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Jon and Kate Plus 8 - Color Me Gosselin

Posted March 25, 2008 at 7:03 pm by Allison J

I used to be a HUGE fan of Jon and Kate + 8 – I don’t have children, so I get a tickle out of watching others who do. I knew Kate was a bit wacky, but I took it in stride. I didn’t have anyone to vent to, so my pent-up frustration went unchecked. I must say, I enjoyed watching the show in ignorant bliss – until I found Jessica’s post on this blog! Now I watch each episode with a critical, and sometimes unfair, eye.

So yesterday’s episode — Color Me Gosselin. Why are you taking your kids to the Crayola Factory if you don’t want them to get dirty, or clean up after them, or use markers???  Kate, the reason your kids are having meltdowns is because you don’t let them do anything. And it’s not just me who feels this way – just ask your husband. He seems to think markers are fine.

While I am on the subject of markers – they are called washable for a reason. Last week I came home to find my precocious pooch with a chewed up purple Crayola marker. There was purple everywhere – on my cream rug, on his white paws, and all over my very expensive, very large tan micro-suede sectional sofa. But here is the real kicker – it washed right out! HA! Who would of thunk washable markers would just wash out!

Kate, you do not need to spend hours treating stains, as you claimed. You just stick the marker-decorated clothing in with the rest of the wash – you know, the stuff other people fold, iron and put away for you.

Your kids are what, three and a half and six (almost seven), right? Let them use a marker! They are freaking out and “melting down” because they are pissed. And the damn blue glue won’t kill them either. Do you really think that Crayola would supply toxic, hazardous and stain-inducing materials for their young patrons to use?

I know I don’t have any children of my own to clean up after, but during the day I am responsible for 20 – 25 youngsters. And it’s just me! No one else there to wipe noses, clean messes, correct papers, or march to lunch, music, gym, or the library.

Here’s my next complaint — stop complaining about taking your kids to public places. As a teacher I can tell you that field trips are much worse! 25 kids and only three adults to corral them. They have to be fed, taken to the bathroom, and shown an educational and enjoyable time – all of which is easier when the adults chill out and let the kids be kids.

So here is my final note on this episode – Jon, step up and put your foot down when it comes to Kate’s obsessive compulsive mandates. And Kate, quit your damn bitching! If you didn’t want to clean up after eight kids, you shouldn’t have had eight kids.

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8161. mully

November 23, 2008 @ 5:10 pm

I almost choked when I heard her make that comment Lauren. The entire “missing grandparents” debacle was just so staged to me and it was both of them, not just Kate. Jon seemed to REALLY be stumbling around for an xplanation as to why his mother isnt in the picture and THIS was before most of us knew how very close she really does live to them.

Yesterday’s episode was probably the single, most important show I have seen if someone really wanted to compare all we now know to what we didnt know and see just how much Jon and Kate have played the system.

Welcome Soulmate. I have many friends in the UK and I have visited many times. I love your country. Good to see you here.

8162. Lauren

November 23, 2008 @ 5:51 pm

Kate said, “It’s not because we don’t love them . . . and they don’t love us . . . it’s just better if they’re not in our every day lives.”

Are they lepers?
Are they child molestors?
Are they vampires?

Or did they just piss off Kate and her kids are her leverage?

I think Jon would probably like to be around his mom. After all, he was living with her when he met Kate, so it wasn’t as though he hated her before they met.

I don’t think he hates his mom. I just think Kate said, “Stand with me or against me!”

And he chose his children.

8163. Valerie

November 23, 2008 @ 6:35 pm

On that Q and A episode you are all referring to, I was so hoping that someone would pose the “where are the grandparents” question.
I was so disappointed with the answer. It didn’t tell us anything.
However, anyone with half a brain could tell that J&K were being totally evasive and that there is much more to the story.

Lauren, I agree that Jon misses his Mom and family. He seemed pretty emotional while he was in Hawaii and he kept mentioning his Mom. I don’t think that Kate could care less about her family and is keeping Jon away from his. It’s such a shame that Jon doesn’t have the courage to tell her where to go and how to get there.

8164. luvs2sun

November 23, 2008 @ 7:12 pm

Here is a post from Jon Gosselin to the Reading Eagle in response to the comments left by members of his community regarding the full time nurse they wanted the state to pay for. Remember, he is writing to the members of the same community that helped his family by volunteering their time and donating item towards their “begging prayer list”. What a man!!!

