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Jon and Kate plus 8

Posted October 29, 2007 at 1:13 pm by Jessica

If you haven’t caught an episode of TLC/Discovery Health’s “Jon and Kate plus 8“, it just may give you a little solace in the hardships of ones own parenting challenges. Jon (an IT Analyst) and Kate (a former nurse) Gosselin used in-vitro fertilization to help spawn 8 kids. One set are twins and the other six are from a subsequent litter.

Last season, I really liked the spunk coupled with the unconventional and imperfect parenting techniques used by Kate. Although she tended to run a tight ship, she was also human and threw political correctness to the wind when it came to the realities of having 6 toddlers and young twins only 4 years older than the sextuplets.

This season, I have to say, the reality parenting TV show has lost some of its charm with me. Although I enjoy, in a voyeuristic sort of way, watching parenting pained by temper tantrums and legal slavery by way of 6 more demanding children than I am left to deal with, I also have found Kate to be as bratty on occasion as her preschool broad.

In some ways Jon and Kate are very lucky. They have a cozy network of incredibly supportive family and friends who take and/or watch their children frequently. In the first couple of weeks of this season, I watched as Kate went to spa treatments, out to dinner with just her and her husband and plan a vacation by themselves in the Florida Keys. Personally, I know of very few 1.3 children families that are afforded so much free time as they are.

Another less than flattering observation I’ve made — Kate is not very nice to her husband Jon. While Jon is easy going and incredibly accommodating to his wifes idiosyncrasies, she is always snapping at him and making condescending remarks. Is it not enough that he spends all of his time at home helping with the children and goes to work on a daily basis to provide for his classroom of children and thus allowing Kate to be an “at-home mom”. Of course, I can’t imagine that 8 kids in childcare would be worth the effort of working outside of the home, but she always acts as if he is clueless and her life is so incredibly hard. Often times, she resorts to treating him like one of their toddlers.

One episode, Kate decided to hire a cleaning person. Through her exhaustive search, she finally settled on the one person who actually agreed to take the job on — so her prospects were limited. After the brave cleaning lady left, Kate then went around her house with imaginary white gloves, pointing out the hidden dust left behind. “Thanks for trying,” Kate said out loud, along with other rumbles of disappointment. The implication was that the cleaning woman was fired, not up to Kate’s high standards. Of course, you should get what you pay for, but cleaning after 6 toddlers and their bigger sisters, something is bound to get forgotten. Perhaps she should have cut the cleaning lady as much slack as she expects in return?

While Kate seems like a lot of fun and incredibly organized, it’s the little things — weird things — that seem to get her in a tizzy, like what shoes the older girls are going to wear to a carnival or if any of her family or friends puts her out by being one minute late. Sometimes you get the feeling that Kate is nothing more than a control freak, loving every challenge that comes her way, but at the same time, expecting others to reward her and recognize her for having it so tough, when in actuality, she really doesn’t. Sure, having 8 small children would drive the sanest person batty, it has also given them a much desired family and tv show. All in all, they have a pretty fortunate lifestyle.

As much as I like this show, I wish Kate would be less focused on herself and the indulgences of her children and complain less. Most families, even with less children, have their own unique challenges and have many other issues to deal with on top of it. Count your blessings Kate. You are not the first “over-worked” mother and you won’t be the last.

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22771. Mr. Hapa

June 22, 2009 @ 10:53 pm

“Mr. Hapa, I have continually given you the “benefit of the doubt”. You’ve most likely gleaned as bit about us, now I would be curious to learn where you are from, how old your are, your profession, etc. I’m going to guess you are about 18-25 yrs. old, but I’m not sure of your education. Perhaps you’re a “hot shot professional” who looks down on people who are not your equivalent, or perhaps somewhat of a loner who hasn’t yet found his “nitch” and right now are just coasting, or are you are a computer “geek” and somewhat “out of touch” w/those around you.”

Hello Lynda,

I am from the western portion of the country, in my late 20’s, w/ graduate level education. Most of my cousins are lawyers, engineers, CPAs, and small business owners.

22772. Patty

June 22, 2009 @ 11:44 pm

It’s just a really sad situation all the way around. Sad. Sad. Sad.

