Jon and Kate Plus 8 - Color Me Gosselin
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March 25, 2008 at
7:03 pm by
Allison J
I used to be a HUGE fan of Jon and Kate + 8 – I don’t have children, so I get a tickle out of watching others who do. I knew Kate was a bit wacky, but I took it in stride. I didn’t have anyone to vent to, so my pent-up frustration went unchecked. I must say, I enjoyed watching the show in ignorant bliss – until I found Jessica’s post on this blog! Now I watch each episode with a critical, and sometimes unfair, eye.
So yesterday’s episode — Color Me Gosselin. Why are you taking your kids to the Crayola Factory if you don’t want them to get dirty, or clean up after them, or use markers??? Kate, the reason your kids are having meltdowns is because you don’t let them do anything. And it’s not just me who feels this way – just ask your husband. He seems to think markers are fine.
While I am on the subject of markers – they are called washable for a reason. Last week I came home to find my precocious pooch with a chewed up purple Crayola marker. There was purple everywhere – on my cream rug, on his white paws, and all over my very expensive, very large tan micro-suede sectional sofa. But here is the real kicker – it washed right out! HA! Who would of thunk washable markers would just wash out!
Kate, you do not need to spend hours treating stains, as you claimed. You just stick the marker-decorated clothing in with the rest of the wash – you know, the stuff other people fold, iron and put away for you.
Your kids are what, three and a half and six (almost seven), right? Let them use a marker! They are freaking out and “melting down” because they are pissed. And the damn blue glue won’t kill them either. Do you really think that Crayola would supply toxic, hazardous and stain-inducing materials for their young patrons to use?
I know I don’t have any children of my own to clean up after, but during the day I am responsible for 20 – 25 youngsters. And it’s just me! No one else there to wipe noses, clean messes, correct papers, or march to lunch, music, gym, or the library.
Here’s my next complaint — stop complaining about taking your kids to public places. As a teacher I can tell you that field trips are much worse! 25 kids and only three adults to corral them. They have to be fed, taken to the bathroom, and shown an educational and enjoyable time – all of which is easier when the adults chill out and let the kids be kids.
So here is my final note on this episode – Jon, step up and put your foot down when it comes to Kate’s obsessive compulsive mandates. And Kate, quit your damn bitching! If you didn’t want to clean up after eight kids, you shouldn’t have had eight kids.
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8131. momof3_ipmod
November 22, 2008 @ 12:52 am
*Another long, off topic post!
*
Thanks again Luvs. When they diagnosed my oldest with ADHD they explained to me that when she was working or studying it was like 3 tvs were playing in her head at the same time. They said think of watching three different tv shows at the same time and trying to write a report on one; it would be very hard to do. That’s how your daughter’s brain is. ANY outside noise, stimulation, etc. is blocking her from taking in any or all of the information that is given to her. Then they told us that her being on meds would help dramatically and it did for a while but now…not so much. So we’ll see what happens. I’ve been too upset and stressing a little too much about it so for right now I’m just gonna keep researching and educating myself on what SPD is and then when/if the girls are diagnosed with it I will deal with it then.
I know that all kids are different and they each progress at different stages and that’s what I’ve been telling myself for quite some time now; ya know like the 3rd child syndrome. But it’s mainly all the terrible fits she throws and being self abusive (and NOT doing it for attention but rather b/c for some reason she likes the feeling) that have me worried the most. I’ll post a pic on the community forum of my daughter throwing one of her fits so you can see how bad some of them are. They’re NOT pretty! lol
Anyway, those games sound like so much fun! We should do those on like a Friday or Saturday night on the forum! That would be so much fun! Of course though Ambull would have to pull out her game and be the leader.
Well getting ready for bed now…talk to you all tomorrow sometime! ((hugs))
8132. *Jan*
November 22, 2008 @ 2:07 am
If I ever have to go to the ha spittle I will beesh your to lou cat the ner says name tag!
