Jon and Kate plus 8
Posted
October 29, 2007 at
1:13 pm by
Jessica
If you haven’t caught an episode of TLC/Discovery Health’s “Jon and Kate plus 8“, it just may give you a little solace in the hardships of ones own parenting challenges. Jon (an IT Analysist) and Kate (a former nurse) Gosselin used in-vitro fertilization to help spawn 8 kids. One set are twins and the other six are from a subsequent litter.
Last season, I really liked the spunk coupled with the unconventional and imperfect parenting techniques used by Kate. Although she tended to run a tight ship, she was also human and threw political correctness to the wind when it came to the realities of having 6 toddlers and young twins only 4 years older than the sextuplets.
This season, I have to say, the reality parenting TV show has lost some of its charm with me. Although I enjoy, in a voyeuristic sort of way, watching parenting pained by temper tantrums and legal slavery by way of 6 more demanding children than I am left to deal with, I also have found Kate to be as bratty on occasion as her preschool broad.
In some ways Jon and Kate are very lucky. They have a cozy network of incredibly supportive family and friends who take and/or watch their children frequently. In the first couple of weeks of this season, I watched as Kate went to spa treatments, out to dinner with just her and her husband and plan a vacation by themselves in the Florida Keys. Personally, I know of very few 1.3 children families that are afforded so much free time as they are.
Another less than flattering observation I’ve made — Kate is not very nice to her husband Jon. While Jon is easy going and incredibly accommodating to his wifes idiosyncrasies, she is always snapping at him and making condescending remarks. Is it not enough that he spends all of his time at home helping with the children and goes to work on a daily basis to provide for his classroom of children and thus allowing Kate to be an “at-home mom”. Of course, I can’t imagine that 8 kids in childcare would be worth the effort of working outside of the home, but she always acts as if he is clueless and her life is so incredibly hard. Often times, she resorts to treating him like one of their toddlers.
One episode, Kate decided to hire a cleaning person. Through her exhaustive search, she finally settled on the one person who actually agreed to take the job on — so her prospects were limited. After the brave cleaning lady left, Kate then went around her house with imaginary white gloves, pointing out the hidden dust left behind. “Thanks for trying,” Kate said out loud, along with other rumbles of disappointment. The implication was that the cleaning woman was fired, not up to Kate’s high standards. Of course, you should get what you pay for, but cleaning after 6 toddlers and their bigger sisters, something is bound to get forgotten. Perhaps she should have cut the cleaning lady as much slack as she expects in return?
While Kate seems like a lot of fun and incredibly organized, it’s the little things — weird things — that seem to get her in a tizzy, like what shoes the older girls are going to wear to a carnival or if any of her family or friends puts her out by being one minute late. Sometimes you get the feeling that Kate is nothing more than a control freak, loving every challenge that comes her way, but at the same time, expecting others to reward her and recognize her for having it so tough, when in actuality, she really doesn’t. Sure, having 8 small children would drive the sanest person batty, it has also given them a much desired family and tv show. All in all, they have a pretty fortunate lifestyle.
As much as I like this show, I wish Kate would be less focused on herself and the indulgences of her children and complain less. Most families, even with less children, have their own unique challenges and have many other issues to deal with on top of it. Count your blessings Kate. You are not the first “over-worked” mother and you won’t be the last.
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13231. mommyplus3 said:
July 18, 2008 @ 10:56 pm
goodnight bree! I <3 you
even if i don’t always agree with you. thanks for making this site a fun escape.
13232. mommyplus3 said:
July 18, 2008 @ 10:57 pm
goodnigh iowa!
13233. Mary Beth said:
July 18, 2008 @ 10:57 pm
Good night everyone! Pray for the G’s tonight!
13234. Heather P said:
July 18, 2008 @ 10:58 pm
LMAO MP3!!!!!
That is the way I took it as well, plus the show isn’t about J&K relationships with parents, its about daily life with multiples…
Nite iowafan..:)
13235. Heather P said:
July 18, 2008 @ 11:00 pm
Guess I will call it a nite as well..sweet dreams!
Bree, we all are different, that is what makes this interesting.
Nicely put Mary Beth
13236. mommyplus3 said:
July 18, 2008 @ 11:00 pm
goodnight marybeth…momof3, heather, and everyone i missed.
off to bed in a few…the 13 yo gets haircolor tomorrow…and i need much rest so as not to allow something horrible in my sleepy stupor
13237. Lillyann said:
July 18, 2008 @ 11:06 pm
Checking back in and saying goodnight.
Bree, glad you’re a part of this ongoing discussion
Yes, Mary Beth…prayers for the G’s
13238. GrandmafrmKs. said:
July 18, 2008 @ 11:08 pm
Hey Ladies, take it from Grams, a frienship is very special as you have stated, I lost my two bestest friends in the whole world whem my momma and MIL passed away, and now I’m bawling again, sorry, but God has blessed me with a friend who is the best friend a girl could ask for, (not being mom, or MIL)
You girls and your storues really touch my heart, and as you get older these friend ships get more precious, heres a little quote for all you girls.