Anonymous said…
Hey. People we don’t write the articles. Make sure you have all the facts before you comment. Also do you believe everything you read in the newpaper or see on television. Do you believe everything on the internet? Also the Pittsburgh article is from a columnist not a journalist big difference. Until you walked in our shoes don’t tell us anyhting about your life. You must compare apples and apples. The State made us promises and then took them away. How would you feel if you depended on something and it was taken from you? At the last minute. No planning. I think people should realize what is happening. Most people stand idly by and watch and never ask. So don’t sterotype us. That’s just plain ignorant. The media will make us out to who they want us to be. Lets remember the care is for my six kids not for the twins or my wife and I. Let me tell you its a scary thing putting privacy out there. You can’t hide someone will always find you. You have to weigh the whole situation. Finally, I will do everything and anything for my family especially my kids. (including exploitation!)

Posted by: Jonathan at May 20, 2005 01:34 PM

8165. nurserosie

November 24, 2008 @ 1:27 am

Luvs

again…they DID get the state to pay for a nurse/aide for one full year…they were complaining that after a year the funds were cut

so what?? since when does ANY family have the right to insist on gov’t funded “help” regardless of how many babies they chose to parent…??

they should have been thankful for the year they got help

we have two sets of multiples in our family..and neither couple would DREAM of asking for..or accepting either….gov’t funded help…remember these 6 kids were healthy…

suck it up or don’t create new life Jon and Kate

rosie

8166. mully

November 24, 2008 @ 8:39 am

I hope everyone has a GREAT Monday!

I wont cos its pissing down raining here!

8167. Kelly_Belle

November 24, 2008 @ 8:48 am

Actually…all citizens and non-citizens have the RIGHT to government funded programs. That is what they are there for. There is nothing wrong with asking for help. As a nurse I really thought you would understand that concept.

Some people do need assistance and they have every right to get it.

I’m glad that YOUR family never had to ask for help from the government. I am sure that NO ONE ever had a student loan or Pell Grant either…you know that’s government money too. Yes, even student loans “sponsored” by another company are funded and backed by the government…

And I’m sure that you have never had ANY type of loan before…car, home…whatever. Because that is asking for help too, just in a different way. And now that the government has bailed out a ton of banks….isn’t that kind of like being government funded…

8168. Kelly_Belle

November 24, 2008 @ 8:50 am

Oh…and yes they were healthy…but they were also premature…

as a nurse…you do know what that means…right?

8169. nurserosie

November 24, 2008 @ 1:32 pm

no…no one in my family has ever gotten gov’t funds..for school, loans etc….we live by the motto “live within your means..and save for a rainy day”….sorry….thems just my feelings

and yes I know the tups were preemies..and yes there were 6 of them…

which is why I do not ?? the first year a nurse was “provided” for them on the Pa taxpayer’s dollar….but Kate was insisting the “state” owed them further help cuz she had 6 babies…sorry..no where is that stated in our laws or constitution…

my sister DID have 3 preemies…she and family provided by helping out and taking turns…my DIL had twins..also preemies….for the first year her mom, his mom..and myself shared going down there each weekday to help..on weekends the couple managed on their own

just re read your “note”….NO we have never had a car loan..we wait til we can buy a car cash…we own two homes..both have no mortages…

are we “wealthy”…nah…it can be done

lastly….NO citizen has the right to DEMAND in home help as Kate did…yes..there exist govt funded programs that all have a chance at…she didn’t want that…like the unmatched cribs..she demanded that her state and OUR govt provide help that she designed…

after one year…we no longer call them preemies BTW…they were quite healthy..even at birth..each was discharged from the NICU breathing on their own,,taking formula…etc…

is it a HUGE job taking care of 6?? yikes..of course it is

but it is not our govt’s responsibility to provide IN HOME aide to 6 healthy infants…they got it for one solid year…and wanted more

rosie

8170. Lauren

November 24, 2008 @ 2:14 pm

Kelley, I have taken out a few car loans in my lifetime, but I assure you it wasn’t government assistance. I paid back the loan with interest. It’s a business called “banking.” They lend it for money and they don’t consider it charity. That would be repossession or foreclosure.