8133. Kelly_Belle
November 22, 2008 @ 8:27 am
Quick one about “misunderstood words”
(at a mid-scale restaurant 2 adults, 1 3 year old)
girl: “I need my F*@%ing knife”
mom: “WHAT DID YOU SAY”
girl: “I need my F*@%ing knife now”
mom: “We DO NOT use that word…do you UNDERSTAND me?”
mom’s boyfriend: (laughing hysterically)) “Alexis, slow down and say it again”
girl: I need my FORK-AND knife”
mom: Ohhhhhhh………
Happened to a buddy of mine about 5 years ago. She still can’t live it down.
8134. mully
November 22, 2008 @ 10:29 am
Allison: I wasnt offended and I can well imagine you were praying to God she didnt actually mean what you thought she meant.
Luvs: We probably have 5 of the Trivial Pursuit games, Genus being the first one out, so the first one we bought years ago. The kids decided a few years ago to buy the 90’s edition. Oh WOW! I totally suck at that one and my kids are great at it. So naturally I dont ever want to play that one! I think I must have slept thru the 90s.
We are a somewhat competitive family and both my sons are unbelievable when it comes to sports trivia. They really are well informed about sports. Katie and I are better on entertainment and the arts and science. My husband snores in the living room when we play. He’d rather sleep or watch tv than to bother trying to outshout any of us. LOL!
For Christmas a few years ago someone bought me the video version of Trivial Pursuit for movies and I think we have a music one. If you dont have these, they are really alot of fun.
Great way to spend a few hours.
8135. Allison G-MOD
November 22, 2008 @ 12:11 pm
I looove board games. I wish Dh did as much as I do. We did a game night at a friend’s house with 4 couples about 2 weeks ago. We played Scrutineyes. It’s so much fun! Have you ever played it?http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/1835Each team gets a big card packed with images, and you need to find everything that fits in the category, like things beginning with “S”, or “Song Titles”. Kinda like I Spy.
A funny story, though. We had this game when I was in middle school, and I was thinking of it last winter. So I bought it on eBay for like $33. Played it, had some fun.
Well, Dh was getting ready for hunting last week, and was handing me a buch of stuff we had left in the trailer over the Summer. So I’m standing out by the door, and he yells out “What’s all this stuff? Put it in the garage.” And I look at the stack of board games in his hands, and there’s Scrutineyes!
My mother must have put a stack of some old games into our camp trailer the last time we visited her! I felt so burned! I just paid $33 for that game a few months ago!!!!!! There was also Scattegories and Outburst in the stack, too. Good thing I didn’t go out and buy those yet; they were on my list!
8136. mully
November 22, 2008 @ 12:27 pm
Love Scattegories and Oodles too and oh..BOGGLE!
8137. tiffany
November 22, 2008 @ 12:57 pm
Hi everyone!! I haven’t had a chance to go back and read all the posts from the last time I was here…but I wanted to highlight some comments I glanced thru…
For instance, I am amazed that anyone can argue that because cameras have been on Maddy and Cara since they were 4 or so, that they would be comfortable or okay with their life being chronicled. There is no normalcy with cameras in your home, disrupting your schedule and exploiting you to America and the world. They had no choice in being cast in front of a camera (which reflects upon Jon & Kate’s decision making skills as parents). And I do think Maddy’s behavior is directly tied into the cameras, the lack of attention from Jon & Kate and the life they lead. It goes beyond labeling her simply as a brat or disturbed child.
On another site, someone made an interesting point. They said that Kate admitted that the children receive different discipline from on the camera and off the camera. If that comment is true, then that explains why Maddy’s behavior is terrible and why some of the sextuplets also behave badly. If Jon & Kate are lenient on punishment while in front of a camera, don’t you think the kids would realize they can get away with much more? You can’t have different types of punishment because a camera is on to when they are alone. It’s conflicting punishments and the kids will never learn what is appropriate or inappropriate behavior. Anyone notice how sometimes they punish one child for hitting another and then the next day when the same thing happens, they ignore it? There’s no stability to discipline or punishment.
