Jon and Kate plus 8
If you haven’t caught an episode of TLC/Discovery Health’s “Jon and Kate plus 8“, it just may give you a little solace in the hardships of ones own parenting challenges. Jon (an IT Analysist) and Kate (a former nurse) Gosselin used in-vitro fertilization to help spawn 8 kids. One set are twins and the other six are from a subsequent litter.
Last season, I really liked the spunk coupled with the unconventional and imperfect parenting techniques used by Kate. Although she tended to run a tight ship, she was also human and threw political correctness to the wind when it came to the realities of having 6 toddlers and young twins only 4 years older than the sextuplets.
This season, I have to say, the reality parenting TV show has lost some of its charm with me. Although I enjoy, in a voyeuristic sort of way, watching parenting pained by temper tantrums and legal slavery by way of 6 more demanding children than I am left to deal with, I also have found Kate to be as bratty on occasion as her preschool broad.
In some ways Jon and Kate are very lucky. They have a cozy network of incredibly supportive family and friends who take and/or watch their children frequently. In the first couple of weeks of this season, I watched as Kate went to spa treatments, out to dinner with just her and her husband and plan a vacation by themselves in the Florida Keys. Personally, I know of very few 1.3 children families that are afforded so much free time as they are.
Another less than flattering observation I’ve made — Kate is not very nice to her husband Jon. While Jon is easy going and incredibly accommodating to his wifes idiosyncrasies, she is always snapping at him and making condescending remarks. Is it not enough that he spends all of his time at home helping with the children and goes to work on a daily basis to provide for his classroom of children and thus allowing Kate to be an “at-home mom”. Of course, I can’t imagine that 8 kids in childcare would be worth the effort of working outside of the home, but she always acts as if he is clueless and her life is so incredibly hard. Often times, she resorts to treating him like one of their toddlers.
One episode, Kate decided to hire a cleaning person. Through her exhaustive search, she finally settled on the one person who actually agreed to take the job on — so her prospects were limited. After the brave cleaning lady left, Kate then went around her house with imaginary white gloves, pointing out the hidden dust left behind. “Thanks for trying,” Kate said out loud, along with other rumbles of disappointment. The implication was that the cleaning woman was fired, not up to Kate’s high standards. Of course, you should get what you pay for, but cleaning after 6 toddlers and their bigger sisters, something is bound to get forgotten. Perhaps she should have cut the cleaning lady as much slack as she expects in return?
While Kate seems like a lot of fun and incredibly organized, it’s the little things — weird things — that seem to get her in a tizzy, like what shoes the older girls are going to wear to a carnival or if any of her family or friends puts her out by being one minute late. Sometimes you get the feeling that Kate is nothing more than a control freak, loving every challenge that comes her way, but at the same time, expecting others to reward her and recognize her for having it so tough, when in actuality, she really doesn’t. Sure, having 8 small children would drive the sanest person batty, it has also given them a much desired family and tv show. All in all, they have a pretty fortunate lifestyle.
As much as I like this show, I wish Kate would be less focused on herself and the indulgences of her children and complain less. Most families, even with less children, have their own unique challenges and have many other issues to deal with on top of it. Count your blessings Kate. You are not the first “over-worked” mother and you won’t be the last.
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181. Meghan said:
January 14, 2008 @ 10:36 pm
My boyfriend and I are both fans of the show and while we have no children as of yet we see a lot of ourselves within the Jon and Kate.
I took an organized nut case and the same thing goes with cleaning. To be frank that is much needed to run a household as such. I commend her for all hard work she does and will continue to do for the rest of her life.
Jon works every hard and meshes well with Kate. It is impressive.
Sometimes I notice the comments and harsh tones with each other, but it’s not just Kate. Jon can be just at mean to her as well. They are under a lot of stress and I’m sure Personal Space doesn’t exist not to mention limited quality time as a Married Couple, so there are bound to be these problems.
This show has made us desire to have children when we are ready. I think it is a good tool for people to watch on what it takes to make a household run.
182. chris said:
January 15, 2008 @ 12:30 am
I find it interesting that everyone is questioning Kate’s parenting skills. I think people should really look in the mirror.
183. Mary said:
January 15, 2008 @ 12:43 am
I, too, was fascinated with the concept and watched the first season with enthusiasm. But, I have to say that this season I have tried to watch, but can’t sit through the whole episodes. I can’t stand Kate. She berates Jon in front of the kids and is very full of herself. If that is how she acts when she is being “watched”, how does she act when she is without the cameras? Also, her twins are brats. That trip they took to NY on their b-day to visit the American Girl store and they were whining all the time?????? Give me a break!