Friends are Angels who lift us to our feet,
When our wings have trouble, remembering how to fly.
13239. momof3 said:
July 18, 2008 @ 11:11 pm
Goodnight ladies! Im off to bed now too!
Bree, I think youre great for wanting oppossing(sp) views! We all get our feathers ruffled at one point or another. The trick is to always look at others POVs w/ open minds and eyes! I think we all can learn so much from each other!
Goodnight all!
13240. momof3 said:
July 18, 2008 @ 11:13 pm
Opps..sorry Grams! Goodnight to you too!
13241. Stacey S_MOD said:
July 19, 2008 @ 6:43 am
13023. Elaine said:
July 18, 2008 @ 7:35 am
“Seriously, I would like to know why this blog has a moderator and the CMG blog does not. If anything that other blog is in desperate need of moderation. The fact that people are able to post garbage like that is bad enough, but after going on that site I would hope that Stacey can get on that one as well.”
13242. Stacey S_MOD said:
July 19, 2008 @ 7:31 am
Wow…you ladies have been busy once again! That will teach me for not checking in for 2 days! LOL.
I have some personal issues that need my attention in my “real life” I may be absent for a few days (although I will try my best to check in) I hope you all can keep the harmonious balance going. Even if we get side tracked for a bit…just try & swing the bus back around!
I wanted to address some of the disagreements we have been having. I have said it before (and I will more than likely say it again) diversity is a wonderful thing! We ALL need to be respectful of ALL of our opinions weather we agree with them or not….we also need to post respectfully & responsibly. When somebody posts an “emotional post” it’s our instinct to react with another “emotional post” which starts the ugly stuff! I think we can all agree that we do not want to become CMG II. Thus far everyone has been doing a fabulous job of getting back on track rather quickly…I would just like to see that momentum continue.
I am so happy for some of the “off topic” conversations. I know it irritates some people to no end but it’s a great way for us to realize that even though we may not have the same opinions of the Gosselin’s in common; there are plenty of other things that we CAN relate to about one another. It’s a great way to establish a “friendship” with somebody that you may have originally not been a big fan of. The forum is also a great way to get to “know” one another….if you haven’t checked it out before, simply scroll up to the top of the page & click on community. There are TONS of topics there!!! What’s so nice about the forum is that when someone posts something new…it’s highlighted in yellow until you read it…that way you can always be up to date without having to read through every single post! You can also PM (private message…it’s like the I.P’s version of e-mail without obtaining or giving out your private info) someone who you may have developed a “friendship with”. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT IT’S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO SHARE TOO MUCH PRSOANL INFORMATION WITH SOMEONE YOU REALLY DON’T KNOW. Have fun with it…but be smart…be safe! If you have any questions there are some EXCELLENT moderators over there that you can “PM”.
On a lighter note….my son is 16 so I feel all of your pain with the teenager thing! It’s such a bittersweet time. It’s so amazing to see the people our children have turned into and to know that you had a part in that. It’s amazing to have these adult one on one conversation with them to fully see their personalities and their take on the bigger things (politics, religion, the environment ETC…). On the flip side…they’re almost grown-up…your time with them is drawing near an end. It’s nice to know that your child can use the wings you gave them to fly on their own….but oh my God is it hard to let them go!!!! That thought makes me want to go cry in a gallon of mint chocolate chip ice cream and its only 8:30 am!!!
13243. Heather P said:
July 19, 2008 @ 8:06 am
Morning all!
Just a quick post to say have a great weekend, I have family coming til Monday and won’t have another chance to chat, maybe I’ll cheat and take a peek here and there! LOL!
Be safe!
13244. Janna said:
July 19, 2008 @ 9:13 am
What site is *Edited by Moderator* ? Where did you read about the Gosselins saying something about the National Enquirer? Didn’t see it on the six gosselins.
13245. Bree said:
July 19, 2008 @ 9:24 am
Janna -
*Edited by Moderator*
The message on http://www.sixgosselins.com is not addressed specifically toward the National Enquirer - it is just a message to their faithful fans on the home page about recent controversies.
Someone further up on this board pasted the entire message last night, so you can read it here.
13246. Janna said:
July 19, 2008 @ 9:26 am
What is the new show about this week?
13247. luvs2sun said:
July 19, 2008 @ 9:46 am
/*Edited by Moderator*
National Enquirer article: http://i37.tinypic.com/2le53f4.jpg
13248. Bree said:
July 19, 2008 @ 9:54 am
Janna -
The schedule for Monday, 7/21 says Jon and Kate remember their most embarassing and favorite moments.