And as to all this debate on why we like or dislike Jon & Kate- my main problem with Jon & Kate has to do with their manipulation of charity and of systems that are set up to help families in need. Initially when the show began, I was all for helping them out. A family of 10 is at a disadvantage and I couldn’t imagine raising 8 children. But as the show went on, I began to notice that Jon & Kate didn’t appear to be grateful for anything they received from people. The attitude felt more like a “I deserve it” than a “I’m thankful or grateful” for help. Today, they live the life of millionaires. They are getting paid for the show, receive numerous free gifts and are well taken care of. But instead of earning any self-respect by working or volunteering at charity centers for families, they continue to hold their hands out and accept lavish gifts such as free travel, vacations, etc. They are leeches that take advantage of charity and good-hearted people. And this reflects upon the lessons they are teaching their children about life.
I also became disgusted by their apparent disregard for those people who helped them out when they initially had the babies. We’ve all heard about the Aunt Jodi spectacle and seen people who were initially on the show disappear with time. The kids have lost caregivers, family they were close to and are now isolated with strangers and nannies. Jon & Kate have worn out all friendships and ties to family. That also sets a bad example for the kids.
Overall, I have no respect for Jon & Kate. They have taken advantage of people around them and often played the Christian card to excuse their behavior. From what I know, Christians don’t lie and steal (which is how I feel about what they’ve received) free money and gifts when thousands of families suffer daily. There is no conception of love and care to other people. It’s 100% about them and what they want. Their children have even become strong bargaining tools to convince people to hand over hard earned money and gifts.
I have not watched this show in months and have no intention of contributing to their scam!! They need to be yanked off the air and exposed for the liars they are. Maybe only then will they open their eyes and see the damage they have caused their family and those who tried to help them out.
8138. mully
November 22, 2008 @ 1:57 pm
No arguments from me Tiffany. I totally agree with everything you said.
8139. luvs2sun
November 22, 2008 @ 1:58 pm
Tiffany - Great post and I agree 100%. I am wondering if your post reflects most of how the viewers feel, why doesn’t TLC address any of these concerns? I know countless letters have been written to TLC and their sponsors and the only response anyone has received is basically that they will forward it to the appropriate department after thanking them for their letter. When are they going to answer the concerns of their viewers? Same with Figure 8 and some of the companies that Kate Gosselin has become a spokeswoman for like K Mart and that grain company.
8140. CarolAnn
November 22, 2008 @ 3:50 pm
LMBO Kelly…that is too cute!
8141. Lauren
November 22, 2008 @ 4:09 pm
Great post, Tiffany. Jon and Kate have repeatedly said that they feel God was leading them in “this” direction to help others in their situation. If that were the case, I believe that they actually could have been inspirational by doing only periodic updates, showing large families how to deal with every day struggles in raising a large brood. If God had anything at all to do with this, and Jon and Kate were listening to Him, they would be doing His work, and not taking advantage of His blessings. Because they put themselves under public scrutiny, it may be God’s way of showing them the err of their ways. After all, Kate believes in God punishing her children, even.
I have a question: What do you think the ratio of J&K fans is to their critics? I ask because I’ve read online that there are only a handful of “us” who don’t like them (”haters”) as opposed to the millions of fans out there. I’m wondering if it’s true. Are there really that few people who believe they are exploiters and manipulators and liars?
What do you think?
8142. judyd
November 22, 2008 @ 4:48 pm
Hello ladies, I have been lurking here for a few months and have decided to jump in on the conversation. I cannot stand J&K and keep hoping the show will be canceled. The last episode I watched was the beach vacation but check here and a few other sites to read about what stupid things they said or did on the show. I am a mom of three and grandma of two lovely girls and just cringe at the way Kate treats her children. As far as her husband, those two deserve each other. I can’t imagine treating my husband with such disrespect. Awful, just awful. I feel sorry for the children having those two as parents.