Here comes the broken record again. I feel sorriest for the kids. They are the ones who have been used and betrayed.

It’s going to be real interesting to see what the show ratings do, what the book sales do, what the DVD sales do, how many speaking engagements get nuked, and how much less is in the love offerings.

It must have been very hard for their extended families to watch that show tonight. Kate should have started thinking about being afraid of being alone before she kicked everybody to the curb and drove all her family members (and Jon’s) away.

Like the old saying goes, “it’s lonely at the top!”

22773. mully

June 22, 2009 @ 11:54 pm

I kept thinking of one of those cheesy paperback Harlequin romance books that says “her heaving breasts was causing his loins to be on fire” LMAO….unless you saw it, you won’t get it. She was in a quite scooped neck top, and them there new booties, were overflowing at the top. She sure did whip up that sympathy card in no time flat though. Not to mention, putting herself in the pathetic victim mode.

Lynda: I saw it and I couldnt agree more! I kept thinking..”if she even bends over a little bit, those suckers are gonna pop right out”.

Wonder how long it will be before it’s acceptable to officially date Steve? I think she played the “I don’t want to do this by myself” card, so that when Steve comes out of the background, she can say, how thankful she is to not have to do this on her own.

TOTALLY agree with you.

22774. NanaJan

June 23, 2009 @ 12:25 am

Oh Lord. I’ve only gone to Disney at Christmas time, and even at that, my hair doesn’t calm down until I land back in icy Boston!

22775. Tiffany

June 23, 2009 @ 12:50 am

This message is about Jon and Kate Plus 8. I have been watching this show since it came on t.v. I’m sadden to see what Fame and Money can do to people who are given the chance to make there life public. I don’t beleave that they would be in the situation they are in now if it wasen’t for the fame and tabloids and cameras in there homes each and every day. Marriage is something you have to work hard at. They just seem to throw it away like paper. I feel sorry for those children there the one’s going to be hurting through all of this. The right thing to have done would be stop the show and say our marriage and kids come first so we need to work on this. Who cares what everyone else thinks at the end of the day family is what matters. They seem to have put the money and fame once again over there marriage. Just a few words to let free. I really had alot of respect for this family they seem so true and real. Once again its just another couple that let fame take over there lives..

22776. NanaJan

June 23, 2009 @ 12:51 am

PJ — I enjoyed your blog. Good work! I also loved hearing tha song by Luther Van Dross again. Always loved him.

22777. Pete

June 23, 2009 @ 9:56 am

I can’t help but also feel that the parents, particularly the father, was too quick to throw up hands…and quit. I think all the hand-outs, perks, $$, media attention, gifts, etc enabled him to wash his hands more easily of the marriage than if they were on their own, trying to provide the financial and emotional nurturing that their brood requires.

22778. SummerFun

June 23, 2009 @ 10:05 am

Valerie:

How do you do it? I admire your stamina! We cut our trip short. I have never known heat like that. One night the heat index was 106 (at 11 p.m.). We couldn’t do anything! Even the pool water felt like a hot bath…nothing cooled us off except staying inside in the air conditioning. Bugs biting at my ankles made sitting outside unbearable. Not even the beach bar and several drinks under my belt eased the situation! We’ve owned property in Florida and I can’t remember ever having been that hot.

Mully:
I sweated like a herd of buffalo! In less than fifteen minutes outside, I looked like I had taken a shower. I threw all of our clothing into a garbage bag to bring home. I’ll be doing laundry all day.

So…what happened since I’ve been gone? :-)

22779. SummerFun

June 23, 2009 @ 10:28 am

I cant help but also feel that the parents, particularly the father, was too quick to throw up handsand quit.

If someone is constantly made to “feel like a frigging dog” in a marriage, have to witness tirades by a control freak, would they stay in a marriage when they were told point blank that it was over? Doesn’t Kate always get her way? Perhaps he was just too tired, and dragging it on was not an option.

Jennie:

While away, I was late for a dinner reservation (due to the fact that I had to change clothing three times because of the heat), and when we got there, I said, “This is the earliest I have ever been late” — a “Yogi-ism.” I was thinking about you. Did you say that you babysat for him? How old was he at the time?

