyone else for that matter. It is why they are that really irks me. They are using those children to get as much as they can get and it is sickening. Yes, a family of 8 with 6 the same age do need help to provide for the family. Usually one of the parents would need to work to earn that money. They don’t need EXTRAVAGANT vacations, teeth whitenings, hair transplants, personal trainers at the gym, spa days. I could go on and on. How are those things benefiting the children.

Has anyone else seen Kate’s interview on ABC’s “What’s the Buzz?” Looks like it was a plug for K-Mart, too, since she mentioned them a couple times during her interview and all the K-Mart products surrounding her in the chair.

60. mully said:
October 9, 2008 @ 5:49 pm

Makes you wonder when she finds the time to parent all those kids AND to make monkey munch AND to bitch at her husband AND to buy organic food etc etc etc

Hey, Mully!

Don’t forget to add a 75-minute workout to Kate’s busy day!

Well, the fact that they eat organic food is all the proof you need that these people are loaded. I’m a health food eater (not necessarily by choice, but rather medical reasons) and live on an organic diet. I can tell you, it’s EXPENSIVE. Literally costs 3-4 times as much as non-organic, so if these people are eating organic daily, imagine what those bills look like. Think about it. In any event, I think parents encouraging their families to go organic is setting a great example. But it ain’t cheap, let me tell you.

I couldnt agree more with you Stacey. I have always felt that Kate didnt come from a family where there was alot of extras. Now before any of you jump down my throat about saying that, all I meant is that she exhibits characteristics of someone trying to escape her past.

The very fact that it doesnt seem to bother her one iota that she has no ties with her immediate family, says alot. I think Kate acts fairly low class and class is something you either have or you dont have and usually its something you grow up with.

She does alot to try and make the public THINK shes a classy lady with an even classier husband and lifestyle. I guess if I were making the kind of bucks shes making, I would too. But true class isnt bought…its an attitude, a certain way of conducting yourself and Kate definitely doesnt have that.

As far as the organic crap goes. Shes about as organic as I am. When it suits her and the camera is rolling, shes organic. Which is pretty much the way I see Kate on most things.

Does anyone know why the kids are going to preschool over an hour away from the house? Did they mention why it is so far? Are they living that far in the boonies or did the kids get free tuition to this school? My bet is that the school is free and that is why they are carting these kids there everyday. Ridiculous! Why stress yourselves even more? How selfish are these 2 parents anyway???

Ok-than they are going to have a mighty long commute if they move to Carolina! Maybe they can get someone to donate a plane and they can fly the kids there everyday.

Grow up! I’d like to see you raise 8 children under the age of 8…

LOL..and YOUR name is Mature?

just a note not sure if it was mentioned b4,
but kate was diagnosed with polycystic ovaries , which her gp would of referred her on to a fertility doctor even if she had only been trying to fall pregnant a few months.
when i was diagnosed i was referred that day and it was only 6 weeks after i went off my pill.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, Debbie..but to say that the Gosselin children arent being exploited is the same as saying humans dont need water to survive.

These children are most certainly being exploited. They are 4 years old for gods sake! Open your eyes! How can children of that age, with their entire lives at this point being subjected to cameras and crewmen in their home filming every move they make, NOT be exploitive?

They have no say, no choice in this and sooner or later, as evidenced by both Mady and Cara’s behaviors, the tups will also begin to realize how grossly abnormal this fishbowl they live in, really is.

You can like Jon and Kate all you wish, but dont be fooled into thinking that this is for the good of those children. This show is for the good of the parents and their bank balances. Pure and simple.
To assume anything else is to be wearing blinders.

I think that jon and kate are great but nobodys perfect. Unless you think you are cause no one is. Kate give 110% JOn gives 140%. They are great parents. If you cant say anything nice dont say anything at all Thank and I am that biggest fan so booyah

Unfortunately, no matter when it ends..and it will, the damage to their children is done. I could care less about Jon and Kate, just as they could care less about anyone but themselves. And thats about as nice as I can get about THEM.

Oh…I forgot to add….remember that we don’t see EVERYTHING on each show. The Gosselins are at the mercy of TLS editors and producers. So, a lot of stuff is on the editing floor.

uh…TLC editors. typo

Why do these Bible Thumpers think that Jon and Kate are traveling the path of the Lord???? They are on a path–it is called the gravy train and the tups are the conductors!!

Medical science gave these two people their babies! Now they are greedy and feel entitled and they are doing everything in their power to “provide” for them. Didn’t you know that if you take a 3 year old skiing in Utah, this would be considered neglect??? Give me a break. These 2 could have provided for their kids w/o broadcasting every last poop on TV. Now they are so far gone, there is no turning back. Kate can see what these kids can do for HER, so she is exploiting them. Jon too–he see’s that he never has to work a real job again!

I see Kate when she acts, how she talks to her husband, kids, and sorry, but I don´t see God anywhere near her.

They are great people…They are real no fake show boats….There is real love in this family..

87. stacey maureen said:
October 21, 2008 @ 7:47 am

Didn’t you know that if you take a 3 year old skiing in Utah, this would be considered neglect???

stacey, why would that be considered neglect?

Terri

I will believe that Jon and Kate are giving back when I see them actually donating bags full of out- grown clothing to St. Vincent De Paul, or the veterans or any thrift shop where the proceeds go to charity. I will believe it when I see one of them volunteering their time to a good cause. So many people have donated to them both in time and money and gifts and trips. How about it Gosslins show us how appreciative you really are and give your time to others in need.

Have any of their children ever worn hand-me-downs. I doubt it. Kate would never accept such things.

All I can say is – What goes around comes around.

Absolutely great idea. Too bad that Jon or Kate didn’t think of it.

I remember when I was in 8th grade a group of us went to a local hospital around Christmas time and gave out gifts and cupcakes to the children. It was so sad to see these little ones sick in the hospital, but they were so happy on that day and it brought all of us great joy. Yes, giving is better than receiving.

97. Valerie said:
October 23, 2008 @ 3:55 pm

Absolutely great idea. Too bad that Jon or Kate didn’t think of it.

Don’t kid yourself…if TLC actually does run with an episode like this, you can be sure Kate will be “front and center” spewing dribble about how they are so grateful, wanted to give something back, mlah mlah mlah. They’ll make sure it looks like it was all Jon & Kate’s idea.

I really do hope they make an episode like this. It would be nice to see, instead of watching them pack for a free trip to a vacation mansion someplace, freebies and all.

Somebody els mentioned this earlier. I think it would be a breat idea. They could offer up one of their trips in a “Make-A-Wish” sort of way. Although, they’d probably be criticized for only doing it for one family and not more. I don’t know. I suppose they could consult with Make-A-Wish to determine the recipient. I think that, too, would be a nice “damage control” gesture on their parts.

If somebody really does read these blogs for them, it will be interesting to see how much of what suggest actually materializes, right?

Whoops–I meant to say “Didn’t you know if you DIDN’T take your 3 year old skiing in Utah, this would be considered neglect”!! I was being sarcastic but left out a word. I appreciate that Kate wants to give the kids everything that she didn’t have as a kid but give me a break. Why cram everything in now? Because it is FREE and being offered to you on a silver platter! That is why I think they are so greedy. It’s like they can’t turn anything down! The baseball game was a joke. Did the kids even know what was going on? Fine–bring them but then when they are getting showered w/ gifts, etc and they can’t even say thank you, there is a problem. Those kids should be grateful for everything handed to them and it seems like the whole family just expects stuff now.

98. Stacey S_MOD said:
October 23, 2008 @ 4:03 pm

Hey Terry…I was offered Pot the other day…and I declined…it’s called having choices…things are offered to us every day… that doesn’t necessarily mean we have to take them or that any of these things is some sort of divine plan.
Even if I entertained your theory…maybe it was God who was throwing all that money in their laps as a true test of faith…& what they should’ve done was turned away from all the fame & riches & turned to their friends & family (or her father’s congregation who offered all sorts of donations that she turned down) for strength, love, & support.
Now instead of having friends & family they have a film crew, hired staff, & a big fat bank account.
And for the record…I am not jealous….my friends & family are worth more to me then all the riches in the world!

VERY well said Stacey, especially the last sentence.

I am so sick and tired of being called jealous because I dont like the lifestyle and the choices these 2 selfish people have made.

If I HAD the choice to make, I would NEVER sell my kids to the highest bidder the way Kate and Jon have done in the name of the almighty dollar.

This isnt God-like at all Terri and to preach that it is, is an insult to people who DO believe in God.

I don’t get it! I have read 4 pages of comments; most are beyond negative. Several seem like middle school or high school gossips.
I am 65+, parent of 3 adults, and a retired teacher. I have seen a few episodes in which they offered a brief grace or talked about getting dressed for church. What is all the carrying on about them being Bible thumpers? If this is something in tapes or other materials they have produced, why would anyone who dislikes this family so much spend a dime on their stuff? If you don’t like them, change the station, go rake leaves, visit a nursing home, or go for
a walk.

Well, isn’t it true of most who raise famalies that they just can’t have or do all that they may want to? I guess for me, it comes down to motivation, and why they do what they do.Instead of a show that demonstrates the difficulties, AND blesings, of raising a large family, what I see are two people who go on the air each week so that we can all watch what they GET and where they GO. I just see greed. And if you look carefully, these kids look miserable most of the time. I guess as long as mom and dad are getting what they want, the kids just have to deal with it. They need privacy in their own home, don’t you think???

Margaret I don’t think anyone accused the Gosselins of being Bible thumpers. I think they were referring to one of the posters. If you go back and read all the comments starting with someone named Terry, you will see.

I, for one don’t buy any of their stuff. I like their show, but I don’t like them. I watch it mainly because the kids are adorable and I can’t believe what is going on in that family. It just amazes me how much they are still being given. They have more than enough now.
They are not struggling any longer. Why are they continuing to be so greedy???????

By the way, I graduated from High School many years ago. In fact I graduated from College many years ago. I’ve been married for 33 yrs and have adult children also. I, however am still working. What’s your point. Have you outgrown gossiping? I doubt it. Most of the posters on these blogs are having intelligent discussions and most of us backup our reasons for not liking Jon and Kate. It seems that those who do not agree with us simply make fun of us, but never tell us why they disagree.

Resp. Em mom I do believe all these kids will expect things handed to them on a silver platter. Television and all the fact that they get so much from sponsors have spoiled them. When the show stops and the camera crew disappears, what will happen to them? They will be just like all small chid stars. They will be lonely and confused because they will no longer feel important, interesting, and loved. Sometimes fame and fortune come wth a price. I hope J@K save some of that money for their therapy that they all will need.

nachyes, they will grow up to expect to receive all that they want. The sad thing about that is that there will never be enough. I mean, look at their parents. They just grab more, and it is not enough. And if they were putting their children first they would have shut this down long ago. I don’t doubt their love for their children, I just doubt that they are able to look past their own greed to understand that they are setting a horrible example. I could care less about the stuff, and I am not envious, as some would say that I am.All that my husband and I acheived, we did on our own.And there are always things I wish I could have, but I have never wished for “stuff” so badly that I would sell out my kids to get it. They are missing so much, but they will never see that..they are who they are. Too bad that these kids got caught in the mess.

StaceySMod, Stacy Maureen, Valerie, Mully, et al…

Bible thumper? No, but I do and will believe that the Lord provided for this family. That is my belief. Yours are different. And, I’m not preaching anything. I’m merely letting you know what I beleive concerning this family. My view is different than those of you who only see greed. Of course, I won’t be able to get through your thickheads, you need to realize it for yourselves. Or, at least be a little more open-minded.

Yes, I do believe you are all jeaulous of Jon & Kate. How else can the venom that you write be explained? Really, you hide behind a name on a blog and think you can rip apart a woman for the choices she made on her kids? Yes, Kate’s in the public eye, but geeze, at least be human, and perhaps mature and not rip apart another adult? I know, a lot of you will argue that that’s what these blogs are all about.

Em’s mom and Mully, maybe we should follow you for a day and rip apart your parenting skills.

Once again, let me say that you do not see ALL of the Gosselins life on this show. You don’t see them giving back, to the church, to St. Jude’s etc. For those who had the idea of having them show it on an episode, great idea. Perhaps TLC will do that. Perhaps not. And, consider, maybe Jon & Kate don’t need their generosity shown on the tv. A lot of people prefer to help others quietly.

Are there other families who are in need? Yes. So, perhaps you and I should help those families out. Maybe instead of writing on this blog, let’s go and donate to those families, so they can be helped, too.

Or maybe, just maybe, if all of the negative feedback is not a reflection of their parenting skills, they should turn off the camera and go about the business of raising their kids.
I am not 100% sure, but I don’t think I have ever read anything on here about perfect parenting. We are ALL imperfect beings, and we all make mistakes. Its just that the majority of us are not doing it on the air and we are not being paid to allow the world to witness our kids growing up. I wish you would consider this…financialy they have acheived success. It has obviuosly affected these kids. In my opinion, it is time to walk away.Will it change who they are? Absolutely not. But the world will not watch and scratch their heads any longer.People will not have to look for an outlet, and validation of how they feel about these 2. Turn off the camera.Thats all. Oh..and Amen..

I think Mully, what Terri was trying to say when she posted;

maybe we should follow you for a day and rip apart your parenting skills.

was not an attack of your parenting skills personally but an attempt to see it from another perspective… sitting here and judging the Gosselin’s parenting skills is what most posters here do, and I think all she was alluding at was that even though you raised wonderful children (from what you can tell us on here) that maybe someone could have possibly found fault in it as you (and others) are doing to Kate and Jon…
I dont think it was a questioning of YOUR parenting skills, just a thought that if you too had put your life out there to judge, as Jon and Kate have that people would in turn criticize you as well… even IF you were doing nothing wrong. Point being… no one is ever content with the way people are raising their children and can always find room for change or criticism…

As for blogging etiquette… WHAT IS BLOGGING ETIQUETTE??? AND WHO MADE THESE RULES????

Mismis: deep breath here..because I totally disagree with your take on what Terri was saying, and if she was totally innocent and NOT trashing mine or Ems mom’s parenting skills, then she REALLY does need some etiquette lessons on how to blog nicely.

Its common courtesy on this blog that we dont trash each other. We dont name call. We dont suggest that maybe someone is an idiot. We dont throw comments around to each other that allude to someones abilities. Most of us would never have made a comment to anyone else that indicates their parenting skills need to be critiqued.

That is why I said what I said about using better etiquette. No one made a rule, its just common courtesy and common sense IF you want to get along and play nice, which apparently Terri doesnt.

The way I see this is that when you blog, your OPINION is fair game. So if I say something that is critical of Jon and Kate and you or Terri want to defend them, hey! thats the reason there are blogs and I have no problem with it. But no one, including myself, criticized Terri personally and I am sorry, but that is definitely what she did with her comment back to myself and Em’s mom.

I stand by my original post. She needs to rethink her comment, not about her defense of the Gosselins, but when she crossed the line and took it to a personal level, she lost me.

A little 700 Club trivia:

Did you know that the co-host, Terry, who is from Green Bay, WI, was Miss America in 1973?

Jessica… good thoughts!!!!

A new blog? I just saw it tonight.

Jessica I’m sure that if I had my own show, certain people would be blogging negative things about me. No one is perfect. I don’t have a show and never would put my family in the postion the Gosselins have put theirs.
When I first starting watching the show, I enjoyed it very much. As time went on I began noticing things that just didn’t seem quite right. This blog is evidence that many, many people were seeing and thinking the same thing.
It seems that the show started out with good intentions and just went downhill. It is no longer about 2 parents trying to raise 2 sets of multiples. It is now a display of how affluent they have become because of the show.
I do realize that by continuing to watch the show, I am contributing to the success of the show.
I will continue to watch the show because I am hooked. The children are absolutely precious. It is almost like watching a drama series or dare I say soap opera where the viewer gets to know the characters and can’t wait to see what will happen next.
I think it is time for J&K to stop the show. They have way more than they need right now to provide for their family. It is no longer real. It is just excessive. Why not have a 1 hr. episode once a year. In that way we can see how the children are growing, what they have accomplished and what their interests are. Not how many extravagant vacations they can take or what material possessions they now have.

I feel showing how “affluent” they have become is a demonstration of poor taste and greed. TLC airs the show. Jon and Kate allow themselves, and their 8 children to continue on in poor taste. Why else would they do so, if not for the money and the freebies?? What other benefit are they getting from it?? It is NOT about a family with 2 sets of multiples. It may have started out that way, but watch episodes in the beginning. They clearly have become greedy. And they clearly are dishonest about so many things. I honestly feel that many who tune in do so to see just how outrageous and ridiculous they have become. As always, just my opinion.

I had to laugh at the episode(s) where they went to Hawaii. Of course they first had to go to San Diego b/c the time change was much too difficult for these little brats. Give me a break!! And what purpose does Jenny serve? Is she just a yes man for Kate? I like how she let the one boy run off on the plane and then suddenly, he smacked into the wall and you hear Kate yelling. Ummm, why wouldn’t you hold the hand of a 4 year old? And if they are really being a brat, you pick them up. Maybe b/c Jenny is just the hired hand, she feels she can’t reprimand them. I don’t see Beth letting those kids get away with that! And come on, stop playing the organic card! Kate is actually blaming the kids’ stomach problems on the fact that their diet wasn’t organic on this trip! Is she for real? What a jackass.

To each his own… i guess…
I’ve read almost all of these blogs here, and almost all of them are nothing but negativity… and just plain talking out of your asses… but, like i said, “To each his own”. Your entitled to your own opinions, even if they are crap…
Seriously though, I watch their show every chance i get, and yea, I’ll admit, sometimes I too wonder about somethings, but if it’s working for them, so be it… right? I personally wouldn’t want a t.v crew following me and my family around constantly, but they dont seem to mind. If you all think that this particualr show/family is so pathetic… then what does that say for you too??? Your taking the time out of your busy lives to watch them and blog and so on, must be something that keeps making ya’ll come back!!!
I think theyre great!!! I think Kate is right on and the hubby and I think their kids are super smart and super adorable!!! Theyre doing something right! I hope they last on air for along time!!!! Oh, and one last thing… ALL OF YOU “I’M NOT JEALOUS” PEOPLE OUT THERE… YEA, YOUR JEALOUS… HA HA HA HA!!!

I was reading on another site today and a young girl, in High School, is constantly defending Jon and Kate. She says she doesn’t always agree with their parenting and their decisions to put their children on display, but she still defends them almost to the point of tears, it seems.

Today was a real eye-opener. She came on to defend this family on reality tv and her reason for doing so? Because she lives in an extremely dysfunctional home, her homelife is so bad that she vicariously “lives” with the Gosselin children now.

I think that is so sad, but it did show me that a lot of posters, like Kyla, are just young people who are easily swayed, easily fooled, and easily impressed by the lifestyle that the Gosselin parents now live and the way that the Gosselin parents obtained that lifestyle. It’s so glamorized that kids today are saying they want sextuplets, they want the attention, the lifestyle, without ever realizing that these little children are paying dearly for their parents’ immature and greed-ridden decisions.

I agree. People need to chill out on the site. Some of the comments are down right offending. It’s really not fair to either side. If you’re “Pro Gosselin” great. If you hate their guts..that’s great too. I, personally see both side’s of the fence with this family. I think the kids are honestly taken care of. They have all that they need. They’re NOT wanting food or a warm place to live. They have it ALOT better than many other “large” family’s. But, I also think Kate Gosselin if really “out of her mind”. How can this woman really think people are going to find her “cute” and “Mother of the Year” when she talks to her husband like that? I mean, for real lady. She can’t be that stupid to NOT know how crazy she looks yelling ” Oh my Word” while she’s freaking out because ” Jon put the wrong color ribbon on Mady”. And then.. go on and on that ” Mady can only wear that ribbon on Tuesday’s”..Is she doing this for TV? Or is this woman REALLY like that? I wish I knew someone who lived next door to the Gosselin’s so that I can find the truth about this family. To me..it’s quite entertaining to watch. In one way its cute and sweet and loving. And..then..it’s a circus freak show. My favorite part is when they are filming Jon and Kate on the couch in the basement “reflecting” on the days events. Sometime’s my mouth just drops when Kate opens her mouth and says the most nasty thing to her husband. Right on national TV. That poor guy just sits there. I mean what can he honestly say to undo what she just said. I like it when he come’s back at her. She gets all sad..lol. One day he’s going to surprise all of you and say something reall messed up to her. Then..I cant wait for what all of you ” Kate Fan’s” have to say in her defense. It doesn’t matter if you have no kids, 3 kids or 20 kids. You have to be some kind of complete idiot to act like that on TV. Unless, you truly don’t care how your actions are going to affect your family forever. When Jon and Kate are old news..I hope she knows why. I’m sure it’ll be Jon’s fault. For those of you who think Jon will leave Kate. NO WAY. He’ll NEVER leave. Can you imagine that guys child support and alimony? I like Jon..I think he’s a good dad. I give him ALOT of credit for putting up with that crazy “drama queen” and for putting his entire life out on the line for ALL to see. I mean how humiliating was it for him to have to discuss his “free” hairplug’s with all of the world? I’m SURE he would have rathered kept that quiet. But, then again we all had to see Kate’s stomach after 8 kids in a few years. I could have done wothout that, personally. The “poop in the toleit” part was not up there on my list either. But..they obviously thought we all needed to see that. Again, I can see ALL of your points with regards to all aspects of this family. They truly have done EXACTLY what TLC wanted. They have EVERYONE watching and buzzing about them. That’s what’s bringing the $ in. I have NO idea if TLC tells them to “act” a certain way. They are definatly not boring. I’m sure TLC wouldn’t want a boring family. No one would watch.
Anyway..I like the show purely because it’s entertaining to watch and my kids kind of like it too. There is something for everyone with this family. I hope they turn out ok in the end. I wish nothing but luck to this family. Keep going Gosselin Family..you make TV worth watching sometime’s.

WOW dude… I am just happy I am not “Kyla” anymore… LOL

I think that is so sad, but it did show me that a lot of posters, like Kyla, are just young people who are easily swayed, easily fooled, and easily impressed by the lifestyle that the Gosselin parents now live and the way that the Gosselin parents obtained that lifestyle. It’s so glamorized that kids today are saying they want sextuplets, they want the attention, the lifestyle, without ever realizing that these little children are paying dearly for their parents’ immature and greed-ridden decisions.

In her defense… your once again assuming that because she is young she is easily swayed and therefore does not know what she is talking about regarding this family hence not letting her have her own opinion and attacking her post… I dont know the background of Kyla or what she has or hasn’t said in previous posts, but it sure does look like she is being ganged up on…

Kyla You’re so wrong about the jealousy. You don’t know what I have and don’t have or anyone else who posts on this blog. I wouldn’t trade my life for the G’s if you offered me a million dollars. So,
HA HA HA HA right back atcha

Valerie Valerie… when I did this… (said something along the lines of you have no idea who I am what I do etc etc and I am not saying that YOU were the one to point this out, I just dont feel like going back to find the exact post) I was told my to open up and lighten up and to change my tone… this is the hypocritical part of this site that is so hard to get by…

Mismim, I think if Kyla had responded by saying that people should not jump to conclusions about her, etc. that’s one thing. But both posts I saw were completely rude. Were people supposed to respond, ‘Oh Kyla, good insight. You’re right – we all are jealous and our opinions are crap’?

Plus you can’t send out a post like her last one telling someone that they have comprehension problems when your own post lacks any type of coherence whatsoever. And I’m not going after her grammar. I should still be able to understand a post with bad grammar, but her post makes absolutely no sense. You want to post like that – you deserve the responses. That’s no hypocrisy in that.

And sorry, I should have said Mismis. And ‘THERE’S no hypocrisy in that.’

Kyla, not sure what your post even means?? What I do see, however, is hostility, and not sure what provoked it. A differing opinion?? Whatever the reason, your post is rude and arguementative. Why?? And yes, calling other’s opinions crap will evoke response, at least from me.

137. Kyla said:
November 6, 2008 @ 12:28 am

Oh, and one last thing… ALL OF YOU “I’M NOT JEALOUS” PEOPLE OUT THERE… YEA, YOUR JEALOUS… HA HA HA HA!!!

How’d you guess? I’m jealous! I also don’t have 8 kids so I have no idea what it’s like to raise them! And if I were offered all the freebies and trips, of course I would take them! My friends, family and neighbors don’t understand me either. Boy, that Kate is a supermom! Wow! Kyla, do you have an address where I can send Jon and Kate a love offering? You think Kate might appreciate a gift certificate for a massage? She deserves it after doing all that laundry and stain removing. How about a round of golf for Jon? He works so hard.

Elise

You seem to be getting intensely bent out of shape over a blog where people post opinions about a family who choose to air their life on TV. Guess you must consider yourself to be shallow and stupid by your own definition. Now, I myself, am not calling you any such things. However, I don’t like the fact that you are implying that anyone who is intense about their opinions, or critical of J & K is shallow and stupid.

You make a valid point, Elise. It’s one thing to dislike Jon and Kate, but I think people have failed to see that they are expressing their negative opinions at the expense of the Gosselin children. If these bloggers succeed in getting the show canceled, the entire family will suffer, not just Jon and Kate.