Anyway, I wanted to comment to momof3. I totally understand what you are going through with your children. My daughter has Asperger’s and my son has ADHD. They are now 25 and 27 and I have a close relationship with both. My daughter was diagnosed with it when she was in 5th grade. Back then, there was very little information on it. Thank goodness, today there is a wealth of information on AS. A website that I found helpful is aspergersyndrome.org. We had some rough years as the kids were growing up (as I am sure many of us on this site have had also) but she turned out to be such a lovely young lady. She works in a local department store and they just love her there. She drives and paid for her own car and is responsible for her car insurance. My son has a 2-year-old daughter and she is the light of her aunt’s life. She is happy with her life and I am very proud of all she has accomplished. If you have any questions about AS please just ask. I am no expert, but I have been where you are now. You can emai me at judydx@yahoo.com.
8143. *Jan*
November 22, 2008 @ 4:55 pm
Hi Lauren, Tiffany, everyone.
I think seriously, that their fans are dropping as quickly as the stock market does on certain days now.
Let’s face it, upon viewing the first program or two, we were ALL pretty much fans of the show.
8144. luvs2sun
November 22, 2008 @ 5:18 pm
I wonder what “situation” Jon and Kate are referring to because the only situation I see them in is having to make decisions as to what freebies to take next. Maybe it’s time for the “others” to help them in the situation they’ve gotten themselves into!
A few months ago there was an article online about the Gosselins. I can’t remember who published it but it was mainstream article and not tabloid related. After reading the posts, it was mentioned that it was about 50-50. Again, this was months ago before Paul Peterson, the without pity blog, departures of Aunt Jodi and Beth, the Hawaii fiasco and the home purchase. I think that the scales have tipped against the Gosselins since the article was published. I really don’t know how much longer they can keep fooling their fans into believing that they are just an average family trying to make ends meet with 8 kids. I can’t believe they still beg for handouts at their speaking engagements and worst of all, people give them money!!!!! It’s so unbelievable to me!
8145. *Jan*
November 22, 2008 @ 5:41 pm
I had another thought when I saw the vow renewal. I don’t know if anyone else felt this way.
When the family was in the “chapel” there was a lot of loud talking and acting up.
I just thought that they should have shown more respect while in the “chapel”.
Even in a hospital, or a public building that offers a chapel, usually there is a respectful atmostphere.
8146. mully
November 22, 2008 @ 6:21 pm
I am watching a repeat episode right now which is about how they met, how they got married, how they got pregnant with the twins. etc.
During the description of their first wedding, there is absolutely NO mention by either one of them about wanting to be married in Hawaii. They mention how they got married at a friends house, a lovely, 1920’s stone house, how there were relatives and friends there and how it was a “flower” wedding, but no, not ONE mention of how they had wanted to be married in Hawaii. The only possible mention of anything remotely having to do with Hawaii, is when they mention that they went to Disneyworld for their honeymoon and Kate says that she wishes they had gone to an island.
All she could talk about about during the renewal episodes was how they had wanted sooooooo much to be married in Hawaii the first time around.
Another lie I think to bolster the notion that the trip to Hawaii was more than just another freebie they simply couldnt resist.
8147. Lauren
November 22, 2008 @ 7:18 pm
Mully, I’ve been watching the same episode! I posted on the other blog about other inconsistencies in their “story.”
They had NO help, didn’t need help, didn’t want help with the twins. But Nanna Joan is the same woman who cared for the twins that cared for the sextuplets.
Bill (somebody) came to them about doing a special. But in that episode, Kate is in a home video explaining her routine, introducing the kids, etc., and at the end she says “Thanks for watching our tape!”
Please. She SO shopped her family around for the highest bidder.
Also, it really bothered me when Jon said he had a girlfriend when they met. And Kate immediately said, “And she was gone the next day.” That sounded so malicious and evil to me. Then they showed another home video on Christmas morning before they were married. It was 7 a.m., and Kate was in her pajamas. Jon didn’t know what hit him. She had a plan. In the span of 5 years, Jon went from having no ambition, no goals, living with mommy and not wanting a wife and kids to having 8 kids.
There is something really wrong with this couple.
8148. Valerie
November 22, 2008 @ 8:25 pm
Boy is my computer slow tonight. I just wanted to put in my two cents.