22780. Valerie

June 23, 2009 @ 10:40 am

Summer You certainly picked the wrong time of year to visit Florida. Honestly, these past few weeks have been the worst.
Thank God for central air. During the summer months we try to stay indoors as much as possible. I don’t mind the heat, it is the humidity that kills me.

22781. SummerFun

June 23, 2009 @ 10:51 am

Valerie:

I’ve never known it to be that hot in June! We’ve been there so many times throughout the years, even when school is over, but it’s never been that hot! I can remember when we owned property there that even the month of August/September was at least bearable. I can remember, as a kid, at first we didn’t have central air, but we lived through it.

This was just the worst — maybe because I’m older and have less tolerance for humidity! We have heat waves with high humidity in PA — but nothing like what I experienced last week in Florida!

One night the kids wanted pizza (around 11 p.m. or so). It was too hot to go out, so I ordered. When I was on the phone, I heard this deep sigh from the delivery guy. When he arrived, he looked like something the cat dragged in. I mean — this guy was soaking wet! He said that his boss had no sympathy. I felt so sorry for him, and gave him a nice tip. I watched him shuffle away to the car, feeling really lousy that I made him come out in that heat.

22782. SummerFun

June 23, 2009 @ 11:34 am

I thought Steve’s wife was going to come out and say that their marriage was wonderful and there was no truth to the rumor? Did I miss this?…
Did we ever find out why Steve’s address and Kate’s address are one and the same? Nobody here seems to know…

22783. Valerie

June 23, 2009 @ 11:46 am

Yeah, it has been really bad for the past couple of weeks. I sure hope it breaks soon.

22784. mully

June 23, 2009 @ 11:48 am

Welcome home Summer!

I know how god awful hot its been in Florida. Several friends were there last week, in all different locations, and I was getting text messages left and right about the heat and humidity.

It was pretty hot and humid here in Ohio too, but I know nothing like what you had down there.

You were on the money last year about Jon and Kate, and while Ive never doubted your sources or information, I hoped against hope that they could find a way to work things out.

Its clear that Kate is beyond reasoning with and Jon has finally realized that and is moving on with his life.

I hope he finds happiness.

22785. SusieQ

June 23, 2009 @ 12:01 pm

Luvs posted another interview given by Kevin and Jodi last night and from the sounds of things, they are REALLY upset. As I was listening to them talk, I was wondering if they have ever been to the new house to see the kids. Would Kate let them in if they appeared at the gate? Would Jon? I kind of doubt that Kate would greet them with open arms, but I’ll bet it would make the kids’ day to see Uncle Kevin and Aunt Jodi again — especially now.

22786. mully

June 23, 2009 @ 12:16 pm

I watched the vid with Kevin and Jodi. I do have to wonder, again, at this point, especially with the newest developments…where is the rest of the family??

Why arent we hearing that Kate’s parents or Jon’s mother or SOMEONE is getting involved in the day to day concerns over the 8 kids?

I find that strange. I asked myself how I would be responding if these were my grandchildren and if Kate and Jon were my daughter or son and I have to say, that while I would try to keep a low profile, I would HAVE to do something.

With the media attention surround these 2, you would think that if there had been any involvement by the families (other than Kevin and Jodi), we would have all heard about it by now.

22787. Valerie

June 23, 2009 @ 12:36 pm

I don’t understand it either, Mully. Where are all these people?

22788. Patty

June 23, 2009 @ 12:44 pm

Why arent we hearing that Kate’s parents or Jon’s mother or SOMEONE is getting involved in the day to day concerns over the 8 kids?

With the media attention surround these 2, you would think that if there had been any involvement by the families (other than Kevin and Jodi), we would have all heard about it by now.

I don’t know anything, but I’m guessing that Jodi & Kevin are the “spokespeople” for the family. I know they’re not on Jon’s side of the family. I think Jon’s side is just staying out of it. Too many cooks spoil the broth! I think it’s best to just have Jodi & Kevin speak on everyone’s behalf. I’m sure, sooner or later, the Gosselin side of the family will surface. Maybe not. I don’t know.

OMG…I was going to type J & K instead of spelling out Jodi & Kevin. Who else has J & K for initials? I NEVER noticed that until just now!