PS- Many of you are in dire need of a lesson in proper grammar and punctuation.

Elise, I am confident that you can state your opinion without throwing out such inlammatory remarks such as “shallow” and “stupid”. What purpose does that serve??
Mully, again, you hit it dead on. The life theses kids have led to date is anything but normal. I guess Jon and Kate are making decisions based on what they think is best. But best for who?

161. anon said:
November 11, 2008 @ 9:32 pm

Many of you are in dire need of a lesson in proper grammar and punctuation.

Sooooooooo, it appears that I’m not the only one who notices the grammar, spelling, and punctuation. Seems to me that it must be evident if now there is more than just one person commenting on it.

THANKS, ANON!!!

RE: Post #163

Thanks for the chuckle, Em’s mom! You and your cohorts devote excessive amounts of time tearing down every single thing the Gosselins do and say. The relentless pounding and never-ending meanness is bizarre, to put it mildly. But you’re offended that in one post to this blog I used the words “shallowness” and “stupidity.” Yeah, that’s pretty inflammatory, Em’s mom. I guess I need to take “nice person” lessons from the rabid anti-Gosselin sweethearts here at this site.

Lauren You took the words right out of my mouth.

Patty and anon – Just curious, do the two of you consider yourselves to be experts in Math and Science as well as the English lanquage?
I, for one do not proofread my comments on this blog.

Honestly – I don’t have any trouble understanding posts on this blog.

169. Valerie said:
November 12, 2008 @ 8:10 pm

Patty and anon – Just curious, do the two of you consider yourselves to be experts in Math and Science as well as the English lanquage?
I, for one do not proofread my comments on this blog.

I don’t know about Math & Science (not sure what that has to do with anything), but I do consider myself somewhat of an “expert” when it comes to English grammar, punctuation, and spelling. I am studying to become a medical transcriptionist, which requires a thorough knowledge and understanding of English grammar, punctuation, and spelling. You are required to be 99.9% accurate on everything you transcribe. I have had this stuff pounded into me over the last 2-1/2 years! That’s not a bad thing either. I have learned a lot. When I was training with the one company, I could NEVER get the comma placement right. I always made sure I spelled everything correctly though. I guess maybe because of the rigid standards of this training, is why I am so “hyper-sensitive” to grammatical, punctuation, spelling errors, and mispronouncing words. Second only to the fact that this is something we all should have learned in 2nd grade.

I was always in spelling bees in grade school. Maybe that has something to do with it, too. I don’t know.

I also think that technology has made us lazy. Voicemail has made receptionists unwilling (more often than not) to take a handwritten message for anybody. Spell check is another. OK, sure, this is only a blog. Why should proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling be sacrificed, especially since it’s on the WORLD WIDE WEB for everybody in the universe to see? Think of it this way…would you send out a business letter with bad grammar or misspelled words? I’m probably “hyper-sensitive” to this, too, since one of my jobs when I worked for a medical association was to proofread 500 pages of case studies submitted by the doctors to be included in the offical case studies book provided to every attendee. It was ALWAYS my ass in the sling if there were typos on anything! That job demanded 100% perfection. You wanna talk about pressure?

So, I guess being surrounded by these high standards of excellence for the bulk of my career has made me a little hypersensitive to “perfection” when it comes to grammar, punctuation, and spelling.

I’ve never meant to offend or belittle anyone’s education when pointing it out on here. It is done in the spirit of hoping that I can make a difference in somebody’s life to help them improve themselves. It’s just something that is very important to me. I feel very strongly that proper use of the English language including spelling, grammar, and punctuation should be a #1 priority to everybody, but it’s not. Technology has made us lazy – voicemail, speed dialing, spell check, etc.

It is sad when you stop to think about it. That’s JMO.

Patty The only reason I asked you about Math and Science is because some people seem to excel in Math and not Lanquage Arts and vice-versa. Maybe, different parts of the brain are involved.

I didn’t major in English and it has been well over 30 years since I’ve been to school, so I’m sure that my spelling and grammar causes you to whince at times. All I’m asking is for you to be a little more tolerant of others.

Yes, I totally agree with your assertion that technology has made us lazy. It would drive me crazy when the kids would use a calculator instead of using their heads.

I’ve tested with several companies and always score in the high 90s. Can’t wait to be done with training and start earning a living again.

And a good living too. Good MT’s are high in demand and they can command very nice salaries.

Good luck with it Patty.

Patty My aunt was an MT for years. Good Money!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you see my post 175? I think we might have been posting at the same time.

178. Valerie said:
November 12, 2008 @ 10:20 pm

Patty My aunt was an MT for years. Good Money!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you see my post 175? I think we might have been posting at the same time.

Hey, Valerie!

Yes, I did see your post. Thanks for clarifying what you meant. No problem. I’m not upset about anything.

Glad to know your aunt was an MT, too. Hopefully, I will have some financial security for the next 20 years until I retire.

Thanks!

Shallow and stupid would be continuing to make shallow and stupid remarks because someone disagrees with you! Glad, though, that I got a chuckle out of you! Sounds like you could use a little humor….

When the show first came on I found it amusing to watch. Now, however I find it disheartening. These poor children cannot even go on vacation without camera crews around. What parent would put their children through that? What is next? Do the cameras floown them to school? Even at Christmas they have cameras around them. When is Jon going to get some gumption? This man is put down constantly on national TV. Not only is Kate nasty to Jon, she is nasty and scarcastic with the children and people in general. I say, “let those children be children.” Isn’t there laws about how long in a week a child can work?

Can’t wait for Mully’s reply !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

188. iowafan said:
November 13, 2008 @ 12:50 pm

I believe that the Gosselins do have friends that choose NOT to be filmed, and we wouldn’t see that.

I agree, iowa!

I’ve read on other sites that some of the people seen on the upcoming renewal epi are nothing more than *plants* (On one of the promo clips it shows an older woman greeting Jon) Imagine THAT! He was born in Hawaii and has relatives that live there…why is it so crazy to think they actually may have attended the ceremony.

I don’t believe that Jon and Kate have any friends “outside” of the show who are choosing not to appear on camera. If they did have these friends before they became “TV stars” then they certainly aren’t friends with them now. Why is there no mention of anyone? It doesn’t even seem like the kids have any outside friends either. Sure, maybe they talk to other kids in school but what about playdates? You never see these kids interacting with others. Again, maybe it happens when the cameras are off but I sincerely doubt it. How sad for those kids. Especially the older twins. Are they going to be moving to a new house? That is going to be rough for Mady and Cara. What about the friends they have now? Changing schools? Mady is already a beast–I shudder to think what is going to happen when she has to change schools and try and make new friends. Although maybe it will be a blessing in disguise. They can move around every year or so, and then if the kids are getting teased at school, who cares. You aren’t there long enough to let it bother you.

I also can’t stand the promo’s for the big “Hawaii Wedding”. I could vomit when I see that commercial of Jon and Kate, gazing at one another and then grabbing hands and walking slowly into the sunset, while sweet music plays in the background. Give ma a BREAK! If that music wasn’t playing, you would hear Kate nagging “Jon, no, hold my hand THIS way–come on, you are walking so SLOW–Lordy Bee, do I have to do everything around here? Jon, Jon, JON!!”

Well, I didn’t see anything about a new family. Is there another show coming on with new people? I don’t usually watch the whole thing–once I hear that sappy music, I fast forward!!

I have to say, I do like watching the Duggars. Sure, they are weird in their own way–not so much for having a million kids but their whole way of living and raising the family. Each kid has another kid to raise? It is a little much and I could never imagine living like that but it works for them. All of the kids seem honest, respectable, nice, etc. The parents seem loving and you never get the feeling that they yell at each other or scream at the kids. I could watch more of the Duggars and less of Jon and Kate personally!

Well, I will admit that the whole courtship thing is a little odd. You are engaged to someone when you decide you want to start dating them? I understand no sex before marriage but no hugging or kissing? It is very strange to someone who isn’t brought up that way. But it didn’t deter me from watching their show. I kind of like it. It is amazing to me how they manage regular household chores! They even make their own laundry detergent! The dating part was just one episode. I would give it another shot if I were you–you might find that you like it.

The Duggars still strike me a strange..almost cult-like.

I was actually thinking the G’s had other friends. I have heard Mady talk about going to a friend’s house.

From Terri:

Em’s mom and Mully, maybe we should follow you for a day and rip apart your parenting skills.

Reference my post #118.

Save your breath Terri on suggesting that I “chill”. No need. You were out of line then and you are still out of line. If you weren’t suggesting that my parenting skills (along w/Em’s mom) werent up to par, then you shouldnt have typed the above comment.

Again, I am not Kate Gosselin. I have not put myself on national television with the primary purpose of making a living off of my children and thereby leaving myself wide open for criticisms of said parenting skills.

If and when I do, youll be the first to know Terri, so that THEN and only THEN you can feel free to “rip apart my parenting skills”.

No. I dont need to do additional explaining.

Like you said, lets agree to disagree.

Oh this is beautiful..HaHa! The Jon&Kate bashers have found the perfect way to excuse their petty, hateful behavior: It’s the Gosselin’s fault for being public people! Nobody has to take any responsibility for their own nastiness because Jon&Kate made them do it.

Petty would be continuing to try to push your point when it has been clearly addressed. If you truly want to agree to disagree, why do you feel the need to push for more? To quote your own post, chill.

186. Terri said:
November 13, 2008 @ 12:20 pm

Mully-

Chill! I was not trashing your parenting skills, but merely pointing out that if we had a camera on you, I’m sure you would not be happy with a blog or two of opinionated, extrapolating women trashing you for no apparent reason.

Trashing Kate for not apparent reason? Yeah, right! Open your eyes and ears, girl! Kate acts like an idiot on her reality show. Here are just few reasons why hundreds if not thousands of people blog about her.
1. She contradicts what she says constantly. “We eat organic fluff and organic macaroon cookies because it’s healthy”. “Beth is my best friend”, “we moved to this neighborhood to be close to Jodi and Kevin”.
2. She insults her husband on national television.
3. She lies about donating things that were donated to her.
4. She tried to get the state of PA to pay for a full time private nurse even though she didn’t need it because she said it was society’s responsibilty to take care of her multiples.
5. She insulted the people who kindly donated their time and money for her house rennovations.
6. She is rude to people and makes fun of her own children on television.
7. She has disassociated herself from her immediate family.
You know Terri, the list is so long to continue but why do you think there are hundreds of blogs devoted to Jon and Kate and 90% of them are negative? Do you think it is only Mully and the rest of us that feel this way? This is a site where we discuss the show among other things. We don’t post and tell others to “chill” just because they don’t see things the way you do. That was incredibly rude! You come on here and tell us that we assume things and build on those as if they were lies. You have no right to come on here and say that we are not healthy and ae not good role models to our children. You, Terri are out of line and you are the one that needs to “CHILL”.

186. Terri said:
November 13, 2008 @ 12:20 pm
I believe Kate is a very good mom. There is love in that household and to this day, I do believe they are following God’s path for them. Everyone feels and believes in God differently (if you believe). If you dont’, don’t rip apart me because I believe and in the same and see this as Kate and Jon do.

You say they are following “God’s path”. And what would that be, Terri? Exploiting their children so they can enjoy 5 star vacations, live in a 1.3 million dollar home without working, disassociating from their parents and siblings? Live your life in gluttony? Feed your children lobster when they are 4 years old and at the same time asking for handouts from church members for their kids college funds? How does that make any sense?

186. Terri said:
November 13, 2008 @ 12:20 pm
What concerns me is everyone thinks that they are greedy or have an attitude. Remember folks, it’s TLC that accepted all those ads and you’re going to see and hear about them. Does the show allow the Gosselins to do more than the average family? Yes. It’s a part of the deals of TLC. I am in radio. I have had many an endorsement deal and have touted everything from laser eye surgery (which I could never have afforded on my own) to Disney trips. It’s a facet of the media. It really got me when people on the one-side opinonated real hate blog assumed that Disney was giving them preferential treatment because they had the backdoor treatment. I posted what exactly that means and that in no terms was any of the other Disney guests made to wait just because of backdoor treatment. (we do Disney this way all the time and belive me, Disney would never make a paying customer wait). But, my posts were not accepted because I was actually giving factual information and not feeding the frenzy of hate or ripping apart the Gosselins. The hateful, “what about me/the more deserving/there are less fortunate people out there” posts were accepted, only because it fuels the fire.

You are concerned about people thinking they are greedy or have an attitude? They are greedy, they have an option to say “NO” and they don’t. They didn’t donate any of the items that were given to them like they said they would, no they sold them for cash, that is pure greed!!! Especially since they begged for the items in the first place. Attitude? Kate has a bad attitude, an entitled attitude. You can’t blame TLC for that, she comes off as ungrateful and unappreciative. I’ve never seen her help anyone, I’ve never seen her babysit for Aunt Jodi or any other kids. She has an attitude and we think so, so what? You’re in radio and you get benefits, so what? You’re working for it, not your children. HUGE difference!!!!

186. Terri said:
November 13, 2008 @ 12:20 pm
People on this and other boards assume way too much about the actions of Kate and Jon. They extrapolate and put that forth as truth and everyone feeds on it like hungry wolves. Analyzing and picking apart every move of this couple or assuming (remember what Hawkeye Pierce said about assuming) facets of their lives and building on those lies. That’s all it is over there on that hate blog. Lies.

Jon and Kate Gosselin have a choice to put their lives on television. They have both admitted on air that what you see is what you get. Kate throwing toys down the stairs and telling her kids that she is “tired of this shit” to her 3 year old frightened children is going to get a reaction whether you like it or not. What idiot would sit back and watch that without saying anything?

186. Terri said:
November 13, 2008 @ 12:20 pm
Geeze, these two are parents, just like you and I. I guess my point is that as parent, the hatred that a lot of these women spew forth, in my opnion, is not healthy for being a role model to even their own children.

No, these two parents are not like me. I didn’t sell out to the highest bidder so that I could have an easy life off the backs of my children. No, I go to work 7 days a week. I pay my kids tuitions, I do not beg for it on my website. I pay for my vacations and I pay the mortgage on my house. I buy my own cars, my own kids toys and I even paid to have my teeth whitened once. So, dont ever put me in the same class as Jon and Kate Gosselin.

186. Terri said:
November 13, 2008 @ 12:20 pm
And, while I’m at it…let’s put to rest the really silly notion that just because you don’t see Jon & Kate’s family or friends from past episodes, that “Kate has written them off”. This family is filmed only 3 or 4 days of the week. Everyone can’t be in all the episodes.

And, while I am at it where is Beth then? She co-authored their book but is no where to be seen on the book tours? I thought Beth was Aiden’s second mommy and Kate’s best friend? Maybe you can enlighten us. It’s a cop out to say just because she is not on the show doesnt mean she isn’t in their lives. This is a little different since she is so obviously missing from the book tour. How do explain that? How do you explain Jodi coming on to Julie’s blog and admitting that everything Julie said was true?

186. Terri said:
November 13, 2008 @ 12:20 pm
Okay,I’m done. Thanks for letting me get that off my chest

Well, I am glad you feel better. I realize you adore Kate Gosselin and you sound like you should be the president of her fan club but just because some of us do not feel the same, you have no right to say we are haters and liars.

Well put Luvs. You covered it all.

One more point Terri: Its incredibly condescending of you to come to a blog and point out that people here, who are posting their rightful opinions to something you dont happen to agree with should just do as you say. Case in point:

And, while I’m at it…let’s put to rest the really silly notion that just because you don’t see Jon & Kate’s family or friends from past episodes, that “Kate has written them off”. This family is filmed only 3 or 4 days of the week. Everyone can’t be in all the episodes.

LOL..why, we’ll get right on that Terri and we’ll put it to rest just for you because you told us to.

To quote Kate Gosselin: OH! MY! WORD! What exactly is your problem, luvs2sun??? You are a frightening woman. Could your angry, incoherent ranting have gone on any longer? It’s true what you said about hundreds or thousands of people blogging negative things about the Gosselins…BUT it’s also true that there are many, many, many more than that who really like, admire, respect, and wish the Gosselins all the best. I also wish for them a whole bunch more free stuff! I, myself, don’t get anything for free, but I sure do enjoy watching the Gosselins lovely life unfold, knowing that they’re financially secure. In other words, there’s not a jealous bone in my body. Feels good…you all ought to try it.

211. Elise said:
November 15, 2008 @ 2:28 am

To quote Kate Gosselin: OH! MY! WORD! What exactly is your problem, luvs2sun??? You are a frightening woman. Could your angry, incoherent ranting have gone on any longer? It’s true what you said about hundreds or thousands of people blogging negative things about the Gosselins…BUT it’s also true that there are many, many, many more than that who really like, admire, respect, and wish the Gosselins all the best. I also wish for them a whole bunch more free stuff! I, myself, don’t get anything for free, but I sure do enjoy watching the Gosselins lovely life unfold, knowing that they’re financially secure. In other words, there’s not a jealous bone in my body. Feels good…you all ought to try it.

Yeah? Where are they?

Luvs: Dont you grow tired of being accused of being jealous?

For once, I would honestly love for someone who is so rabidly protective of the image Kate Gosselin portrays to explain to me, to us, why we might be jealous of Kate.

Her hair? Nah…I dont like her hair. It looks like an animal plopped down on top of her head lately and that animal got into a bottle of bleach.

Her husband? Nah…mine works full time and always has. Now THATS something I respect!

Her brand new house? Nah…Ill take my house just fine thank you. At least when I go to bed at night I go to bed knowing that, even tho its not a mansion, it was earned from mine and my husbands hard work and not by the exploitation of my childrens lives, privacy and God given right to take a crap w/o a camera in their faces.

Her many opulent vacations? OK….youre right Elise, you got me on that one. I AM jealous of the vacations! I want free trips too!
Hmmmm..I wonder what gimmick I can come up with so that TLC and I could figure out a way for me to be able to travel in luxury? Im too old to have sextuplets, besides thats been done already and ummmmm….Im not sure if the public could stand another reality show of that nature. Ill have to try and think of an idea because oh yeah! I sure would like those free vacations.

Being asked to be on national television talk shows? Nah. Not jealous of those either. I detest most of the idiots who have interviewed them anyway. LOL I laugh at the idea of the word “interview” when I see someone as simple acting as Kelly Ripa trying to do an interview. Nope, not jealous of that either.

WOW! so far I cant come up with much to be jealous of when it comes to Kate and Jon Gosselin.

Can anyone else?

You ladies whine about people “launching” personal attacks against you, but you sure as heck don’t mind “launching” your own personal attacks against people who refuse to indulge in Gosselin hatred. It enrages you that not everyone is willing to join your little hate parade, and you attack right and left because of it. My favorite is when several of you were getting a big kick out of referring to Terri or someone as a “Bible thumper.” That’s so sweet. As for why I like the Gosselins? In spite of their faults (which we all have, by the way) I like them because they’ve got good hearts and because they’re trying as hard as they can to make sure those eight little children of theirs grow into good, decent, kind human beings. Maybe a few people here could learn something from that.

OK I am trying very hard to find Kate’s good qualities, so I asked my self is Kate:
Kind – NO
Patient – NO
Organized – NO
Honest – NO
Mature – NO
Giving – NO

I did find some qualities that she does possess, however:
Greedy – Yes
Manipulative – Yes
Arrogant – Yes
Controlling – Yes
devious – Yes
hypocritical – Yes
self-absorbed – Yes
lazy – Yes

I am personally basing these answers from what I see her do, how she acts and what I hear coming out of her very own mouth. I can give an example to support each Yes and No, but I just lack the energy to repeat what I have already said hundreds of times.

Elise, Maybe you can give examples of why you disagree.

Jon’s qualities are slightly different than Kate’s. He usually just follows her lead. He is much more fun loving, but that’s because he is totally immature and lacking any sense of direction.

Elise – How do you come to the conclusion that J&K have good hearts?

I’m sure that I was not the perfect parent, however I was open to criticism. If there was a better way to do something, then guess what – I did it. Does anyone really think that we are hurting J&K’s feelings. I sure don’t think so. They are just laughing all the way to the bank.

Please don’t say that we are harming or hurting the kids either. Their own parents make fun of them and put them in embarrassing situations that none of those children will appreciate when they are older.

217. Elise said:
November 15, 2008 @ 4:24 pm

You ladies whine about people “launching” personal attacks against you, but you sure as heck don’t mind “launching” your own personal attacks against people who refuse to indulge in Gosselin hatred. It enrages you that not everyone is willing to join your little hate parade, and you attack right and left because of it. My favorite is when several of you were getting a big kick out of referring to Terri or someone as a “Bible thumper.” That’s so sweet. As for why I like the Gosselins? In spite of their faults (which we all have, by the way) I like them because they’ve got good hearts and because they’re trying as hard as they can to make sure those eight little children of theirs grow into good, decent, kind human beings. Maybe a few people here could learn something from that.

Why don’t you enlighten us Elise as to why you think they have good hearts? Tell us how you think they’re trying as hard as they can to make sure those eight little children grow into good, decent kind human beings. Try and compose a sentence without any personal attacks, please.

What “package” are you referring to???? Parenthood? Not a package, but a responsibility.To suggest anything different speaks volumes about your line of thinking. Go ahead and fire back-I could really care less about your “opinion” I welcome opinions backed by fact. People who come on here and act like bullies are old news. Luvs2sun-you said it well, covered it all. The “counter attacks” say nothing new, and just not worth a response, as far as I am concerned.

My view is different than those of you who only see greed. Of course, I won’t be able to get through your thickheads

Em’s mom and Mully, maybe we should follow you for a day and rip apart your parenting skills.

Quotes from Terri’s posts and she considers that I attacked her?

Get in the real world sweetie. When YOU attack first, youre damned right, YOU will get attacked back.

Mully-

Those weren’t attacks. Just a way for you to realize that not everybody thinks like you. Not attacks. I would say that to you in person if I knew you and we were having a spirited conversation.

Addendum: Terri: while I was typing you were obviously posting as well.

PLEASE stop referring to this blog as a “hate” blog. Also please stop referring to all of us on this blog and its other connected blogs, as “haters”

If you took the time to get to know us, you would realize that we dont hate. Strong word, stronger emotion. Im not sure I have ever actually hated anyone. We are mostly, a group of women who are all here to share ideas. Some agree, some dont. We also share recipes, stories about our children and grandchildren. Our very lives.
If we were haters, none of those things I just mentioned would have a chance on this blog, because hate is all consuming and all encompassing. I would prefer that you deal with this blog and the bloggers on it as it/we should be dealt with i.e.people who dont share the same opinion as yours when it comes to the Gosselins.

As I said before, and I think as others have said many times. Our feelings are not borne from hate, but rather concern and caring for 8 children and their well being.

Kate and Jon, to me, seem to be thinking only about the financial future of all of them. Believe me, money is nice, but its not the big picture and its the big picture, which I see missing week after week, that concerns me.

Mully-

These children NEED a normal life! They deserve the same childhood any other child has. Why is it wrong for those of us who have this opinion to voice that opinion?

Why are we told we are jealous people when time and time again we have made comments that categorically deny jealousy? Well, what other word besides jealousy can describe how posters are when they say “I have a husband who work 7 days a week” etc etc. comparing themselves against the Gosselins? I’ll use that word if it’s not “jealous”.

Alright, I’ll try to refrain from calling this a hate blog, even though, there are some who obviously hate the Gosselins and it is evidenced in their posts. No, I don’t believe everybody here on this blogs hates the G’s, but that strong emotion that is geared to chewing them up and spitting them out demeaning their characters is rather harsh. Personally, I don’t see the need for this strong emotion that puts down J&K. It’s just the way I see it. I’ll deal with you all if you deal with me. Fair?

I do agree with your last paragraph…I’m sure they are concerned about their financial future. But, I do think we don’t see everything of this family’s life. They experience life and we don’t see all of it in 22 minutes. I’m sure the big picture does happen with the Gosselins. We just aren’t privvy to really private moments or stuff that they say “no cameras” to.

I did notice the posts on makeup. Really love the Bare Essentials. You can get the starter kit at Ulta stores for $60. Lasts a long time and really does not feel like you are wearing makeup. Great for all of us who are on the go 24/7.

I haven’t seen that yet on this blog. Just whining about all the good stuff the Gosselins are experiencing and the ripping apart of Kate and Jon. If you all truly think that the kids are jeopardized, then direct that to TLC with your thoughts and ideas and maybe something will get done or they’ll listen to your ideas and bring back different neighbors and friends. Maybe your ideas would make for great future episodes. Complaining about it on a blog seems like energy wasted.

Terri: Many of us have done exactly that. Believe me when I say that I, for one, have written TLC. I specifically asked why we no longer see certain people on the show any longer. Their reply? It is Jon and Kate’s decision who or whom they allow to be filmed on the show.

WOW! did that say alot to me! That statement goes to the very heart of the entire situation with Jodi and why SHE is no longer on the show. Kate only wants people on the show who have very limited access to the children AND people who get very limited access to the public. Note: how often honestly, do you hear Jenny speak on recent shows? We have NEVER seen her outside of Jon and Kate’s domain. We virtually know nothing about her. That’s Kate’s wish. She doesnt want anyone upstaging Kate. Which is exactly why Jodi is no longer on the show.