Tiffany, great post. I think that all the controversy over this show is generating publicity. TLC doesn’t care whether that publicity is good or bad as long as they continue to get ratings.
Lauren, I would think that there are more critics of J&K than fans.
Most of us were fans when the show first started but have since seen the light. J&K are their own worst enemies.
Jan, You’re absolutely right. They should have shown more respect while in the chapel. For such religious people they were very disrespectful.
They used the whole “we wanted to get married in Hawaii” as an excuse for why they were going to Hawaii. The same way they used the time difference to explain their side trip to CA. Once they got to Hawaii there wasn’t any mention of having to adjust from CA time to Hawaii time.
8149. luvs2sun
November 22, 2008 @ 9:39 pm
Hi judyd - Welcome to the site. I agree totally with your post! I look forward to reading more from you!
Shoutout to Momof3 - (((HUGS))))
8150. mully
November 22, 2008 @ 9:50 pm
Lauren: I was really disturbed by this episode. There are so many inconsistencies in the Jon and Kate of then and the Jon and Kate of now. Did you notice that Kate mentioned how Nana Joan babysat Jon when he was a little boy? My God! Where is she now? This is a woman who has been in Jon’s life since he was a child and now, she appears to have vanished into that vast black hole that simply eats all of Jon and Kates relatives and friends up and then spits them out.
I was also struck by the staged(ness) of both of their explanations of where their parents are. Ive seen this show before, but when I watched it today I really paid closer attention than the first time I saw it.
Whoever was doing the “interview” made a clear point of asking about J/K’s parents and why they arent in their lives which struck me as being solely for the purpose of answering the growing questions about their families i.e. lets put an end to these endless questions about where the grandparents are.
Kate REALLY stumbled around on this. So did Jon. I came away from that believing more than ever that some really big rift had to have happened.
Neither one of them REALLY explained or answered the question. If anything they skirted around having to give any sort of explanation at all, except to say that some grandparents arent in their grandchildren’s lives. LOL! Who? I dont know any grandparents who arent in their grandchildren’s lives unless they live a long distance away and even then, they call or send cards. This whole thing is really strange to me.
After they fumbled around for awhile trying to xplain the absence of Jon’s mother and Kate’s parents, I love how they summed it all up by saying something about not needing anyone anyway.
How easily these 2 seem to end relationships and then summarily dismiss the people in those relationships as tho they never mattered.
8151. soulmate72008
November 22, 2008 @ 10:03 pm
hello everybody ,well ive been watching these two and their offspring since we first received it here in the uk.
I know we`re way behind you in the schedules ,as ive not seen alot of the episodes you have been talking about.
wow ,i didnt realise quite how disliked this couple were?!
I must admit i thought the kids were cute ,did understand that all 8 cant be well behaved 24/7 ,and genuinely took my hat off to them ,in coping with the day to day needs of so many little ones/
ok,but~~i DO have a gripe!
My intense groan ,HAS to be about the way kate is so undermining of her husband ,who it seems ,99% of the time ,is scared to open his mouth ,or respond to her agressive behavior!
hardly the example for her children.Btw ,is it me ,or is maddy just like her mother??Not just the paddys ,but the way she too disrespects her father ,treating him like a sibling ,and not her parent.
as time has gone on ,this woman has gotten so bad ,she grates on my nerves.
what happened to the “estatic” mum of 8 ” amazing” kids??
All she does is moan (and i get that she is tired ,who wouldnt be?) ,but then why invite the cameras in 24/7 ,to add more agro into your day??
Yep ,sorry ,cute kids ,but parents?????
8152. tiffany
November 22, 2008 @ 11:15 pm
I think the grandparents issue is a perfect example of Jon & Kate’s isolation of friends and family. I also immedaitely questioned where their parents were and what led to the apparent split. Even though I have a grandmother who I only see at Thanksgiving and Christmas, we still associate by phone every so often and she is always aware of what is happening in my life.