The other commentators are correct when they say that she does not realize how lucky she is. Now she’s looking for a nanny so that she can spend at least 10 hours alone a week?? HELLOOOO I have a 7 year old and a 3 year old. I work full time. I can’t even go to the bathroom alone.
184. Crystal said:
January 15, 2008 @ 12:52 am
Kate does degrade jon sometimes, but what woman doesn’t degrade their man anymore. And when she is under pressure all the time. She shouldn’t do it but she does. And she is a neat freak so that doesn’t help.
I really like kate and jon. They are a lovely couple.
If you were kate and stayed at home with that many kids all the time, no time off hardley ever!!! let me remind you.. You would Be grumpy too. But she gets through it just fine. So they argue here and there. Couples do that!!! You can really tell though they love eachother so much and still have that connection!! That is very important with that much stress.
And i like the fact that kate and jon does so much with them. Takes them to new places all the time, playtime, and other fun things. Most parents with that many kids cant do that or chose not to. But they are lovely!!!
And i also agree with what Josephine Said. Very well put!!!
185. Diann said:
January 15, 2008 @ 2:02 am
I really enjoy this show because I enjoy seeing the children. I wish they would show more scenes with the little ones. They are so cute when they talk and ask questions. They seems to have a good vocabulary for such young children - that has to do with how language they are exposed to.
I think one of the points made by the show is how difficult it is to have a strong marriage, a job, private time and share a home with 8 demanding little people. There are struggles and the show brings those struggles to light.
Jon actually does stand up for himself, he just does it with less drama than Kate does.
I think her nursing education has a great deal to do with her being such a germaphobe. It sould never have occurred to me not to walk barefooted in a hotel room but it made me think and I probably will think twice about it in the future.
I know that there are probably hundreds of thousand of families who would like to have the advantages that Kate & Jon have(the vacations and other things) but dont be hating on them because they were savy enough to market the situation to their advantage.
I think that it is how Kate contributes to the family income -so she is able to stay at home with her children and still bring in an income.
I am glad she did - cause we get to see her adorable children.
186. Paulette said:
January 15, 2008 @ 9:07 am
Warning - I am not a fan of Kate’s so if you are you may want to stop reading now. Those of you that are so sure Kate is a great parent and does a wonderful job of handling all of her stress - do you not think this TV show is added stress???
The ONLY reason they do the show is for the perks because NO, SHE CANNOT HANDLE IT. Someone posted an article about her having a full time nurse for the first year of the babies lives because they were disabled. That was cut off when they turned one and kate needed to find another way to handle this. And, I think it is interesting that the kids only play with each other - I admit I haven’t seen every episode but I haven’t seen any play dates, or interaction with other kids. Why? They really need socialization outside their family. Is it the germs? Or is it that Kate would not have control of the entire situation? Or could it be that if one of the kids hauled off and whacked another person’s child with a toy or a hard plastic cup, she wouldn’t know what to do.
Now here comes the part you Kate fans probably really don’t want to read. I would love to see a show called “What Jon is REALLY thinking”
Have you noticed the looks on his face sometimes and just thought what is he thinking?
“What am I doing here?” “Will someone please shut her up?” “Where are my balls?” “How can I fake my own death?”
Just kidding on that last one - I think he will stick around because he knows he needs to be there to provide normalcy for them - and he obviously loves them a great deal.
187. Jenn said:
January 15, 2008 @ 9:42 am
I watch jon and kate plus 8 all the time and for all you viewers out there with your outrageous comments about kate have no idea what’s it’s like to take care of all those kids at once ofcourse she’s gonna be a little bitchy. I take care of nine kids at once on weekends three 8 yr olds, one 5 yr old, one 2 yr old, two 1 yr olds, one 5months, and one 1month with the help of my cousin staycey you could only amagine what we go thru and believe me its not easy. So I understand where kate’s comming from and she’s a wonderful mother to her kids and a wonderful wife to jon.