In her own book, Kate admits that when she came home to her parents house after the tups were born, she felt out of place with the twins, as tho she was no longer their mother. She admits that she didnt feel as tho she belonged.

Kate has a need to be the center of attention. She needs to control situations. Its perfectly understandable that the twins, at the ages they were, would gravitate toward their grandmother rather than Kate for awhile. Afterall, they had little or no interaction with Kate for months, while a bond was being formed with their maternal grandmother.

This same bond was being formed between the kids and Aunt Jodi as evidenced in many, many shows when the kids were at her house. The same is true with Beth. There were bonds all over the place between Kate’s children and family and friends that for some reason, Kate didnt feel comfortable having.

Is it jealousy? Is it insecurity? Is it control? I think its all 3 of these things, but the facts are this: TLC, in order to make Kate happy, has basically gotten rid of everyone who, in Kate’s mind, presented a threat and theyve replaced those people with Jenny.

Now, I dont have a problem with Jenny at all. How could I? I havent seen or heard enough from Jenny to know Jenny well enough to have a problem with her!

I think thats just the way Kate Gosselin likes it too.

Mully, I don’t remember who, but yes, someone did email Kate and got an almost immediate response back, saying “she” prefers gift cards so that “she” can get the kids what they want. Gratitude?? Not in my book..

Mully, I will have to pick the book up. Really, been too busy to do anything except grocery shop.

Em’s Mom…how does someone have Kate’s personal email? I find that hard to believe.

Have a great night everybody!

You dont have to buy the book Terri. There is an excerpt from it on the Community Forum. Posted by Stacey, one of the mods of Jon and Kate Plus Eight. She wrote a review of the book and it was there I saw the part about Kate and how she felt with the twins after the tups birth.

I stated I wouldnt buy the book, but I was interested in Stacey’s opinion of it.

It was Patty who sent the email to Kate. She mentioned it recently on one of the other blogs and I am pretty sure, this was a direct email to Kate.

HaHa! Please, oh please, oh please, oh please Mully…get over yourself already. Because of their program on TLC, the Gosselins are going to have the most adorable, cherished home movies anyone could ever wish for. The way you all take everything SO seriously is absolutely suffocating. If the Gosselin kids were growing up in any of your households, THAT would be something to worry about. But they’re not. They’re growing up with Jon and Kate, and they’ll be just fine.

By the way, could you please make up your mind about Kate’s friends and family? You said in your post: “It is my belief that the Kate Gosselin we dont see on camera is the Kate Gosselin many family members and friends HAVE seen and decided they no longer want to be a part of.” I’m confused. I thought that it was Kate-The-Monster who kicked all the friends and family members out of her life. Now you’re telling me it was actually the friends and family who left Kate’s life of their own free will? Geez-oh-pete, this stuff is hard to keep up with. It’s a darn good thing you know them so well so you can keep us all informed.

Mully – Valerie pointed out that Elise’s posts don’t warrant a response and I agree.

Terri – Instead of making generalized statements about this being a “hate” blog and how people “spew” (man, I hate that word!) hatred out of their mouths, why don’t you find the post you are referring to and blockquote it? It will give your posts much more validation if you back it up. Also, why don’t you give us your reasons as to why you think Kate and Jon are doing the best they can?

Also, you never answered my question, why is Beth missing from the book tour?

Blood pressure, Mully…watch your blood pressure.

250. Terri said:
November 17, 2008 @ 8:25 am

luvs2sun-Spew is a great word to use. I am not going to post all the posts that spew forth hate, because there are way to many to do so. Will not take up my precious time for that.

As for Beth not being on the book tour, I don’t know that answer. I’m not Beth, don’t know Beth and I refuse to spew forth some wrong statement that feeds the frenzy. In my opinion, I think Beth is a good friend who might just be focusing on her family right now? Or, maybe the TLC people only want Kate doing the interviews? Don’t know the answer. (and I didn’t answer you earlier because I must’ve glossed over your post. sorry).

Hmmmmm Way to dance around the subject focusing on the word spew.
I guess the fact is you can’t back up your accusations so don’t bother wasting your precious time. Your answer is perfect.
I asked you why Beth was not on the book tours, why would TLC have anything to do with the book tours?
You didn’t address this question I asked:

Also, why don’t you give us your reasons as to why you think Kate and Jon are doing the best they can?

spew – nice word
spew |spyoō|
verb [ trans. ]
expel large quantities of (something) rapidly and forcibly : buses were spewing out black clouds of exhaust.
• [ intrans. ] be poured or forced out in large quantities : oil spewed out of the damaged tanker.
• [ intrans. ] informal vomit.
DERIVATIVES
spewer noun
ORIGIN Old English spīwan, spēowan, of Germanic origin; related to German speien.

Terri, I’m sorry but nothing you have written has seemed to changed anyone’s mind or made any sense to us. So again, why don’t you and Elise just stop reading this blog if it bothers you so much. That is the advice you give us about watching the show. BTW, I don’t watch the show simply to be critical.

We have asked over and over again for reasons or examples of why you think J&K are so fantastic, but never get any. OK – we get it- some of you see nothing wrong with what they are doing. Obviously, we can’t change your minds either, but at least we try to explain our opinions. I, myself, don’t believe everything I read on here. I base my opinions on what I see for myself.

BTW – Patty had mentioned that there used to be a direct email to Jon and Kate. It is no longer available. Don’t you remember Kate saying at one point that she gets emails and deletes anything negative and loves the ones who compare themselves to her and Jon. Patty said that she almost immediately received a reply to her inquiry of sending the tups gifts for Christmas. She asked for sizes and the kids likes and dislikes. Kate asked her to send gift cards to specific retailers so that she could buy what she wanted. I’d call that alot of nerve.

Do you still think that we all Hate and make up stories?

Well, I need to get ready for work. Everyone have a good day.

Valerie get over yourself! Stop assuming that this blog bothers me. I have repeatedly said that the assumptions of the Gosselins lives and the running with that as truth is what irritates me about this blog. It’s not good for the kids. What is so hard to believe?

Thanks for the definitions of spew! You have illustrated why the word works. And, if THAT bothers you, my use of the word spew, than you have way more time and problems that can be addressed here.

Obviously, you are reading what you want to read. And, saying what you want to say without even backing up what you say.

You’ve made it to the point that your arguments are pretty thin. No, I’m not going to cite examples. Geeze, there’s so much you’ve written that is thinly disquised as blogworthy, I nor does anybody else have the time to do anythign with it.

There’s no way now that I’m leaving. Especially with you and your blog bully friend Em’s Mom. (That was a nice grown up thing you wrote Em’s Mom!) I can’t believe that you are mothers.

Terri – You’ve proven that you are in no way willing to carry on a civil conversation with anyone on this blog. This will be my last post to you and I have a feeling you will not get much response to your bitter and hostile posts in the future. We’ve all tried to ask you nicely to explain to us why you feel the way you do about Kate and Jon Gosselin but you continue to launch your attacks against the posters instead of trying to participate. It sounds like you had your mind made up about the posters on this blog before you gave anyone a chance. Debating is two sided and you chose not to participate, so have fun talking to Elise.
Later!

Luvs,agree. Eventually they will run out of things to say to each other. I on the other hand, will continue to enjoy opinions, whether I agree with them or not, from posters who are able to state opiniom without such negativity.
Snow in Indiana…anyone else?

Patty, just east of Indianapolis. Pretty flakes today but nothing major!

Terri – You’ve proven that you are in no way willing to carry on a civil conversation with anyone on this blog. This will be my last post to you and I have a feeling you will not get much response to your bitter and hostile posts in the future. We’ve all tried to ask you nicely to explain to us why you feel the way you do about Kate and Jon Gosselin but you continue to launch your attacks against the posters instead of trying to participate. It sounds like you had your mind made up about the posters on this blog before you gave anyone a chance. Debating is two sided and you chose not to participate, so have fun talking to Elise.
Later!

Wow sounds like I am not the only one who has had this problem… maybe JUST maybe it might be the other way around…

Oh, so sorry Terri – Instead of bother I should have said irritated. I guess they mean different things in your vocabulary. Reference your post 255.

Again, I backup what I say and you don’t. I give reasons why I say things and you don’t.

Terri, Elise – When I see you posting from now on, I will just skip to the next poster. It is not worth my time or effort to debate with you because it is always one sided. Plus, all you do is continue to criticize posters who do not agree with you. I caught your little innuendo that I am an ass and that you can’t believe that we are mothers. If there is someone out there who is pro J&K and is willing to explain why they are so without criticizing others opinions, I will be happy to read your comments. Otherwise, have a nice life!!!!!!!

Mismis – Same goes for you.

To all my cyber friends – I hope you will join me in completely ignoring the above three.

Sorry SENSE…

By the way Valerie, there are some people here to enjoy my differece of opinion and can handle it and realize it has nothing to do with personally attacking anyone…

Valerie,

I was just pointing out that I saw a pattern with those who do not agree with you… yes I feel originally I was treated unfairly on this blog, I am over it…

Yes you can sit here and defend your opinions but the truth is that no one knows actual FACTS here, so opinions are going to be challanged which always becomes personal…

The point is that our opinions are NOT challenged.

The pattern of those who do not agree with us is to criticize us.

I don’t IGNORE anyones opinions either. I WILL IGNORE any one who criticizes ME for my opinions. Terri and Elise tend to do that and you seem to side with them whether you personally criticize me or not.

Maybe you should read Stacey’s post on the other forum to see just how trustworthy Terri really is.

Mismis I agree with your second paragraph above. It shouldn’t be an attack on people. It should be challenging those opinions that you do not agree with – not saying thsy we are depressing you or grating on your nerves. Why didn’t you just counter the parts of last night’s episode that I negatively commented on?

Mismis, the only positive thing I saw on last night’s episode was the children dancing. I posted quite a few reasons why I didn’t like last nights episode on the other forum. Sorry if they upset you.

I don’t remember reading any of your positive comments on last night’s episode. If you have any, why don’t you share them. Instead, you posted that you couldn’t believe all of the negative comments that others had. That is not DEBATING.

I am demanding???

I asked because I thought it would be different to hear something NICE…
I am not making you respond to these things I ask… I just thought it would shed a possible different light… you picked the one positive thing that made Kate look bad… can you find something that doesnt make ANYone look bad??????

Mady is 7 years old, her telling the truth should not be something you pick out as the only positive thing in the whole episode, she SHOULD tell the truth…

Something I found positive????

Jon and Katie’s vows (re-vows whatever they were) I found very sincere and genuine… I think everything Kate said she really meant and that they really are working on getting better between the two of them and that she really is trying to make an effort…

I thought it was nice to see her vulnerable side…

I think it’s strange that people are asking that others come up with positive comments about the show, when time after time they are asked to come up with reasons why J/K are so wonderful and they refuse. Shouldn’t the requests go both ways?

I wrote earlier (and I don’t think it went through) that someone mentioned that they can’t believe that people that don’t like J/K are mothers. Um, actually, I’m very proud that I won’t parent at all like J/K when my baby is born soon. They are the OPPOSITE of the type of parent I plan to be. I know I won’t be perfect, but I know I will never threaten to throw out my child’s security item, or tell my child that I don’t want to hear him breath, or tell them that they are ruined when they spill ice cream on themselves. And when I say or do things I regret, I will try to learn from the experience; and here’s a thought – actually admit I was wrong!

Do we have a cloaker among us?

Do we have a cloaker among us?

Apparently we do Charlene. I wonder where Terri etc. have gone?

What is creepy is that the cloaker would pose as a man saying that they want to share “a male’s point of view”. Yeah, your wife made you watch! Would your wife be Terri? Who does that? What a freak!

Not only did Terri change her name a couple of times, she also changed her personality. Very Scary!!!!!!

Mismis, Maybe Kate’s vows were sincere and genuine. Too bad that Jon didn’t hear them. He thought that she quoted scripture which she clearly didn’t. I think that Jon was more in awe of the trip and seeing some of his long lost relatives than renewing his vows with Kate.

273. Valerie said:
November 18, 2008 @ 4:28 pm

I don’t IGNORE anyones opinions either. I WILL IGNORE any one who criticizes ME for my opinions. Terri and Elise tend to do that and you seem to side with them whether you personally criticize me or not.

Maybe you should read Stacey’s post on the other forum to see just how trustworthy Terri really is.

Mismis I agree with your second paragraph above. It shouldn’t be an attack on people.
Geeze, I don’t even know where to begin. I will say that I think any explanations you wanted in regards to what you wanted to know in regard to what you wanted me to explain about J&K were done so. I can’t help but notice that your post #253 was so out of left field and attacking, I merely wrote back and defended myself. If you wish and luvs2sun wish to continue your childish behavior, then that’s up to you. I personally don’t have the time to keep defending myself.

285. Valerie said:
November 18, 2008 @ 6:33 pm

Not only did Terri change her name a couple of times, she also changed her personality. Very Scary!!!!!!
You totally lost me on this one?? What does this post mean????

Terri (or whatever your name is); it appears that there are multiple identities coming from your computer. Let me guess – they are all legitimate people in your household and that the other people just happen to have differing opinions than yours. Right.

I’m thinking she had guests in her home and much to her chagrine, she just found out that they were posting to this blog on her computer.

Sounds familiar.

290. Valerie said:
November 18, 2008 @ 7:09 pm

Now this is me finally ignoring you, TerriPaul and Paula all at once.

Valerie, nobody’s pleading anything. You are relentless when you don’t like someone and that someone just happens to be me, who has a different opinion than you. That’s what you did in #253 and yes it was an attack as I had already explained that I explained everything (gee, I’m repeating myself. sorry other posters).

Thank you for posting my first and last name! Now that I am not hiding just behind my first name, I don’t think you should hide behind your first name. Put your last name out there too!

Terri Paul

283. luvs2sun said:
What is creepy is that the cloaker would pose as a man saying that they want to share “a male’s point of view”. Yeah, your wife made you watch! Would your wife be Terri? Who does that? What a freak!

For real, luvs2sun? I saw Stacey’s post on the other blog, but didn’t connect the dots…hell, what else is new, right!

Lauren-

I have no agenda but to find out what is meant now about my identity. If posters on a blogger blog are seeing my first and last name (which I am now putting out there for all), then I think you need to let me know what this is all about. Since I am not posing behind one name, let me tell you that I am indeed posting on a laptop on a wireless network.

My husband, who’s name is Michael, does not read these blogs. I don’t know anyone named Paul or Paula.

Terri Paul

Terri, I meant “poster” ID. I am on an antique computer monitor at home and can’t see all of my typos.

Sorry about that. It sounded bad.

I have always used my first name Terri. Now that my last name is out there, I really don’t care about it. But, I don’t understand the Paula stuff. Really, I don’t know about that and it worries me that my computer is being hacked into??

Can I just throw this in there????

WHAT does this have anything to do with Jon and Kate Plus 8????

Whos cares if Terry or Paul or whoever is a man or women or both???
What does this have to do with discussing the topic???
Yes this person has not always seemed legit… who caresssssss????

See what I mean by attacking the POSTER??

Terri, if posting under multiple names was inadvertant, then I apologize as well. It’s just important to keep only one name when posting, as we have had people come here with multiple identities, and have actually had conversations with themselves in order to enforce their points!

Mismis, I CARE to know that the person that I’m posting to is a legitimate person and not just the figment of someone’s imagination. As Stacey pointed out, cloaking is not allowed! It’s a waste of everyone’s time if people are just coming on the website for no other reason but to cause trouble. If you have heard the story of Pennmommy you would know what havoc is caused by people like this.

Mully-

You are indeed good. Yes, I am using a wireless card!! I probably need more protection on my wireless card.

No, I am not married to Paul. My husband’s name is Mike. My last name is Paul. I don’t know who the heck Paula is.

And, Stacy I tried to email you twice directly, and got this message..:
Remote host said: 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND [RCPT_TO]

Terri

Hahahahaha! Lilly..what got spit on your keyboard this time??

I didn’t see the StaceyS post #311
before I posted my last comment.
Now, I don’t know what to believe. Right now, I don’t care anymore. This is getting ridiculous.

Val-

Truce called. Thank you!

I post on a board and everyone’s panties are in a wad! Not one word on the show Twins, Twins, and Sextuplets, what I posted about?

For what it’s worth, i’m not Terri. I’m Paula in Erie.

Stacy-

Thank you. I certainly learned the hard way.

All–I have put this all behind me.

And, I think I am going to do as someone who I have grown to realy admire(Mully) and tiptoe quietly out. If I do come back, you know it’ll be me, first name only!

Valerie – Paula is Terri. I am sure she read the other posts. They have decided to tiptoe out quietly….I was going to say something else but I will remain quiet for now.
BTW – Good Morning!

Hi Valerie,
It looks like Terri has made her way over to another blogsite and is accusing all the posters over there of being jealous. Ho hum, something new please……
It’s cooled down a bit here in Northern CA, too…..but not as cold as my daughter says it is in Boston!!!!

OMG – LMAO!!!!
Take it Jan is right, she is ms wit!

Luvs2sun-

Wow are you a bitter person. Stop the accusations. And, for one crying out last time, I am not Paula. Geeze let that rest!

Since you are very childish, I think I’ll let the baby have her way. This will be my last post on this blog. I do think that some of you (luvs) can only play rotten and make up stuff to keep yourself feeling important. It’s just not worth it having to defend myself against such pettiness.

Val, sorry you’re sucked in by Luvs.

Charlene…my best to you for a safe delivery and healthy baby.

Off to enjoy the company of more mature people.

Valerie – Now that I’ve sucked you in, would you buy a signed photo of my children for $20?
I’ll give you 3 for $50 since you’re so nice!

well, what have i been missing over here??? D-R-A-M-A… my my

why didn’t anyone invite me over? j/k

i don’t ever come here, i can’t hardly keep up with one blog!

I bet if any of the hate mongers of Jon & Kate were in their shoes, they would be waiting with their hands out too for help! These people did not plan this reality show when she was pregnant. It is rare to have double multiples, but common with fertitlity assistance. So, leave them alone, if you hate them so much, stop paying attention to them, after all, no one if forcing you to watch!I love this show and they are honest decent people. Way better than shows we see like Snoop Dog, The Girls Next Door, and shows that provide viewpoints that only confuse our kids and get them into trouble! We need more educational, and real shows like “intervention.” Now that show shows just how real getting into drugs and the wrong path can do to you and your family. This society is too greedy.

First of all, I am not a hate monger. Secondly, I have had many hardships in my life. What exactly is your point? I would like to know exactly which shoes you are referring to. Is it their extravagant vacation shoes, beach shoes, ski shoes, spa shoes, golf shoes, gym shoes. I realize that having and raising two sets of multiples is extremely difficult. However, this POOR ME scenario has just gone too far.

April,
Have you watched Jon and Kate from the very beginning till now?
Have you been following this blog for some time or only the last few posts?

I’m just curious, because most of us make very valid points as to why we feel the way we do. We all started out as fans of Jon and Kate, however, our opinions greatly changed as the show progressed.

I don’t have a hard time believing the rumors either, Mully.
Kate is not as simple-minded as she sometimes appears. She is very shrewd. She is absolutely sending out a message to her audience as well as her estranged family when she is on that couch. “Look at ME, I’m successful.”

LOL! I think THAT staement might have more creedence than anything else Val.

I have long wondered if part of the rift b/w Kate and her parents might have had something to do with her marrying Jon.

Younger, no purpose, no degree, no job, drifiting along. Just a cute (and dont forget Non-Caucasian) boy she happened upon, who may not have been exactly what her preacher daddy wanted for Kate.

Kate has made ALOT of comments about how she wishes she were Asian and how she loves the looks of her children because they look Asian and how much she has embraced the Asian cultures. I have often thought that she may have been saying those things for someone else’s benefit than just her viewing audience and to make a definite point that she was right in choosing Jon all those years ago.

For all we know, the renewal of their vows, could have been in part, a grand vacation for all of them, as well as a chance to rub it in mommy and daddy’s faces that “hey look at us, 9 years strong and still going strong!”

All of this is simple conjecture on my part, but again, it does somewhat fit.

Great, I feel like I’m in the majority on this blog….there is not ONE redeeming feature I can think of that J&K possesses. Jon mostly looks like he’s in “la-la land”, unable to speak (OMG, how embarassing at the renewal vows when they were dancing and there was NO ONE there, plus when Jon met his “family” and there was no excitement, conversation, just a very strained scene). I love catching Kate talking out of both sides of her mouth, which she often does. Did anyone see the show last nite (12/15/08) where the Gosselins give back? (to St. Jude’s Hospital). Kate could fall on the floor begging for her (and Jon’s) ex-friends and family to please forgive them and for their kids to forgive them for pimping them out and I still couldn’t like her. As for speaking out of both sides of her mouth, did anyone catch the episode (older one) where I think it was Mady or Cara received a call from a friend from school…Kate had someone else answer the phone. She says “this is too much, they are too young to start this” and wouldn’t allow Mady to accept the call….but then at the wedding she allows all the girls (4 y/o and 7 or 8 y/o) to have pedicures…4 seems awful young to me for starting THAT, but oh, wait, silly me, that was free!!! She disgusts me, but no more than Jon….what is wrong w/a man who in his own words,would “do anything for his family” (spoken on the interview couch)and is too ignorant to notice he’s NOT doing anything, except raking in the money the kids bring in…what a loser! And, yes it really is sad to see that apparently the blogs about Aunt Jodi and Beth are true…neither of them were on trip to Hawaii or Memphis…who were the teens that went on trip w/them? Does anyone know when they will be moving in their supposedly $1 million + home, or have they already? I always sensed Kate was envious of Beth’s home, $$$ and now that she’s moved up in the world, perhaps Beth is out of her league….sorry for ranting, I just become enraged at K&J and their obnoxiousness (?)Doesnt’ that sound like a Kate word? Also, what is wrong w/a man that allows his wife to talk to him like K does, yell across rooms at him and smacks him all the time, criticizes his speech, etc. It has been said that we will reap what we sow….I don’t wish sorrow on anyone, but I do believe their present actions, disowning family and friends, using their children, their attitude of being owed, etc. will come back to haunt them in 10 or so years. Also, I read somewhere K is going to home-school kids (what a joke) so they will still be “camera-ready”…anyone heard that?

Mully,

Do you really believe that Kate PLANNED to have a set of twins and a set of sextuplets? Sure, she used artificial means of getting pregnant, but even with that, the cases of sextuplets are extremely rare. In the U.S. there are 12 sets. Worldwide, there are 33. I doubt Kate planned to conceive as many children as she did. Obviously if they were not a rarity, they would not be on tv. Hope you don’t find my comment offensive, I just think that it is a little outlandish to think that before she was even pregnant with the tups she had concocted the plan to make millions on a reality show.

Kate: I think it is highly likely that Kate knew she ran the risk of having multiples. Why wouldnt she? Contrary to what you said, there is a very good risk of multiple births using the means Kate and Jon used. She had been warned.

As I said in an earlier post above….there has been speculation for a long time now, that Kate, knowing she was pregnant with multiples, decided early on, to turn the birth and subsequent raising of these children into the multimillion dollar machine it now is. Dont forget, the jury is still out on who contacted who first with the video of the Gosselins, Kate and Jon or TLC.

Ive said this before. Knowing Kate and how shrewd she can be, my money is on Kate having the savvy business accumen to see these children as a means to an end. The end being, never having for her and Jon to ever work a day in their lives again.

Oh yes, Im sorry. They DO work, everyday, from their home, dragging their 8 children along for the ride in the name of “we’ll do anything for our children” (even tho the kids have no say in WHAT we do and ultimately what THEY do)

Time and time again, Kate supporters want us who arent Kate supporters to see her in a good light, to try and find some good in her. Heres my view:

When you start out from the point Kate Gosselin started out, which is, being able to conceive an idea that uses her family to make money, there isnt much good she can ever possibly do after that point. She would have to do ALOT of damage control to ever win me over and in spite of all of TLC’s efforts toward that, my opinion hasnt changed of Kate Gosselin.

After watching their first hour long specials, it is quite evident that parts of it was used to market themselves. She may have her show, fame and all the material things she ever wanted but she sure seems so unhappy!

You can have whatever opinion you would like about Jon and Kate but what is absolutley mind boggleing to me is that you said “Annoying people should be killed because their annoying.”. What are you talking about? Being annoying is a matter of opinion. No one can be liked by everyone. They can be widely liked or disliked but not by everyone. Your statement makes no sense. So you should die on a matter of opinion. In your world everyone would be dead by now, including yourself. Next time you try to make a blog about “Annoying people you can’t stand.” Try to say something logical.

My comment and question is about madeline. OMG, she has to be one of the most annoying kids I have ever seen and heard. I honestly think its amazing that John and Kate can handle all of those children, and on top of that the mentally impaired Madeline, who will be in her future a billion times more bitchy and more stupid than 5 Kates put together, mark my words on this. I have never seen such a horrid creature of a child, hostile and always sullen, crying, bitching non stop even on a trip to Hawaii, and sorry to say but, she is a violent lil rugrat. She told one of her classmates that she was going to stab them in the eyeball with a pencil. What if anything did the teacher do about this, hm what happened to 0 tolerance. Guess this doesn’t apply to Madeline. My question if anyone knows is what is wrong with Madeline?