I think you and I have had this conversation before and if I remember correctly you work closely with social services in FL. So, I can understand that this would be a touchy subject with you because you see so many in great need. It’s my opinion, where the Jon & Kate Plus 8 show is concerned, that they were never in great need. It seemed to me that they had a pretty good support system with their family. I know not all moms would take on the raising of 4 year old twins for the duration of their daughter’s pregnancy. I would, but not every mom would.

I know a lady right now, she comes to my house to clean every week, and she has two gorgeous grandchildren in foster care. Her daughter and son-in-law were unfit parents for sure, but the grandmothers on both sides refused to take them in. Her statement to me was, “I’ve already raised my kids. Don’t want to raise anybody else’s.”

It happens.

8171. momof3_ipmod

November 24, 2008 @ 2:29 pm

Ok to change the subject, move on and have some fun how about we all name off 10 things we are thankful for. I’ll start.

1. My husband
2. My kids
3. My family and friends
4. My home
5. The food on my table
6. My freedom
7. My health & happiness
8. My husband’s job
9. My Lord and religion
10. EVERYONE HERE! :)

Ok, who’s next? ;)

8172. CarolAnn

November 24, 2008 @ 2:43 pm

Momof3 I’ll go next (pretty much the same as yours!)

1. Jesus Christ
2. My Husband
3. My Daughter
4. My family
5. My friends (this include my blogging friends!)
6. Our Health
7. Shelter/Food/Clothing/Job
8. USA where anyone can succeed at anything they put their minds to.
9. The freedom to worship God
10. Differences (if we were all the same what a boring life we’d have!)

8173. Charlene

November 24, 2008 @ 2:53 pm

Hi Lauren,

thanks for your note on the other blog - I’m just jealous that my husband gets the days off! My ribs don’t like sitting in a chair all day (plus my husband isn’t around to serve me after work which also sucks! But i will live :) ).

Your note above about Kate’s mom taking in the twins for several months is why I don’t believe for a second that the rift could have been caused by Kate’s parents. The fact that Kate could cut off her mother after her mother selflessly took care of her children; I think it’s despicable. She should be still thanking her mother for being so good to her. Also, we got to see how she treats people that help her; ie Jodi. I could not IMAGINE taking care of eleven children all day and then receiving a condescending phone call about a tiny speck of gum. Let alone watch her make me sound like an idiot on television. Kate was very lucky to have a support system and there’s not a doubt in my mind that the disappearance of that support is 100% her fault.

8174. Lauren

November 24, 2008 @ 3:01 pm

Charlene, I have to agree with you about it being Kate’s fault, more than likely. Also, during the wedding episode, Jon was saying that he enjoyed hearing stories about his mom from his Hawaii relatives. You could hear Kate giggling in the background and it seemed to me that she didn’t want Jon’s mother to watch that and think Jon was serious. I think he was serious. It seemed like he really missed his mother on that episode.

8175. ambull

November 24, 2008 @ 3:39 pm

thanks momof3-

1. my LORD and SAVIOR
2. my husband
3. my amazing family and few friends that i have ;) (i’m pitiful huh?)
4. my home (I’D BE MORE THANKFUL IF IT WOULD SELL!!!)
5. my health (nasty hormones and all!)
6. my husband’s job (sorry, mine is a bit of a joke, not to sound too UNgrateful)
7. our FREEDOM!!!
8. the things i’m blessed to be able to afford!
9. my CHURCH!
10. my friends on this BLOG!!!

8176. Gwen

November 24, 2008 @ 4:36 pm

Great idea!

1. My two boys (and the one on the way)
2. My husband
3. The roof over our heads
4. Food on the table
5. Our health
6. Being able to send my son to a good school
7. Being able to be a SAHM
8. My doctor
9. My best friend of 20 years
10.My sense of humor (without it I would be in the corner eating my hair)

8177. Gwen

November 24, 2008 @ 4:45 pm

I agree that the “fall out” with her parents was most likely Kate’s fault, considering what we see of her personality. But I would love to hear the other side of the story. I don’t have any contact with my side of the family, parents included, for many reasons ( let’s just say they are, um, toxic). People always seem shocked by this until I explain the situation. I guess my point is, we don’t really know, since we don’t know her parents. I’d love to be a fly on their wall.