188. Jessica said:
January 15, 2008 @ 11:58 am
I love this show. If you have negative things to say about it, stop watching it. Those of us who are actually seeing the good things about this family are sick of hearing you put down Kate and her family. People are not perfect and we all make mistakes. If you feel that she is mean and abusive to Jon you have not been in an abusive relationship. She is not abusive verbally, nor mentally. Yes, they may argue, but who doesn’t. And for those of you who are using the religion card…that is wrong. If you go on their web sight they do mention their religion. Good for them. The Bible states that we are not to judge. That is what you are doing. They are a great family and if you would stop being so negative and judgemental about them you would see the good of this show. They have taught me a lot about parenting. Kate showed me that being organized helps you be have less stress. If you can get up on a Sunday morning, feed all eight children a healthy breakfast, clean up and dress all eight and make it to church without being late…that is amazing! They have also shown me that you can have a constructive argument with my spouse in a way
that it does not scare or harm your children. If you are not seeing those things you are watching the wrong show. This is not MTV’s Real World , this is a families Real Life.
189. Paulette said:
January 15, 2008 @ 1:02 pm
To Jessica - you are very negative and judgmental of people just because they do not agree with you.
And Diann - they are savvy enough to market the situation???
Don’t you mean market their children?
GOOD parents make decisions that are in their children’s best interest. These kids have no choice - it is their parent’s decision to use them as a source of income.
It is exploitive and I really believe they are going to eventually regret it.
190. jennifer said:
January 15, 2008 @ 2:26 pm
I agree with you Jessica, and Diann right on sister..
to Paulette, it’s really none of your business what Jon & Kate chose to do with their lives. If they want to put their children on tv (as you put it exploit them) it’s their business, and I don’t think they will regret it or damage their children by doing so. Get over it, turn off the tv, don’t watch it if you don’t like it……
191. mary said:
January 15, 2008 @ 4:35 pm
ok, I continue to watch Jon and Kate + 8 and any show on multiples. They facinate me and I am so proud of myself for finally being able to tell the GossElins’s apart. I do feel that Maddy needs to have her bottom blistered with the way she acts. She is horrible and her behavior should not be tolerated. Kate may need to tone down the barking of orders, but I personally think she does it to keep reminding herself what she needs to do. She is re-affirming to Jon and herself out loud.
192. Mary said:
January 15, 2008 @ 7:29 pm
I agree with Paulette. I only watch the show so I can make fun of Kate. If I allowed myself to be on a reality show, I would accept the fact that people would watch me mess up too. That’s why we watch it. Let’s not forget that Kate is doing this to support her family because she cannot afford 8 kids. If I had 8 kids and someone offered me a show, I would accept it with all the consequences so that I could feed my family. No I am not perfect. That’s why it is fun to see someone else make mistakes too. This is the price she has to pay for: 1)Free Trip to DisneyWorld 2)Free Trip to California 3)Free Trips to outings when the Cameras are around 4)Free trip to the Islands. If she accepts all of this she has to accept the backlash. Not a bad price to pay.
193. Paulette said:
January 15, 2008 @ 8:01 pm
Jennifer - you say what Jon and Kate do is none of my business like I am intruding into their lives - this show is as much all of our business as any other show that is on television. They made it the country’s business when they decided to do it and this website allows all of us to comment. I actually like the show - like any reality show, we tune in to see what lengths people will go to and Kate never disappoints with her obsessive, neurotic behavior and her contradictory parenting methods.
I relate her parenting to parents of child stars and we all know what happens to so many of them.
194. MILLIE said:
January 15, 2008 @ 8:49 pm
I HAVE WATCHED JON AND KATE ON AND OFF FOR A PERIOD OF TIME—ITS OBVIOUS THAT THEY ARE GETTING PAID VERY WELL FOR THEIR SHOW. I HAD SUSPECTED ALL ALONG THAT SOMETHING WAS NOT QUITE RIGHT ABOUT THEIR SITUATION. I DETEST THE CHILDREN HITTING EACH OTHER—AND IT SEEMS THEY ARE NOT VERY WELL DISIPLINED FOR THEIR ACTIONS–REMEMBER THE DION KIDS THAT WERE MULTIPLES–THEIR FAMILIES LIVING WERE FROM THOSE KIDS.IT ACTUALLY MAKES ME SICK, BECAUSE I LIVE IN AN AREA WHERE KIDS GO TO BED HUNGRY AND THE ONLY FOOD SOME GET ARE WHAT THEY GET AT SCHOOL. THEY ALSO DO WITHOUT MEDICAL ATTENTION,GLASSES, AND THEY DO NOT HAVE NICE CLOTHING. YES, THEY RECEIVE SOME SORT OF AID BUT WITH THE SIZE OF THE FAMILIES IT JUST DOES NOT GO FAR ENOUGH WITH THE EVER INCREASING COST OF LIVING.