I normally have a very hard time finding anything to defend when it comes to the Gosselins. But to be fair here, thats because I heartily detest both Kate and Jon.

The kids are innocent pawns in this farce of a life the parents have chosen for them.

They are now, by all accounts, googling which also means they are prone to more than likely actually SEE hateful comments you made, kayliiya.

Its a total and complete lack of responsibility to make offhand comments about an 8 year old child who has absolutely no say so in the choices made for her life. Yes, Mady can be a brat, but she is also a very bright, sensitive child who seems to be crying out for help.

She should be felt sorry for instead of being made fun of and called cruel names.

Dont bother posting here anymore unless you can clean up your act!

Here is a bit of advice, make sure that when you talk (or in this case type) that it makes sense. Why would an 8 year old be online in the first place? Wouldn’t Maddy be so upset to hear that I think she is a violent, spoiled, brat. However, she would be thrilled with you calling her mother and her father, but mainly her mother a detestable mean woman, who never cared about any of the children, but rather saw them as a means to an end (money, fame and fortune). You hypocritical losers

LOL..the more I re-read the post by so what of it, the more perplexed I am. Who are you talking to? I dont recall anyone, ANYWHERE on this blog defending Drew Pederson OR his new “catch”.

You been hitting the eggnog a little early my dear?

I doubt the parents of the brat would allow her to surf the web without supervision, therefore I doubt she will be reading anything that might upset her. When she is older and can read that someone out here thought she Maddy was a brat assuming she also watches reruns of their show she might secretly agree she was demanding and obnoxious. I wonder why child protection services aren’t involved in the Maddy situation. It has been suggested the children have no choice in their situation. I myself don’t find a problem with children on TV as long as they wish to be and it isn’t being forced upon them, but on second thought about this I don’t think Mattie’s prob is being on TV, but rather she wishes to be the only one on TV, LOL. Also have you ever noticed when a teen or adult commits a crime they always look back into the childhood of that person. Therefore it seems what the kid is doing now might be a projection of more to come in adulthood, and I bet if she were a boy people would be hollering about the violent person he probably would become in his teens and beyond, but don’t worry I doubt she is going to be kicking your ass someday. If someone ever does dont worry about what type of child they were in their childhood, remember the poor innocent thing. The childhood makes no difference in your analogy of what that person is going to be like in the future when she/he is all grown up.

Linda said: I just become enraged at K&J and their obnoxiousness (?)Doesnt’ that sound like a Kate word?

Obnoxiousness is a word. So, I’m sure Kate would think think it sounds like one.

Kayliiya: It’s MADY. That’s how you spell her name. Regardless if you think that the kids are online or not…any normal adult with average intelligence would know not to start shit about a kid. A KID. A KID. Think what you want…discuss her behavior problems, but grow up and act like an adult. Goodness forbid someone ever talk smack like that about your child online…I’m sure you would throw a fit (or would you???). These are children who do not deserve below par “adults” like you putting them down.

Listen, you hags are pathetic, who do you honestly believe you are scoring cookie points with? Kate? Jon? Or Mady and the other 7? Yeah I think it’s the latter, you want to fantasise about coming in and taking over the mommy role, because you all are sooooooooooooooo sooooooo much better than Kate. And by the way Mady, yes you are a brat. I believe it’s a jealousy problem. (Even though I know you aren’t reading this) Kate is too much of a responsible mother as to allow her eight year old access to the computer) But yes, Mully and you other wanna-be-perfect-mommies-scoring points, yeah, you just dissed the hell out of her mother and her father. In her teenage years, when she will be going through the normal teenage loneliness, depression, who loves me? phase, I doubt she will be concerned with me calling her a brat. However, you retarded skanks, your comments of how her parents NEVER LOVED THEM, AND USED THEM AS A MEANS OF GETTING RICH, will with out a dobut be a billion times more harmful to her and her siblings than anything I would ever say. But I dont expect you skanks to understand that….. You couldnt even understand THE CONCEPT of my posts yesterday. Go F yourselves you useless bitches. And remember if you don’t like what I’m saying on this forum then leave, but I know you can’t resist. buh bye

to Kayliiya:

Mady a “mentally impaired child?” How can you say such a thing? She’s not mentally impaired. She has very serious emotional issues that her clueless parents choose to ignore by saying she’s “disgruntled,” or that it’s just “sibling rivalry,” or “that’s just Mady.” She needs “special handling,” and by that, I don’t mean spanking or anything else. If you’ve read any of my other posts on Imperfect Parent or Color Me Gosselin, you’ll see what I mean. Mady is only 8-years-old. Their first clue that she had “issues” is when she told Kate that she wished it was still only the four of them. The other time was when she asked Kate if poking one of her little siblings with a pencil would be considered an accidental poke. Mady needs some serious psychological counseling to help her deal with her issues. BUT, until her clueless parents realize this, her behavior won’t change.

As I’ve said in many a previous post, I don’t hate Mady. I feel sorry for her actually. It must be awful to live day-to-day saying that “every day is the worse day of your life.” I don’t think her behavior is her fault either. I blame her parents for allowing it to continue, not dealing with it appropriately, and not getting the child the professional help she needs.

I also don’t approve of the little ones hitting each other all the time either. I’ve said it many previous posts that I don’t think 4 minutes in the corner does the trick either. If you’ll notice, they “do their time” in the corner, then minutes later they are right back to hitting, biting each other. Until Jon and Kate deal with this behavior effectively, it will continue.

If they would only learn to “empower” their children, their behavior problems would be much, much less. But, I guess Kate likes the constant tension in the house. I don’t think I would.

Sorry, but to refer to Mady as “mentally impaired” isn’t exactly a fair assessment. I referred to Alexis as a little “bee-och” once and was practically stoned to death on here. By “bee-och” I simply meant that she doesn’t mind or do what she is told to do. She is also one of the tups who is very “physical” with the others. She is also the one who “screeches” and jumps up and down when things don’t go her way. Thank goodness it’s only one who does that. Can’t imagine what life would be like if they all acted that way. Again, until her parents deal with that behavior, it will never, ever change.

Same thing with Jon barking one-word commands at them. They would react much differently if they were spoken to using nicer words and a nicer tone than just barking, “GET OVER HERE NOW,” or “GET DOWN,” or “STOP IT!”

Go back and read some of my posts. You’ll see exactly what I’m talking about.

Merry Christmas everybody! I hope Santa is good to all of you this year.

I had NO idea that I was a skank!!!

A retarded skank. How does one “F off” ?

I agree completely that young Mady has a host of problems that badly need to be addressed by a psychologist. I also suggest that what we see on the tv is just the tip of the iceberg where Mady’s rebellion, Kate’s explosive anger and Jon’s passive aggressive reactions to Kate’s bullying are concerned. It concerns me that these children are being raised by two fairly messed up parents without the stabilizing effect of extended family and are apparently going to be home schooled. Every child needs time away from their parents and siblings, especially considering the fact that they work together, play together and now, are going to learn together. Somehow I don’t see Kate having the patience to home school eight children for more than five minutes! My prayers are with the kids. Somehow, I think, in the long run the parents will get what they deserve.

I couldnt agree more with Pat’s comments.

I am not a proponent of home schooling. I have never been. I understand the reasons behind it, but I still think the reasons to NOT home school far outweigh the reasons TO home school.

I think children need experiences and stimuli that you simply cannot get staying at home with your siblings and parents all day. They need challenges that the outside world provides and yes, sometimes maybe not so great challenges, but those are the things that help children learn to use tools that they need in later life in order to make sound and logical decisions. If they are at home all the time, those challenges will not be likely.

They need to learn other cultures, other families habits and traditions. They need to see, for example, that not all families do it the way their family does it. They need to learn to understand that “their” way isnt the only way and you cant do that when all you see is your way.

I believe children who grow up in a home schooling atmosphere might also possibly grow up being very self centered and self entitled. The real world, the grown up, adult world, isnt “all about you” it isnt “all attention focused on only you” These kids already live a healthy dose of ME everyday of their lives as it is.

I fear that these kids will have enough adjusting to do once they realize that the world doesnt revolve around the Gosselins. Add into that, home schooling, and the chances of them developing normal socialization skills seem remote to me.

Those kids are certainly a psychology project in the making. If you watch them, a couple of the kids present oppositional/defiant tendencies, Madie being one of them. Kate is obsessive/compulsive. A couple of the kids withdraw into themselves when things don’t go their way and certainly Jon also withdraws and/or ignores. I remember when the six were little it seemed that Kate rarely paid attention to the boys. Now at least that seems to be somewhat better. They seem to go through people, perhaps wear them out, and it’s unfortunate but they have little or no connection with family which means that their children will grow up without the grandparents and aunts, uncles and cousins that most children cherish. It’s all very sad. On a happier note, I think there is another special about the Mathias Quads in the works. I believe we all need to compliment TLC when they run a program that shows honest and loving parenting.

Hello Linda and welcome to the site. I think that its very possible that they read. There have been accounts that Jon definitely reads the varying blogs. Whether these accounts are true or not, who knows?

There are even some comments that he has “masqueraded” as a poster and made comments in their defense on some blogs.

I know this much. If I were them, Id be reading! I would want to know what people thought of me and my family.

I may be the only one who doesn’t know, but can someone tell me the real reason parents (other thab Jon’s deceased dad) and sibs other than Kevin are never shown…even blurred faces in pics of wedding videos?

Coming from a social work background of working with families, I am surprised we don’t see more disfunctional family dymanics within this family. Their interaction and handling of problems others address everyday (ie buying new beds) is the attraction factor…No? Once we get into trips to Hawaii and visits to Disney for 10, the value of the show in my opinion is diminshed, as it doesn’t seem as believeable anymore. But then, what else can they entertain us with?

I’m curious about church involvement. I think I saw one episode with that, but then nothing more. Anyone have thoughts on that? How about you Gosselin family? Care to share? I’m not being judgemental, just curious as an avid watcher.

I’ve been watching this show along with others that have a lot of children on TLC and Discovery, mostly because I am an empty nester and am fascinated at how other families manage in this day and age. I always wanted a large family, but it was ot meant to be for us…and I’m sure God knew what He was doing! Anyway, The comments that Pat Schmidt has made seem to be right on the money about this family. The parents really need to be looking at the immediate needs of their children….GOOD call Pat!

Initially, the show was actually interesting to watch because of the actual everyday lives were real….It was always pretty annoying watching and listening to Kate constantly “bitching” (for lack of another word) at or about all of the kids, Jon, the cleaning lady she
finally hired (for 1 episode), laundry (which is NEVER ENDING for anyone with kids!), etc. Because even with only 3 kids, all spread out with different interests, different schools, and different friends, a husband who travelled, and NO relatives (Do you hear that Kate?) to help at any point or time, was very hectic. (As most peoples lives are today…it’s just a normal way of life for everyone with kids….) So, it does get old listening to her complain about everything. I’m sure she has to stay organized in order to get things done, but too much of that does not make for a happy family life…..

What will she do when all of those kids are older and have different interests, want to have friends over to sleep, and no one left to help (since she seems to be alienating everyone)? By that time the money will no longer be coming in because the show won’t last 4-ever; ..and re-runs of reality shows are not the same as re-runs of “I Love Lucy”..So those royalties won’t be as steady either. They really need to rethink their priorities….If they were approaching all of this to make the lives of all of those children better, I don’t think there would be so much negative mail……Our priorities have always been (besides the everyday living expenses) : education that fits each child, college funds, weddings (And they have 5 girls!), and retirement. (Everyone has different priorities, but the kids’ needs should be up at the top. As parents, we all made a choice to have our children, so we have an obligation to take care of them, and not put our desires (not needs), first What they appear to be doing is taking care of their (meaning Jon & Kate) immediate WANTS/DESIRES….Don’t the child labor laws apply to these kids? For the audience, the children are the main attraction…As far as I can tell, they have been doing this show for a few years now and Jon was working when the show started. So, why haven’t college funds been at least started, with a big chunk already saved? Or trust funds set up for these kids? I don’t get it! And don;t they worry about things like major health issues for either parent or braces for the kids? We just assumed that kind of stuff….prayed none of it would happen, but somethings are bound to pop up.

I do think they are exploiting their kids and are alienating them from family and friends. Did I read somewhere that Kate was thinking of home schooling the kids? Oh, I hope not! They need to be with other kids and have their own friends and activities. Plus, I really do not think Kate has the temperament to actually teach them all at once!….What about the twins? Will she take them out of school and home school them? I am for revamping the public school system (and schools in general), but some people should not be teachers….not even home school teachers….There still is a lot of prep time for that and standardized testing is still expected….Kate should really think twice before she does it…it will take her away from her “cleaning”, “laundry’, “organic cooking” and “spa and beauty days”. It’s a full time job…Plus, she won’t have time to have any more tucks done.

I hope Jon & Kate really rethink the lives they are currently living, and try to look forward to see what they should be doing for their 8 beautiful children, so they become happy and well adjusted adults.

I’m glad to read Michele’s comments and I think she said it well.

Listen I do watch the show actually I’ve been watching since they first aired there 1 hour special years ago i can agree to some but disagree with others like for instance I do agree Mady has very serious issues and i think she needs a good smack once in awhile but Kate just rolls her eyes and says thats our Mady?????? are you serious she is definately crying out for something thats obvious and I’m also hearing she is now home schooling the children (yikes) I think you people are right they most def need to get out of that house and get with other children there own ages!!!! now tonight there airing (the new house) I wonder where that would be? It seems to me she (Kate) is moving farther and farther away from friends and family which I believe is very important FAMILY all family Aunts, Uncles, Grams, Pops, cousins etc…. you get the point! Someone also made a comment about the children turning into drug adddicts well they didn’t use that word but refrences like danny bonaduci Please I grew up with addiction in my family and believe me you would not wish that on your worst enemy lets just pray that the children are ok and never turn to a life like that!!!!!!!!! P.S. Jon and Kate I still think you guys do a great job I have 1 and believe me i think thats hard thats right 1 so I do give them alot of credit I think they do a great job raising them shes strict yes but if she wasn’t could you just imagine the choas in that house did anyone every watch super nanny???? well there are parents that cant handle 3,4 or even 5 kids??? So i gotta give her that she does have those kids well behaved!!!!!!

Move over Jon and Kate…..a family in CA just had 8 babies yesterday all at one time! Oh My!!!!!Let’s all hope they continue as “stable” and come home safely. I mean, isn’t that a common thought we all have for all the kids?

Wonder if the tv hounds are on this family already to lock up a show? Maybe this family will need the financial help. Guess I can’t blame them for that. Besides, we all still watch, don’t we?

Linda, I heard on the news this morning that the parents of the octuplets are requesting privacy, no information other than the clinical course, is being released. No photos, no names . . .

I would like to applaud these parents for not exploiting their “multiple blessings.”

Now, if they change their minds, they should call Jon and Kate Gosselin and get some “marketing” tips. Nah . . . the Gosselin parents would never let another family get anything for free. Not when there’s so much more that the Gosselin Ten need.

Thanks Cathy for yet another “real” take on the train wreck that is this show.

Apparently you live in the real world and arent so idealistic that you think Kate is someone to emulate.

I hope that other, more impressionable people can find better role models for how to be a decent parent, than Kate Gosselin.

Oh geeeze….at least this one didnt use their, theyre and there incorrectly.

Hmmmmm…maybe the message made it thru.

Mady is a normal little kid

Not by a LONG shot toots!

Mady is not a normal 8 year old and she needs help and whether or not you and I or anyone else agrees with Kate as Mother of the Year (for the record,I dont) there is no doubt that Mady needs serious intervention. This is a child literally screaming for attention. Evidence of that is the most recent episode where the cameraman catches Mady kicking Alexis in the side/back and when Mady realizes the camera caught it for the first kick, she DELIBERATELY decided to do it again and yet again ON CAMERA!

I dont know how old you are “megan” and if you are a parent or not, but anyone with any experience with children will tell you that Mady’s behavior on the show Monday night was a blatant calling out for some sort of help.

Mady is many things, among them she is intelligent, street smart and has a lively personality. What Mady isnt, however, is normal.

megan said:
January 29, 2009 @ 6:09 pm

These kids do not look unhappy.

http://www.accesshollywood.com/shocking-new-octuplets-update_video_977262

Just curious, do you think Mady looks UN-happy here?
http://www.accesshollywood.com/shocking-new-octuplets-update_video_977262

You also aren’t realizing that they are each other brothers and sisters. I know that when me and my brother were little we hit each other. My parents didn’t allow it and we grew out of it, but we never hit anyone outside the family when we were little and I NEVER hit my parents. It’s basic sibling interaction.

There’s a big difference between a couple of little kids taking swings at each other in anger and an 8 year old kicking a 4 year old in the back all the while knowing she is being filmed. It’s an obvious cry for help.

I am so glad I found this!!! Not only is Mady not normal but she is just plain mean!!! I have watched this show since its inception, I’m well educated and also a mother of 2 boys, so I have an educated, experienced opinion which is that these kids are very unhappy, neglected and are being inundated with Kates anxieties. This last episode just topped it off with me – where Mady continually is kicking Alexis – and I’m now having a hard time watching the show. And Kate continually defending Mady, saying ‘she just wants to be involved’ or ‘she’s tired’, just doesn’t begin to explain away her horrible behavior! If they don’t get a grip and SOON, on that childs anger issues, she’s really going to have a tough time in life because other people aren’t going to be making excuses for her, they are simply going to label her for what she is – a mean, angry, sad child. Whatever the reason for it, she has a nasty disposition, and I think the true reason the camera was kept on her while she was kicking Alexis incessantly, was because the crew wanted us, the public, to see just how bad it really is with her. I’m sure THEY could really tell some stories, if truth be told! Anyway, I just wanted to back the writer who talked about Mady’s behavior, and agree with whoever said Jon needs to step up and stop letting Kate make all these unfounded excuses for her. Jon sees what Mady is like, but everytime he points anything out or tries to intervene, Kate starts the excuses. There are no excuses; there really needs to be some professional intervention with that child before one of the little ones gets hurt badly. I’m sure they’re scarred now by her bossy, domineering treatment of them, but before they are physically in danger I hope someone steps up and stops her. She was so adamant about Alexis getting out of HER room, and the kicking was so deliberate, & HARD, that I personally think Mady doesn’t deserve to have a room of her own. If I were the parent there I would not hesitate to remind Mady that I, THE PARENT, owns, not only her room but the whole house. But, if I were the parent, I would not be hosting such a dreadful mess on a TV show, or allow anyone to be privy to all the anxieties and fears she has. Bottom line – get Mady some help and protect those little ones, Jon – get a spinal implant or something to help you develop one and Kate – they make meds for your condition. You’re a nurse (& so am I), so you should know that there is help out there for you too. Get it!!!

Note: Anyone know WHY Kates parents/family, except for Kevin, is not in the picture anywhere??? I’ve never understood that and I can only imagine the real answer!!

Now, Kate may not be the most likable person in the world but…

Why shouldn’t they make some money off of the show. Obviously this will help the children in the long run, and calling them exploited is crazy. Because of the show both parents can be home all of the time, take them on trips, plan extensive activities for them, pay for their college in the future, etc, etc… They are too young to have become self conscious on camera and make life more difficult for them, and the show will be off the air before they reach that age anyways.

Should they give back to their community, sure, and maybe they do, how would we know. I don’t feel that all wealthy people give back though, so this is a moot point. And lets not pretend for a second that most wealthy people have really done more to deserve to hoard their money than this family if they so choose. And if they do now have the money, why shouldn’t they be excited to have a great new home?

As for the children being abnormal, having a couple children of your own does not make you an expert on human behavior simply through comparison to your own offspring. I have none, but can tell you the traits exhibited by these children are definitely not unique, strange, or problematic… You can see these traits in many children, even when simply seeing them in public or by observing a friends children.

Give it a rest, the jealousy intrinsic to these arguments is blatantly transparent.

403. Peter said:
January 31, 2009 @ 11:56 pm

As for the children being abnormal, having a couple children of your own does not make you an expert on human behavior simply through comparison to your own offspring. I have none, but can tell you the traits exhibited by these children are definitely not unique, strange, or problematic… You can see these traits in many children, even when simply seeing them in public or by observing a friends children.

Give it a rest, the jealousy intrinsic to these arguments is blatantly transparent.

Um, Peter…sounds like you’re a little too into a show about 8 little kiddies…

Actually, the house was 1.3 million and for those who don’t know, a million ain’t what it use to be and a million for a house that big with the acerage is a great buy. Maddy was kicking Leah – her hair is more black and her face is more pointed than Alexis. Obviously, Hannah and Collin, Alexis and Leah and Joel and Aaden share genes with each other. I love the kids including Hannah who I think may be the slowest of the kids and a possible reason why she gets so much more love. The show has run four years which is a terrific ride and will probably run for a few more years. Best to watch with the sound turned down to avoid the bickering of these two low class parents.

Steph, Kate has always said that what we see is the real thing. According to you, TLC is trying to show this family in the worst light possible. Would any mother in their right mind agree to that? No, what we see is real and probably even worse when the cameras are not rolling.

Peter, REALLY? – both parents can stay home? Those parents are never home and have other people watching the 8 kids that they had. J&K are doing nothing for their kids – it is all for THEM.
I have to ditto Mully, Get your head out of your ass.

Sherp – I have no idea what you mean by Hannah is “slower” but if you’re implying that she is slower mentally, I don’t think that is a fair assessment of a child you don’t know. Just because she has two idiots for parents doesn’t mean that you have to say negative things about innocent children. And Mady was kicking Alexis, there is a streaming video clip of Mady kicking Alexis over and over on another blog, there is a link to it on the Musings blog if you want to check it out.

Robyn -

1) During one of the Q and A episodes, Jon and Kate said that Jon’s mother is not involved because she is remarried (his father is deceased) and lives far away. They also said that Kate’s parents didn’t know “how” to help, so they are not involved at all.

2) In a recent interview with Jon, he says that he talks to his mother 5 times a day and sees her often. He also mentions that Kate’s parents do not see any of their grandchildren, and that when the kids leave the nest, they consider them gone forever. This is a contradiction to what Beth writes in the book where it is mentioned that the twins lived with Kate’s parents while she was in the hospital on bed rest while pregnant with the tups.

3) From today’s issue of USA Weekend magazine in the 2/1/09 Sunday paper:

Why are there no grandparents involved in the TLC reality show “Jon & Kate Plus 8?”
Linda MacDonald, Allen Park, Mich.

Jon Gosselin’s father died in 2005, and his mother lives away. With Kate’s folks, the situation is a bit more sticky. Some viewers, especially those commenting on blogs, are convinced Kate is estranged from her parents. But reps for the popular show and the Gosselins say Kate’s parents choose not to be involved. Cameras do not follow the family of sextuplets and twins everywhere, just for a few hours, two to three days each week. The grandparents may not be as absent in real life as they seem to be on TV.

Thanks for the answers, luvs2sun! I have wondered where they are when she talks about needing so much help. I also wonder if there is some animosity towards Kate marrying a man of a different ethnicity because when they went to Hawaii to ‘remarry’, Jon made some comment about at their first wedding they wanted to have it in Hawaii, but some of the family ‘couldn’t or chose not to’ travel so far so they decided to have it where the family was. I don’t know – it all seems soooo bizrre to me. I can’t imagine that if my daughter had all these adorable little china dolls that I wouldn’t be right there helping in anyway I could. Kate is so terribly anxiety ridden, who knows??? She’s going to have a meltdown one of these days, Jon’s going to get all those kids and move to Hawaii and marry one of the Hula girls that he and the little boys were so taken with while they were there – just my prediction! I do agree with whoever wrote earlier about Jon getting tired of being talked to like a dog. He will, one of these days, no matter how much she tries to pretend on air that they ‘truly love each other’. Have you seen the pics of them before they were married??? He was quite the little stud, so I’m sure that one of these days he’s going to remember that life is alot better than her screaming at him and those kids all the time and that there are alot more interesting things in life than Kate spending 4 hrs on a ‘nasty refrigerator’ while the ever-so-pleasant Mady is kicking her little sister with a vengence!

I watched with great interest this mornina as The Head of one of the leading Fertility Programs in this country made it a point to say that many things must be addressed with regard to the “Octuplets” born last week. He stated that there should be more governing bodies that write rules and regulations. He went on to further state that there has to be more control of ” commercials, book deals & TV Reality Shows”. He said that these types of Media Exposure and the payment that these shows receive have to be “regulated in such a way that they ( Moms having 6 or 8 babies) at once won’t be encouraged!!! The whole thing was extreemly interesting. What he was saying was that shows such as Jon & Kate + 8, and a few others that we see offered, are encouraging women to have multiples to support them. When all of the details pertaining to the Octuplets come to light, with more to come I’m sure, I was once again reminded of the fact that some people will go out of their way to make money!! Absolutely sickning.
As for all of us who see Jon & Kate +8 for exactly what it is. A Money Scam. By speaking up and noting our observations to others who I might add, agree, we are doing those children a service. Someone has to speak up for these otherwise, unrepresented children. So don’t tell us to keep quiet and “don’t watch”…Someone has to.