8178. *Jan*

November 24, 2008 @ 5:17 pm

I like what you were all saying about things that you are thankful for.
I noticed a common thread: The most important things were family and our relationship with our Creator and all “home” things.
I agree. Not one person said “All the money in the bank.”

Good for you! You all have everything in the correct order!
Happy Thanksgiving to all on here.
We have so much to be thankful for. In all things give thanks…that’s always going through my mind these days.
You could take away half of our belongings, and we’d still have plenty of thankfulness, don’t you think?

8179. Lauren

November 24, 2008 @ 5:22 pm

I don’t know if I could list ten things. I’m most thankful for my healthy family, my faith which gives me peace, and that my children are all doing well and seem to be on the right track. Of course I’m grateful for having a home and a job, but everything else just seems so unimportant these days.

8180. Kelly_Belle

November 24, 2008 @ 5:44 pm

1. God and Jesus
2. My heart and soul… Melanie
3. My beautiful niece, Riley & other niece (she’ll be here in 3 weeks), Logan
4. My 10 year old “puppy” without him I’d be lost
5. Being able to cook so well with no training
6. Walt Disney…
7. My BFF (Melanie’s Godmother), Amanda. She’s the one who I can always count on
8. The time I had with my father. Although it was too short.
9. All of the ladies (and men of course) on this site…even with our “words” you all always light up my day
10. Dooney and Bourke handbags…sorry…But I really do love them and I am always thankful when I buy/get them.

In my family (when I was younger) we always said what we were thankful for and then a couple/few things that we are going to work on for next year in order to fully see our blessings.

1. Stop and think before I speak (um…ya’ll know what I mean)
2. Love the fact that Melanie is a little clingy right now…some day she’ll be too cool to have me around. Tear.

8181. Lauren

November 24, 2008 @ 5:48 pm

Love the fact that Melanie is a little clingy right now…some day she’ll be too cool to have me around. Tear

LOL, in just a few short years, she’ll be lagging behind you in the Mall, with her arms crossed, and every time you glance over your shoulder to make sure she’s still there, she’ll roll her eyes at you. When you go into the store, you’ll need to keep your distance also. If she’s looking at a particular table of jeans or sweaters, or going through the rack of sundresses, just keep your sunglasses on and go over and browse through the earrings. Oh, it also helps to wear a hat or a scarf.

That will last from about age 12 to 16. After that, it gets good again. LOL

8182. Lauren

November 24, 2008 @ 5:52 pm

(I always liked to “browse” through the earrings rack because of the little mirror on them. You can watch her a little better without being obvious!)

This is all true, Kelley_Belle, I swear . . .

:)

8183. Kelly_Belle

November 24, 2008 @ 5:54 pm

Wow! Lauren…you actually made me tear up! It’s good to know that one day she’ll grow back out of it. At least there is something to look forward to.

8184. Em's mom

November 24, 2008 @ 6:52 pm

1. My 3 wonderful kids-they are my heart and soul
2. My husband of 30 years-it has been, for the most part, a really great life.
3. My parents, who set examples for me my entire life. I am blessed to still have them here.
4. My siblings-we all grew up to be pretty good friends!
5. The friends that have been next to me for all of life’s adventures!
6. My faith-it sees me through the really rough times in life.
7. Gotta copy Kelly Belle-Disney is my happy place!
8. My new puppy-she is helping fill my empty nest!
9. My job-I like what I do and the people I spend everyday with.
10.Subway veggie on wheat…my favorite!!

That was fun! We also go around the table on Thanksgiving and say what we are thankful for..some serious moments and a few laughs, as well! Hands down my favorite holiday!

8185. ambull

November 24, 2008 @ 7:08 pm

em’s mom-

WHERE do you work, are they hiring… i will move!!!??? ;)

i’m underworked (crazy huh), my days are too long, there is way too much gossiping (and NO i do not participate, i HATE it), i’m not working to my fullest potential!!! my chair sucks, my computer screen is giving me a headache, and if one more patient tells me how to do my no-brainer job i’m gonna scream!!!

ok, sorry, i just had a little pity party and venting moment, please forgive me!