195. shelia said:
January 15, 2008 @ 10:01 pm
I never cease to be amazed by this show. Why do I watch————guess to reaffirm my opinion that these people are using their children as pawns. Kate is manipulating and controlling. Wonder why she couldn’t “control” Maddy’s behavior on her birthday—–duh—and yep, she is right, Maddy is going to be some sort of a teenager!! If my child had come in the house kicking balloons that were meant to be part of decorations for her birthday, that young lady would have been sent to her room with no birthday party! My mother would have never put up with that sort of behavior and neither would I. I wonder, in the long run, will these people regret their decision to be on national TV. But then, how else could Kate be a “star”. Is the money really worth what it is going to cost in the long-run?
196. Pants said:
January 15, 2008 @ 11:28 pm
Although I can agree AND disagree with a lot of what people are writing on here my question is this….if you were there, filming this type of family and were a crew memeber, how tempted would you be to help out when Kate’s back is turned? Ive seen a few hints of this, especially on the show last night. How tempted would you be to “tattle” on one or the other of the kids for hitting another? I know I would be tempted to give Kate an extra hand or comfort one of them that gets hurt. I just wonder how much the crew really does help out and if Kate is getting too used to it? The show cant go on forever, this season is already getting complaints!
197. Vicki A said:
January 15, 2008 @ 11:30 pm
Sheila- right on with comments about Mady’s behavior prior to the party… Oh my! I was amazed that she was allowed to behave that way. The little ones are sent to “time out” for a LOT less bad behavior than that! Maybe this new nanny, who if I am not mistaken is going to school to be a Child Psychologist, can turn Mady around. Kate scolded Jon on Monday night’s episode because he reprimanded Collin at the table for pushing his cereal bowl back in anger. She said Jon scolded Collin in a way that he did not explain to Collin what he did that was wrong. She told Collin,”Ignore Daddy. Daddy is mean.”… well, I did not see anyone explain to Mady that what she did was wrong.
198. Pants said:
January 15, 2008 @ 11:32 pm
Oh and one other thing….is Maddy the devil or is that normal behavior???? (I dont have any kids) She seems like a mega brat or is she just trying to be heard amongst 9 others?
199. Brandi said:
January 15, 2008 @ 11:34 pm
I cannot believe how most of you see Kate. I think she is a wonderful mother and has more patience with 8 kids than I do with one!Do you feed your kids healthy everyday?Or Sweep and mop 3 times a day? If you tell your child to go to the corner do they just go? Because mine doesnt. It is the first show with kids that is like a real household. She doesnt baby talk and think her kids are perfect like most tv parents do. She is the most “real” parent I have seen on tv.
I personally would handle some of their tantrums a little different but that’s my own reflection on it.
200. Vicki A said:
January 16, 2008 @ 12:07 am
I do think overall Kate is a good parent and the way the household is run keeps me coming back to watch. I enjoy it so much and look so forward to it. Many times I watch it all over again when it is repeated later in the night. Many things Kate does I view as effective parenting. I just see a little inappropriateness toward Jon. However, last week during the zoo episode, Jon got a little out of line when he was upset that Kate was in the alligator area “playing” and left him “stuck with Collin”. Kate was just trying to enjoy the animals with her kids. I take most of the things that happen on the show lightly with the exception of Mady’s behavior. I think I would at least TRY to do something, especially if I were on TV, but maybe Kate has found that this is better than a big brawl with Mady.?? I cannot say that I was that calm even with ONE, but Mady’s behavior does concern me. She is really jealous of Cara, but I don’t see Cara acting that way towards her. It just seems to me that much of Mady’s enjoyment in situations is lost because of her jealously toward Cara. Sad.