Has anyone else noticed that Beth, Jodie and a few others have been cut from the show? Wonder what they did? Hmmmmm Sure we get “cattie” every once in a while, but ya gotta have “sugar n spice” with your everything nice”…

sorry the link didnt work. It is actually the tripletconnection.com and just put in a search for Daddyof8.

Found the website fine, but no search engine.

okay. Try this. put in a search for …

ill rest when im dead jon and kate plus 8. then, scroll down page until you see it. it is the last one on the page right now. It says
I’ll rest when I’m dead: count your blessings before your handouts .

When you get to that link, you have to scroll down and check for the post from jonathon. I am really sorry about people not being able to find the links. It is hard to get them to come up. I had to try and try but I did find it. I just think it is fishy when Jon and Kate say things about the volunteers that tried to help and were turned away BY jon and kate and then they still try to ask for help. It looks like the people who came to help were not the right kind of help they were looking for. I dont know.

I hate them, and all of the super breeders out there. When television is through with these people the taxpayers will be footing their bill.

Did anyone notice when Kate and kids did the runs last week on the AM TV shows to comment on the new octuplets, Jon was not on camera? Wonder why?

Also, she keeps discussing the Gosselin “family traditions” with Valentine’s Day, Hallowen, Christmas baking and caroling. She’s only had all those kids a few years. Traditions become traditions over long periods of time. She seems to be trying so hard to make them look like a “normal” family. I feel kinda sorry for her sometimes……but not other times.

I totally agree, Pat, that I hate disliking a little child so mhuch but the more I watch of their older shows the more I truly can’t stand when Mady is around. I find it incredible that some people on here and on some of the other blogs I’ve read think that there is absolutely nothing wrong with her that some one on one with her parents wouldn’t correct. I wholly disagree with all that garbage! I have seen children that are just plain mean-hearted, and I’m telling you she’s truly one of them! yes, her parents should spend more one on one, and yes, she needs some psychological intervention, but first and foremost she needs a good knot jerked in her tail and told point blank ‘Straighten up!!’ She is so rude and plain obnoxious that all they are doing is raising another nasty, hateful individual that, as an adult, no one is going to be able to tolerate. I never realized how bad it really is with her until I went back and started watching the reruns of some of the earlier shows and it is shockingly evident just how horrible she really is when you look back at those episodes. She is so jealous of everyone and everything that she stays miserable! The one where she comes in from school on the twins birthday, throws her bookbag, kicks balloons out of her way and just storms through the door is really a good example. If she were mine and she did that, sorry all you bleeding hearts out there, but I would have followed her right through the house and spanked her on the spot, then I would have made her come back in and pick all the stuff up that she kicked or threw, and she would have spent a good long time in her room until she could behave like a civilized being instead of a spoiled rotten brat, which is what she really is anyway. Instead, Kate again says,’that’s just Mady’, and goes right ahead and throws her a big birthday party with tons of gifts. I know I’m going to catch it from alot of people but she is just one of the worst kids I’ve ever seen and I don’t think adults have to tolerate that kind of behavior. The adults are the bosses, not the kids, and I think she needs to be reminded of that a few times, in the right way, and she’d clean her act up a bit. I, too, am an RN, and I worked Psych for a few years and there is a diagnosis of Personality Disorder, and those patients remind me so much of how she acts. They live to antagonize and anger others and Mady seems bent on doing the same thing. Believe me, if someone doesn’t step up to the plate and address this kid with a heavier hand, litterally and figuratively, she’s going to end up having a terrible life and never be happy. Look at her face in almost every shot of them – if she’s not frowning shes crying. And she cries over the most ridiculous things! Once because ALL of the kids weren’t singing happy birthday to her – GEEZ!! She needs to really have something to cry about. OK, I’m through here! I just needed to vent about Mady – I just watched a bunch of their shows this week and I’ve been steaming over her behavior the whole time. Kate use to bug me, but now I don’t pay any attention to her since Mady’s behavior has become so horrible. I keep saying that I’m going to stop watching, but I keep hoping that someone’s going to get fed up with Mady and put her in her place and I surely don’t want to miss it if it ever happens.

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Kate said in an interview they rolled the dice having the tups and lost, meaning they didn’t want so many kids, just one more. Having said that, she proceeds to exploit them for profit, and in the Utah episode she blags to Jon at the airport no worries, she and Beth already have the Hawaii trip planned, renew their vows, ha ha. Yes, the woman is evil, greed is her master and she is well paid for exploiting her children.

Well, I have finally gotten “ticked off” enough to stop watching J&K +8. Last night I found myself wondering what was going on because they were showing clips of the kids painting the walls of the “New and Imporved Gosselin Castle”. OK, so I started watching. First off I noted that they have a new “Go4″ I can’t remember what his name is but he said at one point that he is going to do all the work around the place. Hmmmm…another freebe for Jon & Kate. Then here comes the truck with her two huge washing machines compliments, I’m sure, of GE. Then there was a new dishwasher because the “old one” didn’t wash the dishes properly. Poor baby…then a new Refrdgerator…All SS, because that’s what she prefers..By her I’m referring to Mdm. Kate. And after all that time she spent cleaning the old one..(the fridge) “That’s just Yucky”..
I can feel my stomach knotting up, so I got up and said “I’ve had enough of you bitch”. I did what I did 4 weeks ago. I turned it off. I promptly came in here to the computer and fired off another complaint to TLC.
I mean “Hello” as our beloved Kate would say. There are people going to food pantry’s and clothes closets at churches to feed and clothe their familys and these greedy people, Mr.&Mrs. Gosselin are living high off the hog. They are prostituting their 8 children so that they can live the life of luxery and not have to work or pay for a damn thing. I’m mad, can you tell?
Another thing I was reminded of last night while I watched. Isin’t it interesting how much Kate Gosselin knows about “other husbands” or “most husbands” they would say, “you choose what you want Honey” when looking for floor tiles…and on and on. She is such a expert on everything. Well, I hope that experise is evident about 15 years from now when her kids are making like the monkey’s in the Wizard of Oz and flying around having all sorts of problems.
I think I’ll continue to write to TLc about the Gosselins and their form of Child Abuse, and I will continue to not watch, because it really turns my stomach..
You know we can come here and rant and rave and sound off, but if we really want to “Make a Difference” on what happens in this “Reality Show”. Do as I did…Stop watching and contact the Producers of the Show. Boycott the Advertisers and let them know it…We in this country are too damn complacient, we sit back and ahhhh, we might say something. We go to sites like this one and sound off. But do we honestly do anything about it? No we don’t . Well, it’s time. These people, if you want to call them that. I prefer Leaches, need a wake-up call.
There I’ve said my piece, but I’ve done something about it too…Oh, did I mention that when I wrote to GE, I informed them that there are many more folks in this country who could use a Washer & Dryer and not the expensive ones either?
I’ll be back, soon, I watch the boards to see what’s happening. But truthfully, I can’t stomach that show any longer…
Irishiis aka Cathy
And JON….GET A JOB!! Show your children that you are a “Responsible Human Being”…

think I’ll continue to write to TLc about the Gosselins and their form of Child Abuse, and I will continue to not watch, because it really turns my stomach..
You know we can come here and rant and rave and sound off, but if we really want to “Make a Difference” on what happens in this “Reality Show”. Do as I did…Stop watching and contact the Producers of the Show.

Cathy: Ive written…and written…and written……and written…oh and did I say…Ive written and not one word of whar would remotely resemble a reply back from TLC.

It isnt that I dont agree with you. Its more that I dont think TLC really gives a rats ass about people like us. Not when they are considering courting Octomom (Kate Jr.) now for a show.

They simply have no conscience.

Whats next? TLC in their never ending quest to give us more “reality” airs an actual death?

Nothing is sacred to them.

Amen to the Mady remarks! I cannot stand that child and think she definitely has the makings of a serial killer. Someone should intervene with that one.

And what exactly were your motives for looking for Octomom’s new house? Surely you weren’t “coveting”

Welcome Cathy, You have pretty much summed it all up. It truly is best to just ignore the driveby bloggers who pop in and out of this site with the intention of only bashing other posters. They never really have anything meaningful to say in defense of Jon and Kate. They are always spouting off hateful comments about people who have differing opinions than they do. Oh, and they always include GOD somewhere in their tirade.
In my opinion, anyone who favors or ignores the exploitation of children is truly the pathetic one.

You know, JRMM’s post sounds exactly like something Kate would post.
I wonder?????????????????
By the way JRMM – None of this affects my personal life, but it does affect 8 innocent children. I totally agree with Cathy and Michele in their responses to you. However, you’ve probably have disappeared with the wind.

It sounds like all of you are a little jealous of Jon and Kate’s life style. Would you rather they lived in a two room shack with eight kids? So they have a new house and and new appliances why are you so jealous of that? I’ve seen a couple of episodes where they have given to charities and have done different things. If they really get on your nerves that much don’t watch it!!! Some of you are right sometimes the kids do get a little irritating and we only see a little part of their lives so how do you think Kate feels? I’m glad she has help and the reason she turned those people away is so her and Jon would know that they can take care of all 8 children on their own. So stop being jealous and quit watching the show if it gets on your nerves that much!!!

Mel,

You said:

“I’m glad she has help and the reason she turned those people away is so her and Jon would know that they can take care of all 8 children on their own.”

Do you really believe they are taking care of all of those kids on their own? What about the organic chef? What about all of those people behind the scenes that come in and help set up and clean-up? And frankly, I d not care where they live….I just don’t care for the attitude that Kate has, when she says things like, “Mine, all mine!” As if they had worked hard all of their lives and earned it…..It all comes down to attitude and work ethic….Kate is very snotty and self-centered…everything is about her; Jon doesn’t work anymore…and he certainly wouldn’t have been able to pay for a 1.3 mil. house with the previous job he had….and they have absolutely no work ethic. Despite EVERYTHING they get from the show, they still receive items from various companies, so they can advertise their wares…With the economy like it is at this point, I think those companies would be better served donating to more charitable organizations that are having trouble keeping their organizations going, than to keep giving Kate and Jon stuff because she is whining!

Some people may be jealous, it’s human nature….but it is very hard to be happy for someone who whines constantly, berates and belittles her husband, and complains that things aren’t being done in a perfect way, or up to her standards….I believe many people out there were initially enthralled with the kids, but the more they watched, the less they could tolerate Kate. It’s hard to think someone is so deserving of the goodness of others, when they are basically not nice people….(Kate is the only one who thinks Kate’s special!)

JRMM~GA said:
February 20, 2009 @ 1:02 pm

I cam across this site trying to look for the Octo-mom’s $1.4M house she was looking at and I find this. It disgusts me how all of you have your input on how Kate acts, how she raises 8 children and how they make their money. Let me ask you this… how does this affect your personal life and your life functions? And all of you have nothing better to do than bash her. She, like everyone else, is a child of God, and WHO ARE YOU to criticize OR pass judgment on her or her family. Maybe if you spend more time focusing your attention on your family and GOD and come to peace with yourselves , her show would not aggravate you as much. You people are pathetic, an I am upset with myself that I took the time to write this blog!!

JRMM~GA Ah, therein lies the problem….it’s NOT Kate’s show! I know Kate likes to believe it’s all about her, and probably rightfully so, but if it’s all about her it’s for all the wrong reasons!

Amen Cheryl and unfortunately, that is how they are raising their children.

Cheryl,

I am truly humbled by who and what you and are…You and your husband are true humanitarians….really GOOD people! You will be in my thoughts and prayers,for some good times to come your way….I’m betting that happiness already abounds in your home, because that comes from the heart…and your family already has heart! May God Bless you ALL! And I really hope TLC and Kate reads this….because Kate needs to realize what she’s got.

Hi, Jodes. Well, in the “Most Embarrassing Moments” Kate was able to review her actions on film. Jen Stocks, one of the producers, asked Kate if she thought maybe she was overreacting or something and Kate said (with a straight face) “No.” She went on to explain that she wouldn’t have to behave that way if she had help. She said “No one helps me!” and that if she had a loving husband he would want to protect her when she goes into crisis mode rather than run away and hide from embarrassment. Every single embarrassing moment from Kate was not Kate’s fault. According to Kate. And she was serious!

LOL

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:[1]

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is “special” and unique
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement
6. is interpersonally exploitative
7. lacks empathy
8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

And the really scary parts are that TLC is toting her as Super Mom, someone to be looked up to and emulated and she is raising eight children to be just like her!

I understand the Gosslins will be on either Dr. Phil or Oprah in the very near future to discuss the octuplet situation. Anyone else hear that?

I hope it’s Oprah. I think Oprah will ask her some tough questions. Phil just sits there and gushes over Kate.

Yuck.

I agreed on the Oprah thing. Have you noticed how O has danced all around the octuplet thing with guests, but hasn’t actually had the mother on…..at least yet?

I caught an old episode of this show, and Kate was SO much different 2 years ago. It was right after her tummy tuck/week in New York/ new haircut. She came home and she seemed so loving to Jon and the kids (all of them, not just Hannah). And I noticed that they didn’t do that love seat interview thing back then, either. Just Jon & Kate, folding laundry on their bed. Being respectful and nice to each other. It was almost surreal.
I really think that money and fame ruins (ordinary) people. I really do! Rachael Ray used to be nice, soft spoken and likeable, once upon a time, before the greed bug bit her, too. Now she’s rude to her fans, rude at book signings, and rude to her talk show staff, from what I’ve read. Sounds like Kate, recently. Especially at her book signings.
What I don’t understand, for the life of me, is why these once-ordinary people feel the need to be rude and selfish to their fans – you know, the people who stand in line for hours, buy their books and watch their shows, and basically line their pockets. I mean, how much does it cost to say hello to someone, or smile at a person, or take a picture with a fan every now and then?
(I’m not talking from personal experience, just from what I’ve read or heard.)
I’m not a fan or a hater of J&K+8 (or Rachael Ray, for that matter). I’m just baffled by greed and how it can completely morph a person into someone totally different.

The reason I thought Oprah might put them on the spot is because when she had them on the show previously she didn’t seem all that warm towards them. At one point, one of the little girls said “Daddy is mean!” because Jon told her to sit down or something, and Oprah said, rather loudly and clearly, “Daddy is NOT mean!” This was right after J&K episode where Kate told Collin, after he was disciplined by Jon, “It’s okay, Collin. Don’t worry about Daddy. Daddy is mean.” I took it that maybe Oprah had seen that, too and was making a point.

Oprah also didn’t give them any luxurious gifts. Kate was talking about how generous Oprah is and how excited she was to meet her, so I bet she was planning on taking home some loot. I read somewhere that Oprah gave each kid a Build A Bear kit and when the staff tried to give it to Kate, she rudely refused because stuffed animals are a pain and just take up much needed space in her house. She allegedly told them to keep it, and walked off.

Yeah, their whole segment on Oprah was about ten or fifteen minutes. Oprah just didn’t seem impressed with Kate, at all. Kate told Oprah that she only got fifteen hours a week of help with the kids. Beth and Jodi were there at the taping, standing in the back. Must have been a slap in the face to all the people who KNOW that Kate gets more help than that. I don’t think she fooled Oprah, though.

Kate has A LOT of help with her children. It might just ber her natural disposition to be a crank, but I think she enjoys controlling and commanding people around her. She seems like a bully, to me. To the kids and to Jon.

And besides, if you watch the show you’ll notice that Jon is responsible for the kids mainly. He does the baths, the teeth brushing, the dressing, the loading and the unloading of the kids and their stuff . . . Kate doesn’t even seem to be home much anymore. She can’t be on all these interviews and still be at home alone with 8 kids, can she?

I just don’t see her doing much normal mom stuff. She’s just into herself now, the show, the mney and all the material things she can accumulate.

You know great minds have a way of getting at the truth. If you look at the comments here by different people you have to come to the conclusion that.
1- Kate Gosselin has gotten to be more and more of a nasty person with each new year of the show. As the children grow older, have minds of their own, and don’t need her as a “hands on care-giver”, she has become ruder, more self-centered and just plain ol nasty. Bitch comes to mind… Could it be that the “little kids have come into their own and Mom is jealous?”..Hmmmm
2- “Jon is responsible for the kids”. He has always been. In the older versions she was too busy cleaning the garage, alphabatizing shoes by color, and just cleaning in general. Anything to avoid actually interacting with her children, when Jon wasn’t doing it. She said last week in the “going back to the house” episode. When a few of the kids approached her she said to Camera or whoever, “I didn’t hear that did you?”. Just plain ignored the kids and kept on moving..
3-Kate is away from home AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BY HER OWN CHOICE. She is not a mother in any sense of the word. She would rather be on the road, staying in nice hotels, and rubbing elbows with the “stars” and making a damn fool of herself. If she only knew how much people disliked her. But she’s way too Narcistic or however you spell it, to care about anyone but herself..It’s “All for Kate, None for all”..Her motto..
Cathy aka Irishiis

Great motto, Cathy!!!!

I am so tired of people who feel sorry for poor, overworked, stressed out Kate. Kate is not poor or overworked. Kate is all about Kate.
Any mother of eight who has the time and money for constant spa visits, visits to the tanning salon, personal trainers and extravagant vacations gets NO pity from me. Any mother of eight who lives in a million dollar home with brand new top of the line appliances, etc. and has a nanny to watch her children, a husband to bathe, dress and play with them, a chef, a cleaning person and someone to do her laundry gets NO pity from me. So, why is Kate stressed??????????????? She is the one who stresses everyone else including her adorable, healthy children.

Good points, Valerie…Think Kate is EVER going to get it?

Vrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooommmmmmmmmmm….Another drive-by.. Sweetie, go take some Grammer classes and find out how to write while you’re at it.
Cathy aka Irishiis

484. mully said:
March 11, 2009 @ 8:49 am

YOUR

YOU’RE

There’s a difference.

Don’t forget…

ITS

IT’S

THERE

THEIR

THEY’RE

TOWARD NOT TOWARDS

ME, MYSELF, I

OOOOOOOOOHHHHH…don’t get me started, right ladies?

One more…

THE

The car won’t start. (pronounced “the” when the following word begins with a consonant).

The apple is red. (pronounced “thee” when the following word begins with a vowel).

Now if only we could get Jon to speak nicely to his children, instead of barking one-word commands at them. Wouldn’t that be nice?

I actually pick Patty. Patty can you proof read my next paper:)

Cathy, I hate to burst your bubble, but Kate used the word obsessiveish on the last episode. LOL

Missy, we comment on many things that matter -including the economy.
It is truly amazing how in this economy, the G’s can afford a million dollar home when they haven’t even sold their last home and can afford top of the line appliances and all new furniture. The poor, poor Gosselins.
By the way, why are you looking for more information on rumors regarding Jon. What exactly are you trying to accomplish.
Missy, Take your own advice – If you can’t stand this blog “so badly”, don’t read it – better yet, don’t comment on it.

Pat, I think they bought the house, but all the appliances and furniture were free gifts. I honestly don’t know. Either way, it just sickens me that with so many good, hardworking people struggling right now that the G’s are on easy street.

489. missy said:
March 11, 2009 @ 10:42 am

I actually pick Patty. Patty can you proof read my next paper:)

I would be more than happy to help you out. You could email it to me and I’ll fix ‘er up for you! In fact, right now I’m doing a little “proofing” myself. I am in medical transcription school. I am in the process of transcribing 639 files before I can take the final exam. I’ve already done 469 files. I am too tired to do the math right now to tell you how many I have left to do.

But seriously, I would be happy to proof anything for anybody. You all know what a stickler I am about grammar, right?

Let me know.

patty I’m doing my paper on ASD, atrial septal defect. when I complete my work….I will definitely have you help me…Even though we have different opinions on the Gosselin crew:)
My high school was terrible about teaching us the “elementary grammar”! I have tried to teach myself however it is hard to learn basic grammar! I have my talents in other areas:) Thanks missy<

Missy: We kinda have a rule here and maybe its been awhile so it needs to be repeated….NO BASHING OF THE KIDS!

They are truly the innocents in this mess and while I realize we all have our favorites and Mady can be hard to love at times, the fact remains that these 8 children are caught up in something that all of us honestly and truly care about. We dont want to see their young lives hurt any longer and certainly not in the future by what seems to be their mother’s insistence on the almighty dollar AND at the cost of their innocence, privacy, and need for a normal home life as every child should be entitled to.

Missy, First of all, you can’t click on my name – so, I don’t really know what you are referring to. Next, I’m glad that Patty is going to help you with your paper. You couldn’t find a better person for the job. Last, I have never bashed any of the kids. I did say that Hannah is my least favorite and has an attitude, but that’s it. In fact, Kate is the one who bashes her own kids on national TV. Yes, I raised two boys. One died 7 years ago. My remaining son is 30 yrs. old.

I’m sorry for the confusion, on my part…i guess i clicked on jessica??? I don’t know, it was late, I just read more meaningful blogs. I was glad to see:) Sorry to hear about your son.
I don’t know what i would do if I lost one of my children!
I’m not too interested in this blog any longer but now I think this is kinda neat, getting to know all these experts in Enlish! This must be a divine appointment for me….Especially because i really will be starting a paper soon:) And Mully worked with a cardiologist and is a English major! THis is awesome:) I’m excited now…
I still can’t agree with all the comments on kate..she is just adjusting to a different lifestyle. We all need some adjusting, she is enjoying herself..you know the tan, new york trips, and spas. I don’t think that is all that bad…I can tell you, any chance i get to have ME time, I take it! She is just getting to do more because she has money now. YEA for Kate… And yes people maybe not you have criticized these children!
I think

I have three children 3,2,1. I still watch the show…when i have time. What is the new table for 12? I’ve seen it on the commercials but haven’t really payed too much attention???

Cathy, I’m sorry i made all you teeth hurt today:) I have my pet peeves but obviously not on the grammar:)

Missy, not only will you meet experts in English, but you’ll find great recipes, makeup tips, etc. There are some really great people who post here and on similar forums within The Imperfect Parent blogs.

506. Cathy Carroll said:
March 11, 2009 @ 8:07 pm

OK all you “Katelovers”. She and the 8 were on a “spot-shot” this evening on Access Hollywood with Debra Norville. Seems People Magazine is coming out with a story about the “G’s” and the fact that everything is not Rosey around their house. I think from what I could see in the title is something with not cheating on his wife. However, Debra did say that Kate said ” We are experiencing some problems in our marriage at the present time.” She went on to say that “they have experienced these types of problems before and have gotten over them”…Hmmmmm guess again, we were all right about trouble in paradise…
She looked like hell too and Jon was not in the picture. It was a live clip from another shoot I think..
OK, Valerie and Missy you can get on with your “smoochfest” not….
Cathy aka Irishiis…

Well, I wouldn’t call myself a *Kate lover*, but if this is true, it’s really very sad. What’s even sadder to me…all the people that will jump for joy over this news.

This is info I found about the Star Magazine article about Jon’s running around with co-eds.

Every man needs an occasional break from his wife and kids. And when you have sextuplets, twins and a wife like Kate Gosselin, odds are you really need some time off. Reality TV dad Jon Gosselin apparently agrees. According to Star Magazine, the “Jon and Kate Plus 8″ star was recently seen partying with some college cuties.

Gosselin, 31, reportedly showed up — uninvited — at a bash thrown by Juniata College seniors Erin Albert and Mariel Little last month, and played beer pong with members of the women’s volleyball team. Juniata is in Huntingdon, PA, where Gosselin’s mom lives.

So this is kind of like being in back in college, except for the part about how he’s married and has eight kids. And has a television show about his life.

What to make of this? On the one hand, partying with a group of female college athletes is an incredibly stupid thing for a 31-year-old man to do, regardless of who he is. But Jon Gosselin is a fairly famous guy — even more so in the town where his family lives. To expect that no one was going to notice him wandering into this party, and picking up a ping-pong paddle, is totally naive. Dude!

On the other hand, maybe the guy just needed to get out and blow off some steam. My husband goes to happy hour about once a month, just to unwind and have a break from work and home. Of course, he’s usually out with other guys from the office, not playing drinking games with 20-year-old college coeds. But the idea is the same. Or not.

Cathy, What smoochfest are you talking about exactly? Missy hasn’t changed my mind about a blessed thing.

Valerie: I was being sarcastic about the “smoochfest” you and Missy seemed to be going back n forth. That’s all. I meant no harm.
Janett: I think you have to be from the Eastern part of the country and espically Pa. to understand the pronunciation of “Our” “Are”. When it comes out they both sound like “are”…

As for the Gosselin’s having marital problems. Well, folks you can only treat a man like “trash” and accuse him of taking up too much air, for so long. Then he’s going to adopt the attitude that he might as well do something to deserve this treatment. If you ask me, Kate has driven Jon to do some of the things he has. He’s not the sharpest tack in the drawer and concequently made some bad choices, but I can’t blame the guy.

I think someone else pointed out that neither of them are capable of looking into themselves to find error or blame. So will they “mend” their ways? NOPE!!! This whole fiasco will only give Kate more ammo to fire at Jon and really treat him like dirt, if that’s possible. She will take everything out on the kids like she normally does. Jon will come back from his Moms with his tail between his legs, head down and be ready to take Kates medicine.