8186. Valerie

November 24, 2008 @ 7:13 pm

Kelly, My youngest son was very clingy also until he was about 10.
By a certain age they seem embarassed to even know you. However, like Lauren said they grow out of it. It’s just a stage. Enjoy every moment of her clingyness (is that a Kate word?) now.
Also, healthy preemies really don’t need any extra or special care.
Of course, having 6 at one time is no easy job. But, honestly I think a year with a nurse/aide was all they really needed.

I am thankful for so many things and you all seemed to name them already. It hasn’t been the easiest year, but it could have been worse. So many people have much worse problems than I do. That’s what keeps things in perspective for me.

CarolAnn - How are things going with you. You are still in my prayers.

8187. mully

November 24, 2008 @ 7:33 pm

Ummm…well, at the great risk of stirring the pot yet again…and since I have to catch up after working all day I did want to make a comment.

Nurserosie has indeed done a fairly good job of pissing a few people off here. Sorry Rosie, but thats a fact. However, I have to agree with her assessment of how it wasnt right for Kate to make such an issue of asking for more time with the nurse. Rosie’s facts were dead on right and her viewpoint was also dead on right.

To me, this is just another example of classic Kate wanting more, more, more and expecting the State of Pa. or the Federal government to bail her out of a situation which, in all fairness, they took the chance and created themselves. She freely admits that they DID take the chance that they WOULDN’T have multiples.

Call it what you want, but my feeling is that there are already waaaay too many people abusing public programs in this country who simply dont need the help.

After a year of free private nursing in her home, I think it was more than a fair judgement to deny Kate’s request for more.

8188. luvs2sun

November 24, 2008 @ 7:51 pm

Mother Of Sextuplets Faces Loss Of Medicaid-Funded Nurse (Society has a responsibility, says Mom)
Associated Press ^ | May 8, 2005

Mother of sextuplets faces loss of Medicaid-funded nurse
WYOMISSING - A Berks County woman with year-old sextuplets and 4-year-old twins will appeal for continued nursing help from Medicaid beyond a one-year cutoff.
Kate Gosselin, whose husband has a 90-minute commute to a state job in Harrisburg, said she cannot safely manage eight small children.
The sextuplets - only the second set born in Pennsylvania and among fewer than 30 sets born worldwide - arrived 8 weeks premature but are thriving as they near their first birthday Tuesday.
“I will shout from the highest mountain that these are my children and I love them and I need help,” Kate Gosselin said.
While the Gosselins appreciate the volunteers who streamed through their home in the early months, the children’s routines improved with the arrival of Angie Krall, a licensed practical nurse who spends 30 hours a week with the family. Medicaid provides the temporary nursing support for premature babies, Gosselin said.
“She’s fine-tuned and I trust her,” Kate Gosselin said of the nurse, Angie Krall. “She’s as good as a parent in this home.”
The family cannot afford to pay Krall on their own, she said. Jonathan Gosselin, an information technology specialist who now works in the Gov.’s Office, was unemployed for much of last year.
Kate Gosselin said she feels society has a responsibility to help with the children, since modern medicine promotes the use of fertility drugs, which can lead to multiple births.
She has talked by telephone with Bobbi McCaughey, the Carlisle, Iowa, woman who delivered the world’s only set of surviving septuplets in November 1997. McCaughey named the loss of privacy and the oversight of volunteers as among her biggest difficulties, Kate Gosselin said.
On the bright side, the Gosselin babies seem to have skirted the health problems that can plague premature babies and multiples. Each now weighs between 18 and 22 pounds.
“I look at six healthy babies and I feel a lot better, because it could be a lot, lot worse,” Jonathan Gosselin said.

I wonder if Kate tried to get the state to pay for her new house, after all society has a responsibility!
Also - I wonder what Angie Krall has to say these days!

8189. luvs2sun

November 24, 2008 @ 7:52 pm

SummerFun - Is it really a 90 commute from Wyomissing to Harrisburg? Is that one way or round trip? Or was this another exaggeration from Kate?

8190. Em's mom

November 24, 2008 @ 7:58 pm

Ambull-ok..so I don’t LOVE it everyday! But in comparison to other jobs I have had, it is pretty sweet! The down side-I hear about the negative all day long. The up side-I work with great people and the hours are so flexible. But come to think of it…my chair pretty much sucks! Ah well..the good with the bad! I’ll put in a good word for you, though!

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