22789. SummerFun

June 23, 2009 @ 1:09 pm

Mully said:

Welcome home Summer!

You were on the money last year about Jon and Kate, and while Ive never doubted your sources or information, I hoped against hope that they could find a way to work things out.

Thanks. I have never been so glad to be home from a vacation! I can breathe again! There wasn’t a breeze, not even on the beaches!

Yeah, there are times when I hate to be right. I also remember posting after the new house episode aired that after the divorce, Kate would stand at her window and say, “This once was all mine. Now it’s half mine.” I knew it was just a matter of time. I knew it was going to happen — it was just sooner than I expected.

This whole fiasco is just plain crazy. She’s nuttier than a fruit cake, and the sad thing is that after all of this, SHE STILL DOESN’T GET IT! How blind can one person be when they can’t see that a family is destroyed — all for the sake of greed?

She lost her family. She lost her friends. When the show ends, she will be a nobody. When the children are old enough, they will be out of there faster than bats out of hell.

What is she going to have left? The cars, the designer clothing? Her new boobies (until they rupture)? Yes, sir — all of the things that really matter in life! Steve? How long is he going to take her garbage? She’s toxic — she’s never going to learn and will keep destroying everyone and everything in her path.

How long will the public have to watch this mushroom cloud?

22790. SusieQ

June 23, 2009 @ 1:30 pm

I agree with you Summer — after all of this . . . she still doesn’t get it. That’s the most frustrating part. She will never ever admit that she is at fault. I wouldn’t be surprised if she doesn’t even go after TLC down the road and say that they’re the cause of all her problems. I am glad that Jon is finally speaking up, however, he is still clinging to the show, in spite of all his complaints that he doesn’t have a life, etc. He just doesn’t want to give up the money. To me, the fact that Kate (and to some extent Jon) wants the show to go on in spite of all that has happened, speaks louder than words. It proves that Kate’s priorities (and Jon’s) are not with the children. Neither one of them want to give up on the money and freebies. Last week alone, Jon came back to the big house with a new BMW and Kate went out and got a brand new Toyota SUV. They’re spending money like crazy. What are the kids getting out of this show? Kate and Jon have gotten white teeth, new hair, designer clothes, new boobs, new tummy, new tan, new motorcyles/scooter, bodyguards, new cars, and on and on. The kids have gotten to go on some hurried vacations, complete with camera crew, some crooked houses, matching clothes that they can’t dirty, and a driveway to play on which is part of a great big new house and now two screwed up parents who can’t abide each other. And everything has been for the kids because they deserve it. Give me a break.

22791. Valerie

June 23, 2009 @ 2:20 pm

Everything we do is for the kids

Really? - even this divorce is for the kids so that they can have some peace. Aren’t those kids so lucky that they have parents who do everything for them and only them?

22792. Valerie

June 23, 2009 @ 3:28 pm

CNN polled viewers on whether or not the show should continue under the circumstances. Over 80% of viewers polled felt that the show should continue. Are people really that selfish and addicted to the show? How many sheeple are out there?

22793. PJ

June 23, 2009 @ 5:26 pm

Thank you Mully for reading the blog.. today made a bit more logs…Don’t go there if you want to cry, its a memorial type thing I placed. You all are becoming people I want to talk to and learn more about..!!! Feel as though I know you all a tiny bit anyways!! Thank you for having welcomed me a ways back! YES, Its severely hot in Florida, if I had my way would move up north with my Aunt, Uncle and cousins.. not feasible though….