The children will suffer greatly because all of this will only add more stress and grief to their little lives. I wish to God that the state of Pa. would step in and make some laws to protect these children. They didn’t ask to be brought into this world, and they sure as hell don’t deserve what’s happening to them!!! I’d just love to get in my car and drive up there and get all of em, bring them down here and show them what life is really all about…No stress, No worry, No red spoon…Kate Gosselin doesn’t deserve to have those children. All they are to her are little $$$$ signs…
Cathy aka Irishiis..
Anyone got a fool-proof recepie for Irish Soda Bread?

I am from the Northeast and didn’t realize that I pronounce OUR the same as Kate does until it was mentioned on this blog some time ago. It is just a regional thing. If I were writing it down, I would spell it OUR. We know the difference, we just pronounce it differently. No big deal.

Pat, I tend to agree. We can all spot grammatical errors and spelling errors. Who really cares. We aren’t writing term papers.
Heck, I can always find my errors after I already hit the submit button.

Yes, Kate makes up her own vocabulary. I wouldn’t even mind that so much if she didn’t constantly correct Jon.

I feel so sorry for those children if the G’s marriage does fall apart. Afterall, Jon and Kate stressed and stressed how they would be together forever before, during and after the renewal ceremony.
If they split, why would the kids ever trust or believe them ever again.

Pat Schmidt
Maybe I missed it, but I don’t see where I associated my grammar post complaining about pronunciation with either bad parenting or morals, but if it made you feel better to attack and sound off, then you go girl!

Pat Schmidt said:
March 12, 2009 @ 8:14 pm

I suppose you misread what I said Janett or at least what I meant. I was stating my feelings. I DON’T care about grammar or pronunciation. I don’t see where either has much to do with the kids quality of life. What I do care about is the parenting those children are receiving and how being under a microscope is effecting their quality of life. I think sometimes we tend to get nit picky about things that aren’t really important.

I would cut those 2 con artists all kinds of slack, it they, Kate especially, was just pleasant. The bottom line is, these two are not what I’d refer to as neat (as in cool) people to hang out with. I mean, if I was 30 something, married (or not) and knew Kate’s history of tossing family and friends aside, there’s no way I could or would want to be friends with her. I’d be curious to know if she has always been like that. Did she have friends in h.s. and nsg. school that have remained friends? If she does, was it only because they were no “threat” to her like Jodi and Beth were?

Another question. Jennie, the baby sitter, was she the young girl Kate hired when she was doing her search for a nanny? How long was she w/the Gosselins?

They seem to go through people the way most of us go through toilet paper. I wonder if they are able to convince themselves that it’s always the fault of the other person.

why you all hating on kate its not fair to her love the show john and kate.

Spring break is already upon us . . .

hey pat by the way, I married into a family with the last name schmidt! I wonder if we could be related!

Missy, my husband’s family was all from Southern Ohio and Northern Kentucky. I guess Germany but a long way back.

Mikki,

How unfair of you to judge us. You know nothing about anyone that blogs on this site, but still you comment we don’t have a life. So in turn, you just contradicted yourself. Most everyone on here is intelligent and have valid points, which they are free to express. Take your own advice and don’t read what is written here. Oh, and Mikki, its a FREE world!!

What a great life you must have, Mikki. You googled Jon and Kate for a specific reason – How exactly does that fit into your wonderful life?
You even took the time to comment on this blog. Take your own advice.
If you don’t like what you read here – DON’T READ IT and certainly don’t waste your precious time COMMENTING ON IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Afterall, you have more important things to do with your time.
You see, I am a very busy person also. However, I manage my time very well and if I want to watch Jon and Kate and then comment on it, I don’t need your blessing or permission. Thank You Very Much.

It is amazing to me how many people will comment on a blog without reading the “blog” first.

According to “mikki,” we should be discussing anything other than the subject of this blog.

I never thought of that.

Ashley, I only gave birth to three children but we adopted one and over a period of 25 years I fostered 132 children, very ofter having as many as 10 children at one time. They weren’t screaming all the time, my husband and I are very calm people and our children and foster children were also very calm, the attitude seems to rub off! We did a lot with our kids, paying for all of it, not expecting a handout because we were doing a good thing with our kids and foster kids. We were and continue to be, active in several charitable organizations because I felt it important for our child, both natural and foster, to give back to society since they had received so much. For example, we have fostered children through World Vision for years and our kids helped pay for one of those kids with money they made from part-time jobs and allowance. To whom much is given, much is expected. We did it because we were committed to the charity, not because the footage would make a good tv program! You seem to be accusing us of not doing our research and yet you accuse us without knowing anything about us. Now you know a little about me, have at it! Incidentally, many of the kids we parented over the years still call us Mom and Dad, bring their spouses and children to visit. We put them through college long after the state stopped paying what was only a percentage of what it cost to raise a child. They came home for the summers after they had aged out of the program. We were and continue to be their family. And the family we made has little resemblance to the Gosselins family and that makes me very sad for eight children.

I love how they always just “happened” upon us….you’d think the drive bys would have a clue based on the name of our blog, before they clicked. There’re just some uber fans, they’ll run back to their sites and report on the latest info they gleaned here! I’m starting to just ignore them. Honestly, I can’t recall ever seeing one of the followers on here who could write a grammatically correct sentence, much less spelling and punctuation! I think they all are perhaps a bit on the slow side.

Hey mully,
If you’re going to give Ashley grammar lessons, then you should learn how to spell a lot! It is two words instead of one. Just thought you might want to know

I initially thought this show was so cute and marvelled at how she scrimped coupons and tried to stretch things to make it on one income. I have grown to wonder how they went from this to going to renew vows in Hawaii and now to this huge house and tonight in their season finale, it is obvious that Jon is no longer enjoying this attention and charity where she has made it clear she wishes to continue this disgusting exhibition of her children for profit. It is painfully obvious that this has become a focal point of interest and income for this family and while she parades around insisting she is doing everything for the sake of her kids being exposed to as much of life experience as possible, I think it is sad for the kids and for her poor spineless husband who has lost his pride and privacy. Anyways from the blogs out there, I am not alone in my disdain for this woman and wish they would x the show once and for all and send her back to reality where she is cutting coupons like the rest of us. I am sure none of this is reaching her or her silly hairdo.

I am neither envious nor am I blind to the fact that Kate is apparently willing to risk her marriage for the sake of the big house, “fame” or is it noteriety(hey, mully, how do I spell that anyway?), and the peace and well being of her children.

I did watch the last episode because the remarks by Jon were so publicized. But, as a rule, I don’t watch anymore. This business of selling children for profit disgusts me!

Pat

Hi all – Long time since I wrote but just had to send my kudos out to Cathy and Pat – I just love you guys!! Wish I had you for neighbors!!! I told you guys awhile back – Jon is going to get the kids, head for Hawaii, swing with the Hula girls that all the kids loved and live happily ever after. Kate??? Uh, Kate who??? In a few years none of us will remember her at all, but I betcha Jon and the kids will still be great fodder for the paparazzi! I have no doubt that they are not going to be together for much longer &, contrary to previous blogs, I don’t think any of us will jump for joy over it because of the repercussions for the kids. I’m not sure, though, that if Jon got the kids they wouldn’t be better off without Kate even in the picture.
Also, I’ve read way back on here to get updated on things and I have NO doubt that some of these ‘drive-by’s’ and a few other comments are, in fact, Kate or one of her henchmen. I really believe she is reading and commenting incognito. I’ve read too many things on here and then seen the same things changed on future shows to believe that she is not monitoring what’s being said on here. Mady has been shown ALOT less since all the comments that I, and others, have made about her behavior and she has been much more attentive to the boys after comments were made about her ignoring them, so I can’t help but think she’s picking up on all of this.
If they are truly contemplating divorce, I’m sure I speak for everyone on here when I say how sad a thing for those children that would be, however, there would still be some ‘up’ side to it for Jon and the kids in the long run. Most of us agree she is no mother to those kids, so I’m not sure her absence in their lives would be such a tragedy. There are some great step-mom’s/dad’s out there, so they might just end up in a better situation. Who knows??? It really wouldn’t surprise me if it’s true, though. I don’t think either one of them care that much for the other, to tell the truth, so why would they stay together??? Unless, of course, for the kids, since everything they do is for them, anyway, right????? Tune in next season. We’ll see, I guess!!!

Pat you have said everything that I try to say and very well I might add.

The fact that “Kate” thinks that she is doing well, and doing what’s in the interest of her children is so sad. She truly does need counseling. SHAME ON TLC, for not trying to get her to stop her horrible behavior. Remember when the Producer, a woman, used to ask questions during the “sit down sessions?”. It was almost as though she was “baiting” Kate. She knew the answers that she would get, but yet, she would ask them just the same, knowing that Kate would give her a answer that wouldn’t necessarily endear her to “her public”.

I just think I’m going to go back to not watching and boycotting the advitizers. That seems to be the only way to get a message across. Robyn thanks for the cudos, but honestly I write from the heart when it’s about those children. What Kate does is child abuse. No two ways about it, and for that I say “No More”…
Irishiis aka Cathy

I think that Kate’s unrelenting abuse of Jon is going to result in some very serious depression. She completely humiliates and emasculates him and she absolutely delights in it. How much can anyone take? What dysfunction to model for those kids.

Grace, As Pat said, there are different kinds of “child abuse”.

I worked for years in a Emergency Room and saw my share of “child abuse”. The kinds where a child would be brought in being 5-10 lbs. underweight, with matted hair, and bruises all over their little bodies. Believe me, those sights stay with you for a lifetime. In Kate’s case, she is so self-absorbed and narcisistic that she totally misses the mark in motherhood. She never demonstrates any affection to all of them. When was the last time you saw her hug Maddy? Can you name a time that you have seen her kiss the kids? How about a big ol Family Hug? We still do it in my family and my oldest is 45 and youngest is 36!!!! The Grandkids get in on it now and it’s really a Group Hug!!! My point is that she has let camera’s invade every space of thier little lives. Who cares what the “poop” looks like. Who, of any of us, has a picutre of our kids first poop in the potty? Can you picture these kids in HS and someone finds a picture of Collin on the potty in the dark, and shows it to all the guys in the locker room? How many times have you heard anyone in that family say “I love you”. In my world every conversation on the phone with my kids ends with I love you from the child and Mom or Dad. It’s just part of life.

There are many other instances that I could site where Kate drops the ball as far as parenting goes. But IMHO, she is a child abuser to satisfy her own greed.

Pat Schmidt, I think you meant to address Grace and not me, but that’s OK my middle name is Grace…Who knew?

Have a good day everyone, it’s raining here again on the E. Coast…”The flowers that bloom in the spring Tra Laaaaaa…”

Irishiis aka Cathy

Roslyn said:

You people are just envious. Let Jon and Kate live the life they chose. It’s not your business or mine.

From the February 2, 2009 Larry King show. (again)…
Kate: “Well, with our reality show, obviously, we put them out there. And, you know, our goal in our show is to show the real life of what it is like to have two sets of multiples. And basically, essentially, we’ve made it your business.”

Her words, not mine. I guess you must have missed that one.

The “jealousy” thing really starts to wear thin. The two can live whatever life they choose. However, when children are involved, and the parents live their lives through their children for fame and profit, then it becomes the business of people who care. Heaven help us if we, as a nation, ever become so apathetic to the world around us that we stop caring.

I think that all of the devoted fans of Kate are the ones who are truly jealous. They just love her and wish they could be her. If I were to be jealous of someone, it would be someone that I wished I was more like not the other way around.

544. Roslyn said:
March 24, 2009 @ 3:08 am

You people are just envious. Let Jon and Kate live the life they chose. It’s not your business or mine. Jealousy will get you no where and you are just as bad as them for posting nasty comments about them. Your obvious envy shows through and through. Get over it.

I tend to agree with this commment. I think nastiness, snark, hate on Kate are all derivatives of jealousy. Think about it…why even mention all this against Kate if you’re not jealous? If not jealous, it wouldn’t bother you so much.

I happen to like Kate. Or, I should say, she doesn’t bother me. I realize everyone parents their children differently. No Valerie, I don’t want to be like her, nor want her as a bff. I just enjoy watching the show and I think she and Jon are decent parents.

Okay…disappearing now. But, before I go, Happy Easter to Mully and the Gang. I hope you ladies are all doing well.

TP

Kate is just plain annoying and I do like some reality shows.But for some reason I can’t watch this all the time because I can’t get through one full episode of her not being self-centered or making some sort of comment. I recently saw an episode with their new home and they went out to get puppies. She wasn’t interested in the puppies in the least. Then why bother getting them, just for the kids? She also treats the camera crew like crap. Don’t have a reality TV show then!

I really don’t know what it will take to get our point across to some of you people. We, and I think I speak for most of us who are sickened by Kate, are concerned about the Gosselin children and the way they are being raised. I could care less about Jon & Kate Gosselin and their “needs”. They are the most greedy, selfish people on the face of this earth. They are making a living off of the backs of their children. I have no doubt that feeding and clothing for the “8″ is expensive as hell. But look over that and see the “trips”, Spa treatments, clothing, tummy tucks, hair plugs, the list goes on and on. Do you want to tell me that these things are necessary to be a “good parent”? C’mon, give me a break.

Last night there was nothing on that I really cared much about watching so I watched a re-run of the day that they took the kids to the “new house”. The one where she spent the whole day cleaning the refrigerator. She said things about the previous owner that were absolutely unnecessary!! “Filth, nasty, haden’t been cleaned in 10 years”. She went on and on all the while trying to locate Jon so that he could wipe the rear’s of two children who were hollering from two different bathrooms in the new house. Finally one of the other kids located the children needing rear-end cleaning and came and told her. Her reply? “Well, too bad, they will have to wait till Daddy comes in to do it, I’m busy”. Honestly, do you think that she should get “Mom of the Year Award” for that one? That’s the point we’re are trying to bring out here. It’s not a matter of watching or not watching. The kids are cute, but Kate is a horrible, self-centered bitch. She could not give a damn about those children. She cares only about one person and that is herself..Simple.

So weather or not we watch is not the issue, it’s the lives of those children that matter to me. I think TLC and Kate & Jon should be hung out to dry, simple as that…You mark my words, those kids are going to grow up to be severly dysfunctional and that’s sad, because it could be avoided. It won’t be avoided though because Mom and Dad and TLC are too busy making money.. How hard is that to realize?

Have a good day all,
Cathy aka irishiis

First going back to Terri’s remarks, I think you have to admire something to be jealous and I don’t admire anything about the Gosselins so I think that lets me out there. Like the Gosselins, I have an over grown house, 5 bedrooms, 3 1/2 baths, 10 rooms and since my kids have all grown I will sell it just as soon as the market straightens up! So I have no need to be jealous of stuff, I have all the stuff anyone in their right mind could want.

About child abuse Terri, child abuse comes in many different forms and it doesn’t all leave visable bruises. Child abuse could be degrading the male parent in front of his sons so that they grow up with a poor personal self image. Or perhaps degrading the male parent within the hearing of the daughters so they don’t develop the image they need of their father to become well rounded. We learned a long time ago that it wasn’t so much the abuse that children remembered but what was said to them during the abuse that they remembered. With that being the case the Gosselin children can’t help but remember their mother as a screamer!

Momof3 I agree that it is incredibly expensive to raise children now. I thank God we were able to raise our four without the need to have them in daycare. But the fact is that Jon and Kate did work, around each others schedules, without the need to compromise the children by televising every moment of their young lives. I not only raised my four kids but I also fostered over 100 children over a period of 36 years. If you think what the county paid us covered their bills you are wrong! I learned to shop carefully, hit the sales, sew, knit, in every way replicate the classy styles the kids classmates where wearing and not one of them felt they were dressed any less “cool” than their friends. You can do it, it’s a lot of work, but possible.

Also, I hate to bring up the obvious but when Jon and Kate decided to try for another “one” they knew going in how many eggs she had. This is not something that is done by chance. They knew, going in, that the chances were they were not going to end up with just one. The people of Pennsylvania paid for those children’s medical bills for the first couple months. I haven’t seen the Gosselins offering to pay back what was given to them.

Okay, I feel better now.I am not watching TLC anymore as a matter of principle. I think their programming encourages the kinds crazy families we see with the Octuplets and other multiples. The only children I’ve seen on TLC that make sense and are worth watching are the identical quads from South Carolina. They are darling and truly a miracle of God! Maybe if TLC puts another special on about them I’ll watch it! They are incredibly cute and those parents seem to have it all together!

Pat

PHEW! Thanks for the clarification Stacey!!!

It didnt sound right at all.

No wander their families want Nothing to do with them. THEIR USER’S

Yes, they are users and that rhymes with “Loosers”…seems to work for me.

Cathy

Settle down Ed, don’t have a heart attack! I would hope, as more and more of us stop watching TLC and let the sponsors know why, they will drop the show and just maybe their lives will return to some sort of normal.

TerriPaul, Like I said – You have to want to be like someone in order to be jealous of them. You have to want what they have in order to be jealous of them. I DON’T WANT TO BE LIKE KATE AND I DON’T WANT ANYTHING THEY HAVE. THEREFORE, I AM NOT JEALOUS OF THEM.
Maybe you are not jealous of them either, but how anyone can like Kate is beyond me. What do you like about her? I am really curious that maybe I am missing some endearing qualities.

Momof3,Yup, it is expensive to raise 8 children. They need food, clothing, shelter and a college fund. Jon and Kate have well exceeded being able to provide for their family without having to do an honest day’s work. How do overly expensive vacations, spa trips, teeth whitenings, hair plugs, etc. etc. fit into this picture. So, would you do what they are doing for all these extras? You also stated that it is difficult for 8 kids to behave perfectly when there are a bunch of strangers pointing cameras at them. Do you hear yourself?????? No children should be subjected to that in the first place. Jon and Kate are using their children for financial gain above and beyond what they need to support them. It’s as simple as that.

Isn’t it interesting that all the Kate lovers write like a grade school child and are not at all concerned about the welfare of the kids. Maybe that is because they are children themselves and don’t know any better! To clarify a few things Miss Whatever your name is, I don’t hate Kate, Jon or any other person. As a matter of fact I feel incredibly sorry for both of them, they are obviously not happy people. I also feel sorry for their children who are having their childhoods invaded and don’t have anything to say about it. By contrast I offer up the Dilley sextuplets, those kids are about 15 now, have been raised with minimal intrusion into their everyday life. Media visits have been limited to one or two a year and now that they are older it’s more or less their decision about whether they do the interviews or not. I have great admiration for their parents who have struggled to raise their kids but seem to have come out with six well rounded teens and the parents marriage is intact. Compare that to what the Gosselins have accomplished. Stuff doesn’t ensure happiness. Maybe that is the lesson of Jon and Kate plus 8!

Hi all~
Has anyone heard/read whether or not the ‘Greedy Bunch’ are coming back for another season? Just wondering. since they made such a pronounced attempt at drama on their last show of the season. I still think it was a feeble attempt at a publicity stunt, even though Jon might well be tired of the lack of privacy they’ve brought on themselves and the kids. I haven’t heard anything lately about their plans for a next season and I thought maybe someone else on here might have. They seem to be laying kind of low lately, so maybe they really are paying attention to what people are trying to tell them about giving those children some sense of normalcy. Just wanted to know the latest – Thanks! Robyn

You expected anything different? Kate is not about to give up her “lifestyle”, for Jon the kids or anyone else…

Have a good weekend..
Cathy

In response to Robyn:

My “take” on Jon running around with another woman or women is that he was too young when he married Kate. That said, she then proceeded to whip him like a dog. I mean you only have to watch one show and you can tell that he’s whipped on a daily basis. As far as Kate is concerned he is there to serve her and nothing else. I’ll bet they haven’t had any “relationship” since the tups were born or shortly there-after. It’s obvious that Jon is not happy with the “family” situation and the show. Good Lord, he all but shouted from the rafters that he didn’t want to continue the show. All Kate could say was that “she was happy”…Well one could surmize that she is happy with the way Jon is conducting himself. She could care less if he’s running around. That way she doesn’t have to be bothered by Jon. One less thing to “deal with” in her busy schedule.
Also, if he’s the one who cheats, she comes out looking like the “injured party”..”He committed adultry”..I can just see it now..
“You ruined our family life Jon”. “Why did you do that Jon”. “I spacifically told you not to do that Jon, and you went right out and did it Jon”…on and on..

So long story short..My “take”
Jon and Kate will be history as far as the marriage goes.
Kate will continue the show as a “single parent of 8″.
Hey, it plays right into the lifestyles of many, many other families today..Sad but true..

Can you say “Kate + 8″.. That’s my take.

Cathy

OMG Cathy you said it all that’s EXACTLY whats gonna happen now she’s the victim you hit the nail on the head with every word you said I couldn’t have said it better Good Going Cathy!!!

Just like any show the tabloids have to pick up on any juicy gossip they can find to sell their papers. Yes, maybe Jon went out with his friend (who happened to be a girl) yes men and women can be friends without being romantic or having sex. People can be so blind sided. It takes a great deal of money to raise kids and if you can get a few good trips and perks out of it more power to you. We can all see that those kids are well cared for and loved. Too many people jealous and sticking their noses where they don’t belong. This is a good show and family friendly. God knows there is not very many decent shows on television. Frankly I get tired of watching depressing detective and doctor shows.

Just my opinion and everyone is welcome to theirs.

I really liked the show when it first aired but with each show it was plain to see that Kate was doing this for herself, not for her children. Everytime I see Mady throw a hissie fit I want to take her in my arms and hug her. She is so starved for love and atention. As for the little kids where on earth do children that young learn to be so mean to one another? Kate needs to forget about getting all prettied up for tv and start paying attention to her children. Jon on the other hand is a good dad but he needs some backbone. I don’t think was he did was right, but living with Kate would push any man to another woman. TLC forget your ratings and take this show off the air. Let those kids live normal lives.

I don’t know I’m just sick and tired of hearing about Kate & Jon and their eight soon to be, “little problems”. The whole idea of me “blogging or posting” on these sites was to express my concerns for the 8 children. IMO, they are growing up in a “bio-hazard” type of exhistance. I’m not a perfect speller or writer, but my main concern always has been the children.

Jon & Kate can drop off the face of the earth as far as I’m concerned. I don’t care if Jon is cheating on Kate and with whom. I don’t watch all the “shows” when she makes her “rounds” to hawk books or whatever she is up to. I think it would be funny if they both contracted STD’s and had to curtail their activities.

Am I jealous? Some would say that I am, but no I’m not jealous. I worry about those children. I don’t think that they will grow up to be “stable adults”. Just take a look at Maddy and her behaviour. That child is a mess. Cara on the other hand, is very quiet and deep. That is frightning too. The “Tups”…Wow, just watch them. From the beginning of the show they struck and smacked and hit and cried endlessly. Now, nearly five years later…Still the same type of activity. As I stated it worries me.

I want only for the kids to be safe and there be some sort of intervention on their behalf. I don’t want to see them split up or seperated and sent to “foster homes”. I think that their mother could do a much better job with all the help from Jon that she could get. That said, there needs to be some changes made..Maybe the show should end NOW they should move back into a smaller house. They don’t need that big house. I’m just getting upset again..But I think you all get my “drift”..

End the Gosselin Horror Show Now…

Cathy

I’m not sure how Kate can say that she is hesitant to believe her husband is having an affair. He readily admits to being friends with the 23-year old teacher. I’m married, and I can tell you right now that if I found out my husband, only a few years older than Jon, had befriended a 23-year old woman that he only admitted to after the story came out, I would know that he had an affair. It just doesn’t add up. Between a wife and 8 kids, I’m sure his personal time is quite limited. Why would he cultivate a new “friendship” with a woman so much younger, instead of spending time with other old friends and family that he knows. I’ve only got 3 kids and I barely have time to see friends I’ve had my whole life, let alone make new ones.

I am so done with this family. It is a farce. The marriage is over and they are making pretenses so the show can continue which = the money coming in. Jon and Kate started off with the best of intentions but have obviously lost there way. Kate was on Rachael Ray the other day and Rachael who also had husband cheating allegations along the way has laughed it off. I didn’t see Kate doing that or Rachael (who has in the past with other guests). They need to take this situation off the airways and work on it privately as Kate claims. This show needs to be shut down for the charade it obviously is. If you had enough,please do not watch the 5th season premiere which air on May 25th. They cannot survive without viewers. If you had enough, do not watch. Hopefully this will end this trainwreck of a situation.

594. Sheila said:
May 17, 2009 @ 7:44 pm

wow are we an angry gay man?

Who’s she talking to?