The only people who suffer by these rifts and splits are the kids. Remember how often they went to Aunt Jodi’s? Seems like she had them all the time. The kids played with her children, were comfortable around the home. Now, they’ve been completely separated from a source of stability. And honestly, I believe the stories that have surfaced about Kate using the children as leverage against other people. From the beginning I thought the entire scenario about the gum/Jodi deal was a front to excuse why Kate decided to cut Jodi out of the picture. And we are talking about her sister-in-law, her brother’s wife. Remember how often Kevin helped Jon do chores around the home?
It’s disgraceful to see how many caretakers have disappeared since the show began. I guess you can only burn people so many times before they finally walk away. And I am sure why some of them stuck around for so long is because they cared about the children.
And as to TLC, I am sure as long as the show generates income, they will ignore the requests to have it yanked. And I too am curious about the percentage of those opposing the show to the remaining fans. But I believe like everything else on TV, it will eventually come to an end. How often can they hold viewership before more and more people open their eyes to the scam or at least grow weary with seeing them travel to a new expensive location every week? I am wondering how long they really expected the show to last (well, besides Kate’s claim that they never knew how long it would continue- maybe she was secretly referring to when they sucked everyone dry)?
8153. luvs2sun
November 22, 2008 @ 11:50 pm
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8154. amy
November 23, 2008 @ 2:33 am
I think if I were a viewer who watched each episode as it aired, didn’t generally watch repeats, and didn’t read these blogs, I probably wouldn’t have noticed the repeated inconsistencies and other issues many of us have with the program and/or the Gosselins. At this point I have to admit that I think I am (and probably others are) looking for the negatives. I don’t like the way that makes me sound, but it’s probably the truth. Mine, anyway.
8155. luvs2sun
November 23, 2008 @ 3:08 am
Amy - For me it was the inconsistencies that led me to google them to find out what the heck was up with them. I have read numerous posts and comments on various sites stating the same thing.
8156. *Jan*
November 23, 2008 @ 6:50 am
Yes, and it began when Kate snagged him at that company picnic or gathering. It always sounded strange when she said that the girlfriend was gone the next day… Sounds like he was caught up in her whirlwind….after all, he’s not the go-getter type, it appears.
Although I know he loves his children dearly, I wonder if he ever thinks back to how things would have been……nevermind…I won’t even go there. But it appears that she has “orchestrated” everything in their lives and she is still bossing him around. He’s just like an “extra” on her show.
8157. *Jan*
November 23, 2008 @ 7:04 am
Also, Mully, remember when she relates the story of seeing Jon from a distance? She said that she didn’t “need” a boyfriend at that time; because she was so “self-sufficient.
Have you ever seen her appear to be self-sufficient?
Remember, Jon was living the good life back then, and had no restrictions on him. I think she was brought up in such a severe way. She did mention about disciplining the kids on one program that she had “too much discipline” and that Jon “didn’t have enough” discipline, which made it difficult for them to figure out how to parent the kids. From this I take it that she was brought up in a very strict way, and she couldn’t wait to be free. (remember she says that she liked the “bad boys”) Along comes Jon, and also he was the son of a dentist, so there was no shortage of money in his family. (Don’t anyone jump on me, I have them in my family and they can live the good life, no matter how many kids, etc…)
I think she saw in him, the kind of life that she was missing. So she caught him in her spider web right away.
p.s. she, of course, used discipline, which means teaching in the incorrect way, meaning punishment…because after all…how can you have too much teaching as you are growing up….
8158. *Jan*
November 23, 2008 @ 7:08 am
8159. Lauren
November 23, 2008 @ 4:42 pm
*Jan*, if I ever had any doubt about Kate’s motives early on, watching the episode “How We Got Here,” cleared it up. It’s ironic that they would show that episode after all of the press and controversy of their “re-wedding” in Hawaii.
It’s like Kate really pissed someone off in production.
8160. Lauren
November 23, 2008 @ 4:47 pm
“It’s not like we dont’ love them or they don’t love us . . . um, it’s just better that they’re not in our daily lives.”
WTH?
For anyone who thinks there’s not a story there, get an MRI.
Welcome, Soulmate. Always nice to talk to someone from across the pond! Will enjoy your thoughts about this “show.”