201. Elise said:
January 16, 2008 @ 12:31 am
I love the show, including Kate. I feel they are very real, I have only 2 kids, I can’t even imagine. I myself trying to keep up bdays, picures, making things special. My hats off to Kate (and Jon) for taking the time and effort to do all those special things, keeping her kids neat and clean, celebrating milestones and making them special. It is very easy to just say oh well, whatever, it’s too hard. No one has time, but she makes the effort and the time. I think they are great, I get a kick out of them. Jon makes me laugh too, he’s cute. I find them very refreshing
As far as the children, they are well taken care of and all have different personalities, no matter what, kids will be kids, some listen, some never do, some easy going, some sassy, and some are drama queens, I have a little of all of that in my kids, that is what kids do. The only thing you can do is guide them and do the best you can. As far as trips and whatnot, who is anyone to tell anyone where they can go, or how they spend their $$, give me a break. I know people with one kid who are too lazy to pack up and go anywhere, never mind 8. I wonder about all the postings I skimmed through how many actually have kids of their own, babysitters and nieces and nephews are not the same, believe me, I found that out. Unless you have custody, you get to go home. Don’t talk unless you have walked a mile in that persons shoes (ever hear that one) People have too much to say in this world today, it really makes me sad, my goodness, so what, she likes things a certain way and it sure looks like she is keeping it together. Seems to me like they do count their blessings, we all have those days. Jon seems a great Dad, a great help, and husband, I have one too, he is the best, (still a man though
do we get crappy with each other once in a while, of course, it’s called marriage. We then go on with our day, we know we didn’t mean it and most of the time it’s the stress of getting out the door or whatever. Sometimes it’s the nature of the beast. Men are like la la la until you are like hellooooo, and then they get it, but I don’t think they will ever totally get it. So I think it is funny, and very real of her, of both of them. Anyway, why see the negative, nobody is beating, or killing anyone, just loving, nurturing, raising 8 beautiful babies and yes freakin out here and there. It’s great! makes the rest of us feel normal
Happy & PEACEFUL New Year to all. Lets be kind.
202. imperfect mama said:
January 16, 2008 @ 10:03 am
I don’t get why so many peoeple give her a excuss.Is having 8 kids that young hard, yes.If she is that stressed out she needs to find other ways to handle the stress.Having a clean house is not abusive but she is OCD clean and that in itself is not bad but the fact that she puts worrying about how clean the base board are before spending time with the kids is what bothers most people.Also many doctors are linking how germ free the average home is to with the development of colds and algeries.It make perfect sense but most people today do not know what common sense is today.Your body doesn’t not now how to handle germ if it never exposed to it and when it is expose to it.When they are expose to it the cold last longer and are more likely to lead to a worse illness since it hasn’t had pratice fighting off germs.Not to say you shouldn’t clean but it doesn’t need to be to the point of OCD.We can say they are normal and that may be true and that may be why so much of society has little to no respeact or consideration but the resultts are the same the kids will not respect Jon when they get older,the boys will think it is Ok to take crap from woman(and there are some contoling abusive woman out there that make Kate look great),and the girls will grow up with a lot of her trait and likly end up being inconsiderate and rusde to others at school.So normal or not it is not healthy in many ways,just because it is normal doesn’t make it right.
203. jenna roberts said:
January 16, 2008 @ 9:10 pm
I think that as far as Kate’s OCD is concerned, it is completely normal when things are “out of control” to find ways to have some control. I think this is where her intense need for things to be organized and clean stems from. The unfortunate thing is once you are introduced to this “OCD” world it can really cause anxiety and stress when things are not 100% up to par. As long as this “OCD” is beneficial then she should continue to clean and organize to her hearts content. In the middle of such a busy life I would think when things are organized it would take some of the stress off of both parents. Having said this, I think imperfect mama raises a great point about how too clean is not always beneficial to health. I will remember this next time I get the urge to sterilize the house:):):)
204. Carrie Anne said:
January 17, 2008 @ 5:13 pm
I watch this show because I like to see every week how much Kate is going to bash Jon! I’m sorry but she goes way beyond just normal “snapping” behavior! I would never say TO THE KIDS “keep eating, ignore daddy, he’s wrong’. That is so not right! Maybe it was ok in the beginning when the kids were really little and didn’t understand but now they are coming up on 4 years old-they know what is going on. Both parents should be on the same page (at least in front of the kids).
I also think Kate has a lot of issues. What was the point of her rushing to make the cake and then hide it so the twins didn’t see it when they came home??? And those twins–talk about anger issues! Actually, Cara doesn’t seem too bad–she is nice to the little ones at least. Although when she got off the bus that day, she just dropped her bag at the curb and Jon was there to pick it up. WHAT? She is 7–shouldn’t she know how to pick up after herself? And don’t get me started on Maddy. I like how someone else called her the devil child! She is really a beast–she stomped into the house, kicked balloons and just stormed off. Kate says that they are “dealing with her outbursts” but I think she needs a good spanking. She always seems to be acting out–and by age 7, she should know better than to hit the little kids, etc. I hate it when I see the kids hitting each other and sometimes Jon and Kate are oblivious. But then Jon will suddenly develop a backbone but snap at the wrong time. One of the kids cry is at the table and starts to cry and basically, he drags them out of their chair and tosses them in timeout. WHAT?? Talk about time out abuse!!! Why don’t you save time out for when something REALLY bad happens. I don’t think a little whimpering at the table warrants the corner.