This show should be changed to “All About Kate”. Or “Jon & Kate plus 7 and Bratty Maddie. Kate is not the hottie she thinks she is. She is a 34 year old “aging” mother, not the mother of the year. Jon & Kate are very greedy for “Free” stuff. Look who’s suffering, the kids. At the party when Leah, or Alexis said “Don’t go away again daddy”. SO-O-O sad!! When watching the last episode, Kate looked like a traffic cop!! Directing everyone, telling everyone where to go and what to do. What a “LOON”. Good luck to this crazy family. There are getting rich by exploiting their kids. Wait till they grow up and see videos of themselves sitting beside their poop!! How sick is that?? They keep saying how happy the kids are, oh please, they are not happy campers. The episode where they were getting solar heat, Kate was so nasty to that crew, she should have been slapped. Then she turns around and brings them cookies. Wow, what a train wreck!! Those poor kids. The CPS should evaluate this crazy family.

Michele, I do know that Jon was let go from his job because of the expense of sextuplets, and something to do with insurance. When he met Kate, he admitted he was not doing anything, not working, just hanging out and having fun. He was 20. It’s true about Kate’s brother. You can do a search for “Kevin Kreider” and he and Jodi talk about it on a video.

Who could live in the same town as Kate and like her??? If you noticed the 5 year olds party, no Aunt Jodi, Uncle Kevin, Beth Carson and children, grandparents from either side, Nana Janet, etc. They have given up all of these people for the almight $$$$$$$

OMG: I’m sure most of you saw Monday’s season kick-off episode. I’m e mailing TLC directly. I never saw such a sad show!

Did anyone notice at no time did Kate take serious responsibility for her overpowering issues? Jon looked like a beaten dog, still afraid (or having trouble expressing his true feelings)

This is NOT the show we used to enjoy or I think they originally signed up for. If it’s supposed to be a depiction of a real family “reality” show, I can get that reality frankly by visiting my own disfunctional family and 80% of my friends. If it’s going to be a show about 2 separate parents raising kids ditto and .

In any case Monday’s show was not just sad….it actually hurt to even watch and why should we expose ourselves to that stuff!

I didn’t watch the show either…I occasionally watch the early reruns, but that’s it….Linda Miller said about Monday’s premiere for the 5th season: “….watch and why should we expose ourselves to that stuff!” Just think about those poor kids…they’re ALWAYS exposed to this mess…and what a mess it is! When is someone going to step in and help these kids?

Oh come on now! After several seasons of watching Kare emasculate Jon on TV, what do you expect?

Kayli, You sound as though you are referring to Kate as the poor victim. She is just as responsibe for the failure of their marriage as Jon. I agree that Jon should never have done what he did, but I think the marriage was over long before that anyway. Kate will continue the show for as long as TLC wants her and to hell with Jon and the kids.

I hope they get counseling and make it work. They are not the first people to stray and it can be fixed. Why does everyone have to be so negative??? It takes a great deal of money to raise 8 kids. Yes, Kate can be nicer but it is a hectic life and it has to be ran organized or it will be a disaster. I agree Jon needs to get a job he is bored and tired of being at home with the kids all the time. He made his bed grow up and raise those kids and keep your family together for at least another 13 years until they are of age. I got married young and had my kids and raised them with their father and then divorced. It was not always pleasant but I made my bed and follow through. The kids are old enough now that they can have go to day camps or whatever. It will be good for all when they go to school all day. That would give Jon and Kate time to go to counseling. I guess if the house is big enough they can each have their own wings if it does not work out. I hope they work it out. I do not think that the children are abused they are made to mind. Othe parents need to take lessons on making their children mind. The twins can take some responsibility helping with the little kids. It does not hurt them a bit.

I think the majority of the abuse comes from have a camera record your most private moments. Jon found it uncomfortable, as an adult with, hopefully adult coping skills. Although I suppose this latest affair was a coping skill and that wasn’t very adult. You can see how Mady is coping, by venting her anger on the little kids. The others will find their ways of coping and most of them won’t be healthy.

Kate has brought much of the present problems on herself but I still think Jon needs to be thrashed. How could he even consider dragging his family through the tabloids knowing that it would be devastating to the children. To think that the kids aren’t going to be touched by all of this is crazy! Also, a question, do they have monster birthday parties for the twins? I don’t watch as much as you all do and have stopped watching tlc all together as they seem to be ruining these children’s lives for their own financial gain so I don’t know. But if they don’t it seems a huge show of favoritisim (sp?) to me.

And by the way, I don’t believe that taking care of the kids should be all Jon’s job. But, since he is a stay at home dad and Kate was away, it was his job to be with the kids rather than running around with a floosy and certainly not bringing her home to share with the kids!

i want to say that i think kate is a great mom, with plenty of energy that some women are so jealous of. there are not many women who couldn;t keep up with her. she’s also a clean beautiful lady.

601. Linda Miller said:
May 26, 2009 @ 8:58 am

OMG: I’m sure most of you saw Monday’s season kick-off episode. I’m e mailing TLC directly. I never saw such a sad show!

Did anyone notice at no time did Kate take serious responsibility for her overpowering issues? Jon looked like a beaten dog, still afraid (or having trouble expressing his true feelings)

This is NOT the show we used to enjoy or I think they originally signed up for. If it’s supposed to be a depiction of a real family “reality” show, I can get that reality frankly by visiting my own disfunctional family and 80% of my friends. If it’s going to be a show about 2 separate parents raising kids ditto and .

In any case Monday’s show was not just sad….it actually hurt to even watch and why should we expose ourselves to that stuff!

Instead of emailing TLC, I think you should send your message directly to Figure 8 Productions.

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I think the situation is very sad. If they are going to fix this it is going to take a great deal of work on both sides and I just don’t see that in their eyes. They both look like whipped dogs that have lost their way. I hope they can be civil for the sake of the kids. I think they both need to grow up and start acting like adults. Kate needs to quit being mean and Jon needs to get some backbone.

They probably have alive in maid!

Finally they will forget about this whimp of a male, and the children will not be subjected to Jon’s yelling at them, his drunkeness and the confusion of seeing their daddy with other women who are not their mother. I just can’t stand JON.. Kate picked the most ugly looking bulldog, ewww

No, they won’t have Jon’s yelling, drunkeness, or seeing their dad with another woman. Nope…they’ll just be subjected to their Mother’s yelling and spankings to remember. Great outlook for these kids!

I started watching the show from the cery start and fell in love with the whole family. I really felt for Jon and Kate trying to make it with the twins and the 6 babies and was interested in how they were doing each week. After a couple of seasons I began to see a change in the kids of course because they were growing like weeds and beooming individuals. I started not liking Kate’s attitude in how she belittled Joh. She explained that they were very blunt to each other and got out bow they felt right then. All went well as long as Kate got her way because in her eyes she was right. I felt sorry for Jon because when he stood up to her she went off to have her tantram but did hold his ground.

I watched the latest one with the famous chef and to talk about a woman that thinks she is a big TV Star now the show revolves around her. If this was a situation comedy I would be saying replace the mother with someone that is kinder to her husband and kids and not so self centered. Kate, the show is about bringing a “loving” family trying to bring up 8 kids of which 6 are all the same age. I have seen other shows of large families and neither of the parents have changed like you have. Did Jon cheat on you? I don’t know and I really don’t care either way but I would not blame him. If I treated my husband like you treat him I would not of lasted long. When you first started the program I could tell that you were so in love by the body language you had between each other and you spoke to each other and the children. Now when the two of you sit together on the love seat for interviews during the shows Jon is relaxed and many times has his arm behind your head. Kate, you are now sitting as far away from him as you can and never touch him except to hit him. Why do everything have to be so perfect and it is always someone else’s fault things went wrong. You go way over board on everything you do and you are ruining your marriage and the lives of your children. You wonder why your twin daughters act so spoiled at times because they have watched their mother lately.

I am very torn about watching the program anymore because I really want to see how the kids are growing. But I really don’t want to see how kate is enjoying the harvest of goodies she has now because she is popular. I am glad you have a new home but stop being a DIVA.

I am sorry I have been so hard on Kate but I have seen this coming long before the tabloids reported Jon cheated. No…Jon is not perfect but I still see a loving father now that hasn’t changed since the first time I saw the program. There were a few times I wished he had sent Kate to time out corner for bad behavior just like they do the kids. If she wants anyone to blame for the way things are going right now then she needs to look in the mirror or even better sit down and watch herself from the first program and then now. She will see a very loving over worked mother turn into a bitchy diva mother that is using her family as a way to get materal things in her life she thought she would never have. I think you need therapy and thrown over someone’s knee for a good spanking that would pop your big bubble you have put yourself in.

As you have said that “you just might go crazy today” I agree that at times you have to just to get through raising a couple of kids. But after a fit or two you get back to normal and realize nothing is more important than your husband you loved enough to marry and all your kids that you reshaped your body to bring into this world. People watch the program to see your kids and how you patrent them not how is Kate and what new things does she have this week. I am see that your speaking engagements and such are more important than your family right now. These kids grow up to fast and will be gone and out of you lives in 15 years. Wait maybe you are thinking you had better take advantage of the money you can rake in right now because in the future years it will be all gone. Your right but think about what kind of relationship you will have with your husband and children at that time.

BEFORE YOU LOSE IT ALL GET BACK TO THE BASICS OF LOVING YOUR FAMILY AND NOT JUST YOURSELF. IT IS VERY LONELY WHEN THEY ARE GONE.

Kate is not the problem in Jon’s life, Jon is bored with the kids, He is ready to bust out of there so he can have the privacy to drink and fuck his life away. Kate and the kid’s bodyguard is doing what he was hired by TLC to do. Many celebrities especially where there are children involved do have a bodyguard. And, so what if Kate maintains herself. If you notice before she had children she looked nice, it would seem normal she would work hard to get her body back, and what else does she do? She exercises, eats right, tans and has a manicure and pedicure. OMG wow, how many other women out here do the same thing, I think Kate is doing a great job with the kids, and teaching them to take care of themselves, even Mady has calmed down which in the beginning I was a bit hard on her but I have totally changed my mind and see where the blame needs to go and that is squarely on Jon’s shoulders. He is the selfish lil male with his lil sports car and now custom motorcycle. Jon is a jock and he is reverting back to his single lifestyle where life revolves around him, his dick and his toys. Kate is in it for the longhaul, she is a good influence on the kids and because of her they will grow up to be people that believe in working for what they want and taking charge of their own health and lives. I think Kate being a nurse is good for the children, and so what if she is making money this will afford the children get what they need no thanks to that whimp of a male named Jon! Jon is not the better parent. I can see this scenario, Jon leaves, moves out into his own lust pad, the kids are over for a visit, they wake up and Jon has his common bitch beside him in bed, he yells at the kids to go back to bed or go watch TV until he gets up, Jon is a pathetic loser him and his bitch. Whats her name and her brother are both losers actually Jon fits in just fine with them he should leave and go his own way and forget the kids that would be the best thing he can do for them. Denna and her brother that brother is much like Kate’s brother and sis-in-outlaw. LOL, Deanna was running and hiding like the bitch she is and her brother has enshrined the love bed of his sis and Jon. LOL, they are truly the joke in this situation. Jon is making a big mistake drinking abandoning his children for his lustful desires is going to be his downfall. And a final point, it seems the bodyguard is married, his wife isn’t making a scene about his job, so why are you? Hm, miniskirts, heels and bikinis, since Kate has the bod for it go for it I say. When else should she wear this, when she is 60?

Kate looks pretty good for a woman that has given birth to 8 children. Why do I note such envy from you women? As for Kate’s million dollar home, this is the kid’s home as well and they also travel in the SUV. Now you tell me how they will fit into a sports car and hang onto the back of a motorcycle. Some of you women are so envious it reeks off of you. I would be willing to make a blind bet, line you all up with kate all of you in a bikini, LOL, Kate would probably win hands down and I doubt you have had as many children as she has. She got a tummy tuck out of the deal because a woman watching the show she was on is married to a cometic surgeon and they offered the surgery, who wouldn’t jump for that opportunity when your skin is hanging below your privates? so she had surgery and she tans and otherwise tries to look nice, How many times have we heard children say they are ashamed of their mom’s because she is too fat or whatever. Why would you women be so against another woman?

I think it’s pretty clear that both of these parents have other priorities in their lives and their children aren’t at the top for either of them. When either of them says they are doing this all for the kids they become liars. They are doing it for themselves. Neither of them has behaved in a way that is best for the children in a long time. I have always thought that Kate was a self-centered shrew but I have come to believe that Jon is no better. If he truly had the best interests of his children at heart he wouldn’t be running around with little girlfriends and dragging his family through the tabloids. There is an appropriate process and timeline…..divorce and then running around. I suspected from the time that I saw his red face and confusion at a birthday party that Jon might have a problem with alcohol. If that is the case, there is no sin to being an alcoholic, there is a sin in not getting help before it effects the lives of those you love. The entire family is badly in need of help however I suspect Kate’s ego is too big for her to accept her fault in all of it. Jon might be savable if he gets help but as much as he says he doesn’t like the publicity I think it makes him “someone special” in the eyes of lots of people and builds his sagging self-esteem. For those of you who have chosen one or the other of this set of parents to champion, I think you have missed the boat. I think they are both setting a pretty pathetic example of how to parent a family of children and TLC has used very poor judgment in continuing to promote this sad group.

I think the whole situation is sad. They both need to suck up. They have 8 kids the sextuplets will be 18 in 13 years and stay together and raise them. If they can’t live in the same house build one on one of the other 23 acres of the property and at least be both will be close by. It is a shame that it has come to this. I am anxiously awaiting the announcement on Monday night. I feel bad for all 10. This is not an easy situation for all. As for the brother and sister-in-law they need to keep to themselves. There are two sides to all of these stories and we do not know the truth to any of them. It is a shame that Kate does not have any support system from family or friends. I cannot ever imagine not speaking to my family. Jon at least has his mother. It is sad when the only friends and support you have our your paid staff.

I don”t think this is what God had in mind when he blessed Jon and Kate with eight children. They need to go visit God and get their priorities straight.

Kate is the better parent period. Jon is the picture of a whimp, a useless and selfish man. I dislike whimps period be they man or woman. I believe Kate when she says, “everything she does is for her children.” I read someplace Jon was looking at a one bedroom apt. in NYC, if this is the case then you see what I meant by saying, “Jon is reverting back to his single jock days, sports car, motorcycle, and now his one bedroom lust nest.” If he really had the kid’s best interest at heart he would do everything on this earth to make his marriage work. I wonder if he ever considered professional marriage counseling? Instead of getting his counseling from bitches in a bar/lounge while getting intoxicated? The show seems to be goin forward. I doubt there is any hope for their marriage, not even in the future. I believe Jon is using his so called “anger” as an excuse to do exactly what he has wanted to do for along time, the single life. I really hate the word hate but here goes, I verge on hating the person Jon is, what in the world did Kate ever see in this person? Jon is doing what is best for him and when he says, “it’s for him and his kid’s,” he means “his life”. Did I mention I can’t stand Jon. Jon also mentioned that in the past he allowed Kate to “rule the roost”, and now poor lil Jon is reaping the benefits of being a wealthy man, didn’t notice he mentioned he resents being a wealthy man! One day he is going to fall on his ugly face and that day can’t come soon enough, did I mention how much I don’t like Jon. Although their marriage is over, for the sake of the children, I hope they can maintain some simblance of friendship, because they are connected for life, whether Jon likes it or not, counceling should be sought. Maybe Jon doesn’t wish to have counceling, why would he? You can clearly see who is happy in this situation, JON, it’s all about his life, his new chapter. Jon has rode on the back of Kate and the kid’s, now he is a wealthy man, he now looks back and says he let Kate “run the show, rule the roost” and use this as his excuse to trot off to his lust nest with his bitches and a couple million in hand. I don’t think I will watch the show after this as long as Jon continues to be apart of it. I just feel like throwing up when I hear his voice. if you women can’t see what a useless loser Jon is then I think you’re blind. How can Jon be so happy when his children are going to suffer because of him. But, no he can’t wait to get on with “his life” it’s all about Jon. I hope Kate can find some peace after all this,the well being of the children should be foremost and as much as most of you despise Kate she is the main person in the children’s lives, she is their mother. If Kate continues to walk around with gloom and doom on her face the children will pick up on this and may think they did something wrong. Kate has great strength of character, but she could use professional help with this difficult and sad situation.

Men are wonderful and have nothing to do with my opinion of Jon. I didn’t realize Jon is a man, I know he is probably male, LOL. Kate is still the better parent and time will prove all I have said. Now you have a nice day, I am going to be busy. Bye

Kate isn’t planning on giving up her career (and I use that term loosely) of flitting all around the country doing absolutely nothing but getting rich. Is that for the kids? No, that is so that she can get away from them. That is so she can be with Steve. What a great cover that is. Steve is her bodyguard, therefore he has to be with her at all times. What does Kate do for her kids aside from yell at them, spank them and shoo them away.

When I said, Jon is a whimp, he is. Jon has a mouth and he could have stood up and stopped this charade

It would appear he has.

Kate is the one that filed for divorce yesterday. I think the whole thing is sad. Now she has no family and no husband. I just wish all of the best and feel very sorry for the kids. I don’t see why they cannot build another house on the land and both live out there on the compound.

Who. Cares. About. These. People.

Get. A. Life.

Seriously. It’s time to stop hearing about these people. They aren’t that important.

I don’t see anyone on this forum that really gives a darn about the kid’s. This is just a venting place to rant, and what I say falls on deaf ears. Let’s for a moment say I am all wrong and you are all right. Jon is the best parent. You tell me why Jon would abandon his children at such a time in their lives when they are this impressionable, if he is the better parent? No one can kick Jon out of his home, he can stand his ground and take the spare room, anything but leave his children. See looking at this in a new light you can clearly see Jon is not working for his children’s best interest period. This is why I believe Kate is the better parent. I don’t see her leaving because of a fling, and if it’s true she is dicking around with the BG then why wouldn’t she be too happy for Jon to leave and it doesn’t seem that way from what I have seen. I am sure there are legal reasons why she filed her papers now. This is something we are not privy to know at this time. But, I bet you it is more complex than you think. Another thing, why should child services get involved in the Gosselin situation? There are too many children out here that are being subjected to real physical abuse and neglect. Why should a needed service, especially in this ecomony when so many services are being cut waste their time and resources on investigating something that doesn’t need to be investigated? The children are fed, well kept, watched and protected, Kate is within her right to spank their bottoms, this isn’t considered child abuse. Let’s save the resources of child services to monitor children that really need it!

Here we gooooo, you bunch of hen’s, all of you continually attack Kate and why she is into her looks. So, lets go over this, and see if we can’t get to the bottom of this. Do you know any woman that is not interested in her makeup, nails, skin, shoes, clothes, weight, nose, or other body part, faceshape, doublechin, hair, jewelry, perfume, tan, hairstyle, haircolor, wrinkles, acne, eyebrows, teeth, lips, the size of your lips and if the lipstick you chose looks good, your bra, your panties, if your hands look young or covered in old age spots, and how moisturized your hands are, your feet, and how your toenails look, what your ankles look like, what the skin on your feet looks like, what color your toenails or nails are painted, what shoes to wear to show off the toenail job, how large or small your breast are, how flat or round your ass is, how shaved and smooth your skin is, how tight or saggy your skin is, your teeth and how dull or white they are. I mean, the list goes on and on now before you hen’s rake me out over this list go ahead and pick out which ones interest you, and feel free to add some which are not on the list. By the way don’t come back with the BS, that you aren’t interested in such. And, don’t tell me none of you hen’s never looked into the mirror and thought about what cream you could put on that up and coming wrinkle, from frowning and bitching all these years, and probably some of you even have a package or two currently in delivery to your doorstep with your wrinkle cream in it. And of course Mully and company, why would you care about what bikini you’re going to wear, when you have thunder thighs, sausage links for limbs and a panniculus hanging over your “P”, who would be concerned with bathing suits, when you look like a waterbuffalo in fishnets. But, what about your make-up, etc., and everything else I didn’t list, if you were to tell me that you honestly were not interested in anything I have listed thus far, you would be lying. Either that or you are a dike, on your way to becoming male. and apparantly, nowdays, males are very much interested in their compact powder, eyebrows, noses’ and eyeliner, you can even see some of them with big diamond earrings, so don’t even try to tell me that none of you hen’s never over concerned yourselves with your looks. Now i realize some of you are over the hill so to speak, but back in the day when it mattered you were interested in your looks. So, just imagine what it would be like to be on TV. You know, Kate is pretty fortunate, she does have the looks naturally, she is a ten before having children, but taking into account that she had twins, and then sextuplets, Kate is at least a 15. But nevertheless, she is still going to be concerned about primping. remember something Jon said on one of the previous shows, how Kate was hot before she had kids, when she had the long curly blonde hair? she obviously has always tried to maintain herself in high standards. Personally, I don’t really care how much or how little one primps, but quit trying to hold this woman up to some standard, that none of you hen’s could ever live up to yourselve’s, you hen’s are just seething with envy over Kate, it’s pathetic and bordering on obsession. By the way, you old goats were and never will be concerned with that family, or that families children. You hens have been awaiting the destruction of their marriage and the breakdown of their family since your envious snake eyes landed on Kate. Between Jon’s stupidity and cowardice, and you hens pecking away out there for the day you could screech how right you were and how bad, and wrong Kate was, and how some woman, got to f**k Kate’s man! You call this concern for their children? You aren’t fooling anyone you old envious, beady eyed hen’s. and you heiffers out there lounging around in front of the tube with your bowls of junk food slobbering all over the place with joy, when you found out that Jon was screwing around on Kate, why don’t you hens get off your eggs, and go find out what your own hubby-hound-dog is up to or how far he is up your friend’s P.

yak yak yak, are you tired yet? Kate is by far the better parent, and her children will grow up and be good citizens. Jon sure did fly when he got the chance and now he is a wealthy man he is really flying high. I have no use for that Jon. Kate is a good mom and time will prove it. I have never seen such an envious bunch. So what if she makes money. I am sure Kate is interested in every aspect of their well being. She is an excellent mother.

I am tired Kayli. Tired of people like you who seem to think the sun rises and sets in Kate Gosselin’s butt.

You have a really warped view of what a good mother is.
It makes me wonder if you, yourself, are a mother? If you arent, that might account for some of the philosophies you seem to hold tight to when it comes to considering what makes a good mother.

Envy? Hardly. What is there to be envious of? I wouldnt have Kate Gosselin’s fishbowl existence for all the tea in China OR all the money in the world.

Its the same old, tired mantra all Kate supporters throw at those of us who see her for what she really is……we are jealous, we are envious, we would do the same thing if we were in her shoes.

We arent. We wouldnt.

Kayli, It sounds as though you have a major crush on Kate.
So, because Jon is acting like an ass right now and because Kate is a 15 in your eyes, that automatically makes her a super terrific Mom.
Since when does how you look determine your parenting skills. You have yet to give one example of how Kate is a great Mom or the better parent. Could it be because you can’t think of any?????

Right now, I wouldn’t want either one of them for a mother or father.
However, up till a few months ago, Jon was indeed the better parent.

Did Kate accompany the boys on their special day out? No, she accompanied all the girls, though. Jon was there for all eight kids.

Has Kate ever taken the kids for a walk in the woods?
Has Kate ever taken care of the kids personal hygeine?
Did Kate get up every morning to get the kids off to school?
Has Kate ever really played with her children?

I’ll tell you what Kate did do – She called a child ruined because she got ice cream on her clothing.
She left a sick child on the cold, hard floor in order to protect the bedding. She also left a child in the dark on the potty with a cameraman.
She went ballistic over gum and a dresser drawer knob.
She left 6 sick children with Aunt Jodi so that she could accompany Jon to get hair plugs.
She told her child that she didn’t want to hear him breath.
She constantly belittled Jon in front of the children.
She made Joel wait to have his butt wiped by Jon because she was too lazy to do it herself.
She ignores the kids when they are talking to her because she is too busy talking to the cameras.
She sat on her butt in a store picking out furniture while her son was constipated. Who helped Collin? It sure wasn’t Kate, the nurse.

You can hate Jon all you want to, but don’t try to pass Kate off as anything but a poor excuse for a mother.

You can also call us every name in the book. It just goes to show how immature you really are. Maybe you are the old hen or the old maid who is jealous of how hot Kate looks.

I have to say Valerie is super funny in her description of past events in the lives of the Gosselin children. I am serious you need to do comedy, this is the first time I have actually laughed while reading some of your comments, ha ha ha. Can you imagine when that child turns grown man and shits in his bed because he woke in a cold sweat imagining a boogey man with a glowing light in the dark is spying on him while he is sitting on the potty. LOL,

hm, I think Kate needs to pluck those hair plugs out of Jon’s scalp, think that would be painful? You girl’s hate Kate so much, and to imagine you thought I was a bad girl for disliking Jon so much, but you got me beat all to hell in the hate department, you hate Kate so much it’s going to run your BS and BP up Mully, stress is not good for those two conditions. Schmidty, arent you too old for this type of stress? Go take your geritol and sit down.