At this point I really don’t care about Kate and Jon… only the children. One thing I know, in my heart of hearts, and I may not be alive to see it, is… Kate will look back and regret many, many, many things she has done, that I promise, she may not make it publicly known but it will happen. Money can only in its self make you happy for so long. She has never had anything so huge happen to her ever in her life… and she blind right now, but in time all will come out. Its seems some of us here have grown children… do you remember post puberty, in your children? There body changes etc and it wont be long before it starts with the first two, time will have its way. I remember once when they interviewed on their Sofa, and Matty was there.. and Jon forgot to tell or did and they didn’t listen about one of the tups breaking the toilet. When Kate SCREAMED ” you didn’t tell me this”, Maddy screamed, ” Me either”. Sometimes she appears to be a reflection of her mother, I have seen it, have you ?? That is pretty sad if you see what I see!!!! Its coming, and will be a very hard lesson for all of them :(
Right now they are stuck in “Kid Mode”, but years will have its ways with this situation…Sad thing though… there is always Trama, in a Drama situation, a given.. sorry they didn’t know the cards that they were being dealt..and again I say Hindsight is 20/20, since the cards are now played out, they have no choice but to play them.. and again I say I feel for the children. Once you break bounds between a man and a women, who the children look up to, the children will begin to feel many things that will hurt them, I think some of the frustration the children at least the oldest ones are showing, is due to this separation, it was there before we knew… and that we didn’t see in the mix. They knew long before us!! The younger six also, but showing in different ways. In years to come after the limelight dies, as I have said before, there will be remorse for wrong doing, and told to the ones who did it, and why….:( That is a given, sadly but true!

22794. PJ

June 23, 2009 @ 5:32 pm

“And I meant don’t look at my blog right now if you don’t want to cry” sorry for not having good typing skills lol grr

22795. Lynda

June 23, 2009 @ 5:42 pm

Just saw on opening screen in Yahoo, they are actually going on hiatus til Aug. 5th or thereabouts.

http://tv.yahoo.com/jon-kate-plus-8/show/42651/news/urn:newsml:tv.tvguide.com:20090623:1007197__ER:1

Where is the vid of Jodi and Kevin? Radar?

22796. PJ

June 23, 2009 @ 5:43 pm

Thank you ladies, so many for being here, I had to vent a lot of things, about this show, I don’t think will watch it any more,cause I know now what will happen… not totally non of us will but there will be anger on the part of the children, I promise you that, most of us never got to see videos of our lives as they have… not like that!
However they will look back as time goes on, omg God bless them.. I feel for Hannah, little mommy, as I do all of them, God, Kate just doesn’t know… Jon feels his hands are tied. When he finally got his spotlight with the motorcycles, Geez, who the heck stepped into the middle of it?? KATE! He cant say a word, he cannot move without her, saying something or doing something to make her right in the front of it all.. Like I said, time will have its way…its not up to me, many not you all, who knows, but, I know time will take center stage.. in time:):)

22797. Lynda

June 23, 2009 @ 5:45 pm

Also, according to documents filed, they haven’t lived together for 2 yrs.

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/ny-etjonkate0624,0,6842259.story

22798. PJ

June 23, 2009 @ 6:01 pm

Thanks Lynda, hey as I said some time back they were getting a divorce, was to be 5 days after this segment, who knows with Tv time…..omg this women is portraying a women in distress…hmmm wrong answer! She is not telling the truth, I have her ticket, as many do!!! However, still her time will come.. that she will know what she has done..its going to happen!! God, in his time will take care of this, through all the pain and suffering the kids will go through, but she ( Kate) will know in the end what she did was wrong, mark my words, even if I don’t exist in the future and you all get to see it!!!!! Kate… you can’t take all the tangible items with you when your old and gray and your time comes, should have known… That family is everything!!!!!!

22799. PJ

June 23, 2009 @ 6:17 pm

Like I said they know more than we do!! Hey media won’t stop anything that is in secret, to drop their ratings… They will mask what it takes to make a show go on!!! No matter what it takes.. If you noticed it doesn’t over time take them long for Paparazzi to catch up, its the territory….and someone catches something, that sparks things… This young couple has known along time, many of these factors. However, they didn’t guard what was most important.. their core.. the foundation that they built, even with rough tracks…they fell in the well sorta!!! Darn the media, the producers, they have fault also… My main concern will always be these young lives that trusted two people they loved as one…. that stings.. I was in my 20’s when my parents divorced and there were only 4 of us!!!!

22800. SummerFun

June 23, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

This young couple has known along time, many of these factors. However, they didnt guard what was most important.. their core.. the foundation that they built, even with rough tracksthey fell in the well sorta!!!

Foundation of what? Foundation of love? I don’t believe that for a minute. They never built any kind of foundation. Foundation of greed would be more like it — and that was poured the minute Kate hatched her Grand Plan.

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