I don’t know why they would choose to put their lives on TV other than the fact that they get a lot of free merchandise, services, etc. I guess if I had that many kids, I would do it for the money too. I just feel bad because the kids were never asked nor do they have a choice. I hope later on in life when they look back at this, they see it as a positive experience.
205. delores said:
January 17, 2008 @ 10:08 pm
WELL SAID, ELISE!! I have a 6 almost 7 yr old daughter who is very much like Mady–soo dramatic :). But mine is the youngest of 7 and yes part of it is to be “heard” but part is just personality. Sometimes it is just better to let them vent than turn it into a real tyrade. (I know this from experience and I’m sure Kate and Jon do to).
206. Carrie Anne said:
January 17, 2008 @ 10:57 pm
Has anyone been to their website? I hadn’t really read through it before but I just did because someone mentioned it was worth taking a look. Well, now I am disgusted by this family! Did you click on “speaking engagements”?? They are booked pretty much 2x a month if not 3x a month to do speaking engagements!! And the one that really cracked me up–they are scheduled on MOTHER’S DAY!! WHAT??? So you are either dragging your whole litter to these speaking engagements or finding people to watch them while you go off and make a buck? They aren’t all in PA either–some are Louisianna, and my favorite is the one in Colorado! It says “Spa and Resort”. Hmmmm, who wants to make a bet that just Jon and Kate go alone to that one? Or maybe just Kate and her EGO will be attending the conference!!
If you want to go on TV and air your dirty laundry, be my guest but now you know they are just doing it for the cash. How fun is that for the kids? Come on kids–hop in the freaky van because we are going to go and show you off like circus animals. Oh, you want your breakfast? We have to make good time and eat on the road–here is a ziplock with some fruit loops in it–wait are those the ORGANIC loops? Or is Kate going to bring along a portable burner and do her “Special Saturday morning pancake brouhaha”. Give me a break!!
207. Paulette said:
January 17, 2008 @ 11:33 pm
They are also selling DVD’s of the first 2 seasons (and I was really hoping once the show stopped running, the kids could leave it all behind) and a book that Kate wrote (with a co-author) on their website.
My personal favorite is Kate’s 10 tips for parenting.
One of them is always have extra clothing and snacks in case of an emergency.
I guess she came up with that one after the Disney trip and the ice cream incident.
208. jenna roberts said:
January 17, 2008 @ 11:46 pm
I am laughing at your post Paulette, since I also watched the Disney episode where the kids were having the ice cream mess. Can you imagine how this would have set off Kate’s OCD? I have some OCD tendencies but am usually not too stressed to have the kids get messy since I will just put them in the tub before bed and all will be right with the world again:) I do think her advice probably stems a little from her OCD and a little from preparedness. As a parent, I always am thinking of “what ifs” when we take the kiddos out and about. Anyway, thanks for your post it made me laugh out loud remembering that episode where the ice cream ran away on the kids!!!!:)
209. Vicki A said:
January 18, 2008 @ 12:01 am
To Paulette and Carrie Ann…. haaaaaaaa…those comments made me laugh out loud as well!! Especially the one about the “organic loops” and the pancakes… doesn’t Kate know that you can buy really good pancake mix that you just add water to and they are delicious and I am sure non-toxic?!! The kids would probably benefit more from her using pancake mix and Kate actually sitting at the table while they eat instead of throwing another pancake over as they get done. I remember my parents sitting at the table with us as kids while we ate and that memory really stuck with me. My Mom made all of our food home-made, but that is not what means most to me now. And if she was in such a hurry for the birthday cakes to get done, why didn’t she let Betty Crocker help her out JUST THIS ONCE!!! Ya actually have to put eggs, oil, and water in so that is kind of home-made isn’t it?? It is nice to see some funny comments for a change!
210. ESPY said:
January 18, 2008 @ 12:52 am
I LOVE john and kate plus eight, i have no problem with kate’s behaviour, i just love the kids, they are so sharp and intelligent.