Come on girl’s, you are ganging up, give me your best shot, oh please do it!!!

oh yes, Schmidt, it is “your sad excuse for english” not ” you sad excuse for english” are you half mexicana? what are you? a stupid 75 year old mexican that can’t speak or write properly. Are you too old, dull, and weak to handle the words hens, goats and snake eyes? I can’t help it that you probably don’t know what a pannus is, what did you think I was referring to, a woman with a penis? I bet you did lmao

Kayli

you are very near as narcisstic as Kate has become

NO…many if not most of us of “mature age” do NOT spend our time and someone else’s money on all of the “I want to look like a star BS that you list”…I am 65 today..and when I look in the mirror I do NOT focus on the wrinkles (am proud of them)..or the few extra pounds..I see the wonderful giving life I have lived..am proud of my nursing background and all the days/nights I spent holding patient’s hands,,etc

you likely are in the same age group as Kate..what we “older” folks call the “entitlement generation”…you think your looks and plastic surgery will get you thru life …think again…

Kate a 15?? what a joke..she is not even a 1….her “job” is to nurture and be there for those 8 beautiful kids she insisted on…not trekking thur airports with the Gray Goose…..

BTW…in case you do not know (or more likely cannot understand)…Kate went for fertility for the twins a mere 4 months after they were married…in the “business”…the definition of “infertility” is at least a year of unprotected sex without a successful pregnancy…her “condition” does not always result in infertility…I know of many many case of ladies with PCS who did indeed get pregnant and carry successfully to term WITHOUT any high tech treatments

personally..and professionally..she is really no better than octomom..she saw the dollar bills in her future if she managed two sets of multiples..

now she has sacrificed those 8 kids..and her marriage..to her own narcisstic ego..you may need to look that word up..it is perhaps too many letters for you to understand

and..lastly ..and again…WHO cares to watch or listen to a failed marriage mother…..the show is over…

I think we should all know better than to wander over into the “kiddie” section. I think all of us grownups need to move over to the adult section and leave Lil Ms. Kate Wannabe alone. I think she needs a timeout or a nap.

Rosie, I was thinking that even Kate wasn’t that sick and then I read your post! I’m praying for all eight of those children!

Pat

Yes you girls exhibit adult-like behavior, but I assure you it’s not adult behavior. It doesn’t matter if Kate spanked Leah, or threatened to throw her son’s teddy bear away, none of this proves that Kate does not love her children. The eight children are not neglected or abused as you would have us believe, this is plainly obvious. I do question your motives for being online all day, everyday raking Kate out and telling anyone who will read your BS that the kids are basically hated by their mother.

By doing this you are not proving that you care about those kids in anyway, shape, form, or fashion. If you really cared about truly abused and neglected kids you would put all of your time into helping children who really are in dire situations. Even in this country, where their are children who do not even have access to dental care, and are in horrific pain, or kids out their whose parents are truly physically abusive and dangerous to their kids. But, because you don’t become an advocate, because you just simply pass your time by, picking and raking Kate out proves that “caring for the 8 kids who you want to believe are being abused” isn’t your real motive on here. These kids do not need some envious, obsessed, phantom, online pseudo mommies.

All you care about Mully, Rosie, Schmidt, and Valerie, is verbally attacking and competing in your minds with Kate, on how you girls feel that you girls would be better mothers to her eight kids, you have no regard for those kids’ feelings, what-so-ever. You just non-stop attack their mother, the only mother they will EVER have, and if you girlies could have it your way, you would let the eight children think that they aren’t loved by anyone but, well, Mully, Rosie, Schmidt, And Valerie who do in a sort of weird, obsessed way, claim they care so long as they feel that they have something to compete with Kate over, even if it is a lie. Nothing I have seen so far proves to me, that Kate doesn’t love her kids as the likes of you would love to suggest.

And, no I really do not care what Kate looks like. But because you try to suggest that because Kate primps and goes to a spa, that she hates the kids, I am going to defend Kate. In my opinion she could have done better in certain situations which I have seen, but then again EVERYONE in existence, myself included could do better about something, but nevertheless, Kate is so incredibly far from being that horrible parent you girls want to make her out to be, that it sickens me that you hens would even suggest it. Being a slob doesn’t mean that you love your kids more that a perfectionist would love her’s, and being a perfectionist doesn’t mean that you hate your kids. Kate is a neat freak, she is a perfectionist, and her lifestyle is required to maintain and keep that house hold in order. The biggest issue might be that Kate has OCD, and obviously you girlies don’t care. Instead of just looking at what she could do as far as treatment for this issue, you so called caring girlies just nitpick continually, even dropping to such a level that you would suggest that those children are hated by their mother.

BTW, the fact that someone dyes their hair, and wears makeup, and uses styling products doesn’t mean that you don’t care about your children, because you are sooooo into self. The only difference between the four of you and Kate, is the fact that she does look much better than you, and considering that she has had sextuplets and still is that put together, and looks that good is amazing. So because all four of you girls do pick on Kate over primping, I AM going to question your motives. Is it, you really do believe that any other woman that has children, and who happens to primp doesn’t love their children? Or is it, the fact that you seem to be so insanely envious of her? Honestly you girls should be more concerned with not only your own children, and lives, and self, but with your mental health being the first. Because I’m sure you four have something wrong.

Another thing, you can’t say that if you had the eight children, six of which ( need I remind you) are five years old, that you would never raise your voice at them, or threaten to throw one of their toys away, or spank one of them, you are not in that situation, and have no idea how it may be in real life, not just your fantasy about how wonderful it would be everyday if only one of you were the mother. It’s very unrealistic, just because you babysitted a couple of children doesn’t make you an expert, and just because you have had 3 of your own doesn’t mean that you have any idea about the everyday issues, and annoyances of eight children, six of which, again (need I remind you) are five years old.

All you do is speculate on how you feel that you girlies are superior, and experts on children, again it comes to this. The show is specifically about Jon, Kate, and their eight children, not you girls. But, just to make a point, let’s just do what you girls do, speculate. What if you were in Kate’s shoes, and had the eight kids, lets just say that maybe, just speculating, that you would be a more calm, patient mother than Kate is to her children, what have we accomplished by this? More importantly if you do feel that way, it doesn’t mean that you have the right to have those children think that because their mother is impatient, and uncalm, she hates them. So, again, is it that you girls are bored and have nothing better to do, nothing better to advocate for?? Or are you just picking on Kate, and telling her kids (in the future) when they do read what you are saying, that they were never loved, just simply so you can feel good, and superior about yourselves?

The truth is Rosie, Valerie, Mully, and Schmidt, I’ve only heard you girls bragging about yourselves, which is typical teenage SHE-DEVIL behavior, I’m not in the least bit impressed with you. You girls haven’t the mind, or the ability to feel for another person other than yourself. Life in your child-like, demented brains, literally, revolves around selves, or so you wish. And all of you are absolutely thrilled at YOUR idea of those children being hated by their parents. This has gotten out of control with you hens, this is an obsession if I have ever seen one. It’s not cute, you’re not funny, you girls prove nothing but how self-centered you are. Honestly, I would be ashamed if I were anything like you, absolutely zero concern for the well being for anyone including those children. Again you probably do not have the ability to actually comprehend what I have laid out. But just to sum it up, I believe that all four of you should be concerned as to why you have been chomping at the bits all of these years to ruin this family, and then claim that you care for these children. It’s concerning, really.

Val, I purchased a pair of flip flops from either Walgreens or Walmart and although you might not realize this, if you buy the ones with color, especially a dark color, they rub off onto the bottom of your feet, maybe this is what happened to Kate she probably has those cheap flops she can slide on and off when she comes from outside the house to inside. Therefore it isn’t dirt and filth but the dye on the flip flops that caused the problem. By the way because of the dye I ended up with black feet, literally, which washed off with soap and water, it has nothing to do with filth.

Hey Kayli, What’s your motive for your super long and boring posts.
How does attacking Jon make you any different than what you think we are doing? You don’t have kids do you?
Mods, is Kayli really someone else who used to post here?

Kayli: Please try to use whatever little bit of common sense you might have and get your head around this:

We dont care what you think about Jon Gosselin. For that matter, we dont care what you really think about anything, including us.

You came here and from the outset, you were incredibly rude and defensive and then verbally abusive.

Your credibility on ANY subject, is completely gone and thats because you act like a spoiled, willful child, who doesnt get their way.

Intelligent, adult people can debate a subject w/o resorting to name calling, which you have done incessantly and w/o stooping to the levels you stooped to.

Its your choice, at this point, if you stay here and be a contributing blogger or not, but I would hope that if you DO choose to remain on this site, that you post with respect to people who, even tho they may have a differing viewpoint than yours, certainly dont deserve the unkind words you heaped upon them.

You owe an apology to all of the women you have verbally attacked here and called names, especially Pat Schmidt.

I dont know how old you are, Kayli, but you might learn a lesson or two from us old “hens”. If you treat others with respect, usually you get that same respect back, even if there is disagreement on a subject.

If you are nasty and offensive, you lose points and all you manage to really do is make people look at YOU as someone that no one wants to be around.

As I said before, the choice is yours, but if I were you, even if you decide to leave this blog, Id consider listening to the advice just given you. Someone who attacks complete strangers on a blog, as you have done for the past several days, would seem to me to have a lot of anger in them. You use the word “hate” A LOT. You seem awfully young to have that much anger, so figure it out Kayli and either get some help or learn to control yourself better.

Good luck.

Pat I am not going away, all I have to do is read back on this forum from when it began to see what you’all are about. I don’t care if you respond to my posts. I have sincere sadness for the children of Jon and Kate and a hope they can seek counseling and heal their marriage. Surely you people in your infinite so called wisdom want the same thing for the children? Oh don’t bother I know you don’t give a damn anyway!

Mully, I owe you nothing, you don’t pay my bills and you are not my friend. Stick to your own family and keep minding their business. I am sure you’re the type that can’t cut the apron stings. That pic of you and your son looked intoxicated or just a goof, don’t know which!
My attack is really directed at you’all and not about my dislike of Jon. Through all the past posts long before I came on this forum to post, you were such bitches toward Kate, you never expressed a concern for Kate or goodwill that she could change and would seek counseling that may have saved their marriage, which in turn would protect and help the children. You are all back bitting she devils and I came along and gave you a good dose back and you hate it, and I love it. Now you have a good day pissing on yourselves.

DON’T know how you feel, but I’m beginning to feel used and abused by media multiples parents Jon and Kate Gosselin and their enabler, TLC.

It’s clear we’ve all just been taken for a big ride, what with their carefully crafted, top-secret, extremely bizarre “Jon & Kate Plus 8″ separation TV special Monday. They should have called it “Divorce, American-Style.” Cold, calculated and manipulated to make us tune in.

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Jon and Kate had decided earlier in the day to indulge in a cold bit of publicity-grabbing: Filing for divorce hours before the special aired!

If their only concern is for the kids, as Jon and Kate claim, couldn’t they have waited a few days to stage this bit of drama? They make the “The Real Housewives” look demure. The uncouple has been lying to us for months — not just about the split, but about Jon’s carousing as well.

If this is indeed “reality” TV, then they should have been real and told the truth. It wasn’t because they wanted to keep it private, but because they wanted to make a ratings bonanza of their family tragedy.

Those of us who tuned in for the drama came away feeling shortchanged. Jon and Kate were ready for their close-ups, acting oddly relieved and disconnected from the real world as they separately made on-camera confessions.

A marriage being torn apart, it seemed, wasn’t as important as putting on a happy face to ensure the show continues.

Clearly, Kate, more media-savvy than Jon, does not want to lose the series. It’s the goose that laid that the golden egg. Or, in her case, golden eggs.

The only thing that was transparently real is that Jon hates Kate and that is why this marriage is ending.

Hey, it’s tough to pick up women in bars when the paparazzi is on your tail.

The show will return in August, presumably with Jon and Kate splitting custody and swinging single.

“Jon & Kate Plus Dates,” perhaps?

Their return will, again, be huge in the ratings. But what about the kids?

Does anybody in charge really care?

I’m so glad they’re taking a break. This ride they’ve taken us all on in recent weeks is making me nauseous.

I hadn’t been following this thread. That is nasty. Wow.

Anyway Mully, have a good time at your son’s wedding! I hope you have all have a great day!

Thanks Charlene, Im looking forward to it.

I hope Jon and Kate sent a thank you card to the Jackson Family. They certainly got the Gosselins off of the front cover of the gossip magazines. I have always thought Jon was the better of the two parents but if he is moving to New York City instead of staying within close proximity of his children my opinion of him has taken another step downward. I understand Pennsylvania is checking into the fact that TLC in infringing on the kids rights. If they find for the children it will put a crimp into the other shows TLC broadcasts as well as this one.

Trash, just trash.

Lynda, You don’t know the half of it and you don’t want to know – believe me.

He needs to grow up he has eight kids.

So does Kate, but she also doesn’t act like she does.

Boy, I’ll bet Kate is so mad she is spitting nails! Him, spending THEIR money on another woman.

I’ll bet she is calling it the kids money, finally. Jon, spending HIS CHILDREN’S MONEY ON ANOTHER WOMAN!

It is so sad. How on earth can these little kids understand this tragic turn in their lives? Poor kids.

I have been watching this show since it’s inception and for the world in me I can’t but wonder where the heck are the grandparents, parents,aunts,uncles,cousins, brothers and sisters of Jon and Kate. Are there no relatives of Jon and Kate’s who can come to the aid of the 8 children? Do they care so little for their grandkids that they do nothing to help get them out of this horrific family situation? This is the strangest family situation I have ever seen, one relatives involved with the family, other the Kevin and Jodi there for a while. Now they are out of the picture. No other sisters or brothers for Jon or Kate. No doting grandparents have ever been seen oolging over the kids. Doesn’t that seem strange in itself? This has got to be one of the most screwed up families ever? Jon has talked about his dad who it seems he loved very much and admired, but Kate has never talked about her parents. Why is this? Or if she had other sibleys other then Kevin. There has never been any interaction between Kate and her family, they have never been seen on the show. At least Jon’s Grammy was on the show during one of the kids birthday parties. I for one find it hard to believe that as a grandparent I would not want to be at my grandchildrens parties and get togethers. I don’t feel what Jon has done is right but it does make me wonder if there isn’t something in Kate’s background that keeps this from being a loving family oriented relationship. Lots of closets with lots of skeltons in them.

The relatives have few, if any, rights. They can request that Child Protective Services in Pennsylvania do something and apparently that has been done. This isn’t the only family that TLC is exploiting for financial gain and they will continue to do so as long as it’s profitable. Reality shows that exploit adults are one thing, the adults should have enough sense to tell them to get lost. But children can’t make that decision and should be more carefully protected. That certainly isn’t happening in the case of the Gosselin children and it would seem, at least at this point, there are no adults willing or able to stand up for their rights. Very sad.

Mully, I think, as most would probably agree, Michael J was a strange bird, talented but strange. I don’t think however, that he intentionally exploited his children for profit. It’s unfortunate that the same can’t be said for the Gosselin parents. Just my two cents worth and I could be all wrong but that’s how it seems to me.

Michael Jackson used his kids names to get what he wanted–prescription drugs

Jon Gosselin uses his his kids to get what he wants–prada shoes, expensive cars and loose women, haha.

They will be returning on Monday night without this viewer. I stay away from TLC. There are plenty of other stations to watch without subjecting myself to that kind a chaos! I will not subject myself to watching those kids put through anymore of the kinds of horror that has followed them around for the past couple years. They are cute kids, I pray the best for them but with the parents they have it won’t be easy. And since neither parents seems to have gotten any kind of help, therapy, I don’t see any changes in their behaviors. They both think they are right and will, therefore, go through their lives making the same kinds of mistakes over and over. Psychology teaches us that the definition of insanity if repeating an action, expecting a different result. Certainly Jon seems to have a tendency to chose crazy, attention seeking women which will continue to feed his unhappiness. Kate will continue to rule the world with an iron fist until her kids are teenagers and they all tell her to “stick it.” And what becomes of the kids in all of this…………too bad, but it seems no one cares.

Mully, you crack me up. I agree, who the heck cares, certainly not me!

Pat

Gee thanks MaryAnn for that nice visual.

Oh God. Kayli rears her ugly head yet again.

Didn’t you all know? Jon is celebrity status now. Dining at the paparazzi filled Ivy in LA, attending Lakers games via stretch limo and asking for $30,000 for appearances. What a loser he turned out to be!

Valerie,

Do we see Kate parading around LA? Going to celebrity restaurants and sitting in expensive seats at the Lakers game? No, we don’t. If anything, when we see Kate doing things–its with the kids.

I’m NO Kate fan but its clear who the responsible adult is & its Kate.

Jon has been making poor decisions and sadly, his children will see all the whoring he has done on the internet in a few years.

I’m NO Kate fan but its clear who the responsible adult is & its Kate.

Its not clear to me.

Do we see Kate parading around for the paparazzi?

Absolutely!!!!!!!! She calls them when and if she wants them to follow her. She even dresses up for them.

No, We don’t see Kate in bars or clubs because she and TLC do not want us to. I honestly don’t care what she does when not with the kids. The point is that she is hardly ever with the kids and when she is, she is still not the better parent or a responsible adult.

I’m glad Nancy Grace scolding Jon last night. He needs a reality check, this whole family does. I don’t find her mean or cruel. She is real and she is telling him the truth. He needs to wake up and so does Kate!

Here’s part of what Nancy said to him:

When Nancy asked Jon about his kids, he starts to talk about how he could do things better.

“Why is this always about you?” she interrupts. “Why does it always get back to you?”

OMG! Kate Gosselin more affectionate with her children than Jon?

Are you serious?

Lady, you and I must have watched a different show for the past several years. Affectionate is not an adjective I would EVER use to describe Kate.

Kate is a drill sargeant. Her way or the highway. I half expected to see her with a whistle around her neck most shows. And before you tell me that it takes someone like her to corral and raise 8 kids, let me remind you of the many parenting “chores” that Kate tossed off to Jon, because they just werent her “cuppa”.

Seriously. Who brushed the kids teeth? Who bathed and got them ready for bed on a nightly basis, includindg handwashing all of the girls hair? Who got up every morning at 6 a.m. to get the twins ready for school? Who dressed all 6 tups on a daily basis? Who taught Joel or Collin to ride his bike? Who took the time to build them a swing/play set in the back yard?

Please dont say Kate, because you would be dead wrong!

I could go on and on and on. While Kate was laying in bed like the lazy ass she is, it was Jon who took care of the girls, and ultimately the tups, in the morning.

Oh yes, I know. Kate isnt lazy. She flies all over the country giving speeches and collecting love offerings and now shes all over the place peddling her story to any two bit talk show host who wants to raise his/her ratings.

The ONLY time Kate Gosselin cares one shit about her kids is when theres a camera plastered in front of her face and shes pretty sure that America, albeit the world, will hear her pitiful, plaintive plea to understand that everything she does, she does for her children.

As soon as that camera is away from her face, shes off to the spa for a mani or a pedi and doesnt give a rats fat butt about the 8 kids she connived and wheedled Jon into having.

The word “affection”, at least in my book, doesnt contain any dollar signs. In Kate’s book, however, it definitely does.

Lets also not forget that the VERY AFFECTIONATE, VERY CARING Kate, who just this week announced on national television that her children were wailing and sobbing over the shutdown of the shows production, was nowhere to be found, hands on, this week to comfort those same children.

I guess she felt that “someone else” could comfort them, even tho it was a big enough deal to mention on national television that they were upset.

A cat’s a better mother.

I look at the beautiful faces of these children and for the life of me cannot understand why it is that Kate can’t be mother enough to spend the time with them and love them. When the show first started I thought she was a caring mother but the more I watched it I realized that it was Jon who loved them more. He was the one who did everything for them. Bathe them, dressed them, fed them. There were scenes when Jon came in from work, the children were sick (mind you Kate had put them to sleep on the the cold hard cement laundry room floor)so that if they threw up she wouldn’t have to clean bedding from the children. Jon would go in there and switch them to their bedroom floor where there was carpeting at least. You could hear Kate in the background bitching about how she would have to clean up the mess if there was one. Who in their right mind puts sick children on a cement floor? Their already sick and not being in a warm bed didn’t help them any. I honestly think that Jon is the more caring parent of them both. I just don’t think he has had anyone to help him make the right decisions. I don’t understand why his mother or Dr. Glassman have not given him the right advise as to how to help him. He needs to be away from Kate, I honestly think there is something wrong with her. Very Wrong with her. She doesn’t act like a loving caring mother, nor wife. She act more like a mentally deranged woman who needs major help. I have watched the Jon and Kate +eight show since the very 1st episode, you can’t tell me the TLC network has not seen the things that she has done. Kate has hit Jon many many times on air (suppose to look like love pats) she does that all too often. And where do you think the kids come up with the words they use? 3 year olds learn those things from their elders. And Mady, where does she get such a terrible temper from? Hitting and kicking the younger children all the time? You learn those things from their parents or should I say parent. I don’t think Jon is like that. Some one please do something to get those children out from under Kate’s control before someone gets hurt. Look at what she did with the 2 puppies!!!! If you treat an animal badly you will treat a child badly. I have 5 children of my own, eight grandchildren and have had numerous animals and none of them were ever treated like Kate treats these kids and animals. Kate is a sick sick woman. She needs help.

omg leave kate alone! she is a mother of not 1,2,3, or even 4..she has eight kids!! She keeps it real! She is not fake for the camara people!! Geeeez just cause you people are you serious!! She is a great mother who obvioulsy loves her kids…shame on you all who give this woman a hard time!! dont be jealeous cause she sexy and has eight kids!!!

dont be jealeous cause she sexy and has eight kids!!!

This is different! Usually it’s jellus or jelus!!

She is not fake for the camara people!!

I thought she has an SUV! (sorry, I couldn’t help it!)…

omg leave kate alone! she is a mother of not 1,2,3, or even 4..

The poster hit the nail on the head with this one. She’s not a mother. She PLAYS a mother on reality television. A mother would be home with her children, nurturing them, loving them, making memories for them and not with material possessions or trips, all the while disguising it as “culturing” them. The best memories in life are free. Sadly, she hasn’t learned this, and it’s not something that can be taught. A mother, a REAL mother, knows this because for a REAL mother, there is no sense of entitlement or greed that goes along with the challenges of parenthood.

These kids need nurturing now more than ever and are apparently not getting it because Daddy Dearest is off finding his lost youth and Mommy is making sure the public doesn’t forget her while she is out of the limelight.

I don’t think that’s really true right now. I know that he’s at home as much as he is allowed to be home.He has “settled down” considerably. But I agree…these kids need nurturing and BOTH their parents now, more than ever, and of course, this is cause for concern and prayer.

Perhaps everyone is so happy with the outcome they are giddy and unable to think of anything to say that the magazines haven’t already said.

I can only speak for myself, and I wouldn’t say I’m giddy. Relieved, yes, that the cameras have been removed from their home and their lives…for now. I think that, based on Kate’s statement that the show is their life and it must go on, and she had no intention of pulling the plug, this has been a major “victory” for those of us who were concerned enough about child labor laws to do anything we could to call attention to the violation of these laws. I believe that because of this fiasco, the public is so much more aware of the fact that children on reality television shows must be protected at all costs. Before this mess, who knew of Paul Petersen’s efforts? All of this has been the subject of countless blogs, newspaper articles, opinions by psychologists, etc. If anything good comes out of this, it’s been the public’s reawakening to the dangers of throwing innocent kids to the network wolves.

Hopefully, these kids will now be given a chance at a normal childhood, sans cameras. The tragedy is that they lost having both their mommy and daddy together.

My question is — what more can be done for these children?

LOL. It would seem someone forgot to take their meds today.

Looks like they also might have forgotten to go to school and learn simply spelling, grammar and sentence structure.

Oh, and it also appears that the “h” key on their keyboard might be stuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

Have a great day, sweetie and hope you feel better!

language like that is simply a lame attempt to cover up a severe lack of intelligence.

Wisdom from the nuns, Mully. Stuck with me, though.

Chances are nine out or ten times a post like that comes from a youngster who is still wet behind the ears…trying to sound “hard,” like a know-it-all adult. They’re still testing the waters. What’s tragic, however, is when they continue along the path of obscenities, become parents themselves, have children, and pretty soon you have an entirely new generation to carry on these “traditions” of being a smart-aleck air-head with a garbage mouth.

LOL…….

if u guys were in her shoes im sure after so many yrs u would turn out the exact same. so before u go and judge other people LOOK IN THE MIRROR AT YOURSELF! Andtry to place yourself in their shoes.

LOL!! Right back at you, hon! You’re making judgments about posters, making erroneous assumptions how they would turn out. Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black!

the person who wrote this is a bitch.

Judge people much?

maybe u should spend more time focusing on how horrible u r of a person or a parent than u spend writing all over the internet what a horrible person

Judge people much?

And no, I’m willing to bet that we WOULD NOT turn out like Kate because we wouldn’t have exploited our kids in the first place!

Andtry to place yourself in their shoes.

Which ones? The black spike ankle strap heels? No thanks. There is no way I would want to put myself in her shoes, not even her flip-flops.

By the way, when you jump on a board and start the name-calling, you lose all credibility as a poster. Perhaps the person who told you that those who pick and poke at another person’s flaws neglected to tell you that.

SHES HUMAN!!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL- She is minus a heart, minus a brain and currently full of plastic parts. How does that make her HUMAN????????????????

Dear None of Ur Business:

In case you hadnt noticed, you wandered into the worst possible place to defend Kate Gosselin.

It isnt that we dont like her……………….

WE DESPISE HER!