Have you had any luck getting into *Edited by Moderator* ?
They have alot of links there and one of them is the upcoming schedule.
13249. jonandkatearegreat! said:
July 19, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
I suppose I lack the understanding of why, if you (in reference to all the critics) feel so strongly that Kate and perhaps even Jon are getting things all wrong, why add fuel to the fire? Why, by your rants, add to their attention? If Jon and Kate Plus 8 is offensive, upsetting, or bothersome to you, truly you don’t have to watch, blog, or repost about how they make you feel. Everyone is a critic! Everyone has these strong opinions hiding behind their computer screens. Why waste your time?
13250. GrandmafrmKs said:
July 19, 2008 @ 1:00 pm
Stacey S-Mod, Thank You so much, for your kind words, and your confidence in ALL of us. I think every one is really trying to keep this a peaceful site, and when it gets a little heated , it soon gets back on track.
I am also glad that we do have permission to get off the Gosselins once in a while and talk mora personable to each other, and if any one is offended than theres always another site they can shift to.
As you said it always does come back around to the show, and most are happy to change the subject at any minute, I think it’s just the one timers that complain about it any way.
We do miss you when you are away, b/c you be da women, LOL
I feel sorry for all you girls with sons, let me tell ya, I have one and the day he got married was such a pain in my heart, but so blessed at the same time, does that make sence?
Talk about me having talks with dear ole’ Dad about our son, wow! I thought when I caught him with chewing tobacco was bad, but the first time a girl 5 yrs older called him, well momma was not happy, and I made sure her momma knew it.
Okay Stacey S our MOD, have your self a good day, again Thanks
13251. Patty said:
July 19, 2008 @ 1:19 pm
Was just looking through some of their appearanes. I think they have such cute little voices. On their Today Show interview, when Aaden’s glasses fell off, he said, “I dwopped my gwasses.”
Ranks right up there with whowever said, “him frow up” when Aaden was sick.
I forget what episode it was, but it was one of their zoo or special day episodes. Collin said, “I yuv doughnk-eys!
They are just too cute!
13252. Lisa said:
July 19, 2008 @ 2:41 pm
Hello to all. I had mentioned in a previous post that I too, along with tons of people I’m sure, wrote to them asking if they had known about Jodi’s sisters site, whether it was real etc. He was nice enough to e-mail me back from his personal e-mail address saying the e-mails that were pouring in heavy, and that eventually they would have to say something. But told me that what was on the site was definetly not true. I for one am happy to see that they listen to their fans and address issues when needed. It was nice of him to take the time, and now I’m an even bigger fan. I got my So Cool Mom tee in the mail today, and again its nice to feel like Im helping a mom get her business off the ground with the help of the show. I cant wait to see the embarassing moments episode!
13253. GrandmafrmKs. said:
July 19, 2008 @ 2:47 pm
Oh my Lord! those kids are the cutest ever! I love watching them, one more little saying Alexis said “Gasses” she was helping Aday with his gasses, so sweet, but yeah the frow up on you hands, that was a tear jerker, Remember the show “Kids say the darnest things” one of my absolute favorites, Bill Cosby is such a great guy with kids, any way my .02 worth.
13254. GrandmafrmKs. said:
July 19, 2008 @ 2:56 pm
Lisa, great, good news about contacting the Gosselins, I know I had e-mailed the women “Ruby Red Slippers” that claimed to be Kates sister, and she responded, but no proof of being Kates sister, Said she could’nt do that to her family,
Oh we go can go on the net and talk horrible about her but can’t put out a picture of you two together?
She was a strange lady, very, very lonely and admitted she was depressed, theres was a whole lot more but it’s (The Blog) no longer up, so to me there was no credability to her story.
13255. Lisa said:
July 19, 2008 @ 5:56 pm
What is most upsetting is the amount of hate and negativity that ate coming from a few sites. Lets all repeat that everyone is entitled to their opinions, but when the person that runs Gosselin’s Without Pity clearly states that she makes the decision wether your post gets shown, well that is the worst amount of false control you can give to someone. I say false because this person, writes comments based on what that person feels yet lets no one state whether its actually truth or not. A blog they did about “Poor Aunt Jodi” was direct quotes taken from the sisters site made to look like the truth. Copied word for word. Also Sitting out the truths which was comments taken directly from the NE article. Then people go on other sites like CMG and “oohh ahh did you see what they wrote?” OHH Kates going down!!! whatever. I think the biggest problems now is that the show is so hugely popular, your going to get crazies who put up stuff trying to make it seem like truth. I feel so bad for people like Kate and Rachel Ray (Have you seen the I hate Rachel site?? Its worse that CMG!) Who have to deal with it. They did a E! True Hollywood story on her and she talked about how she cried when she found that sites like that were up..I wonder if it only ends when she shows not popular. I guess it does…
13256. Patty said:
July 19, 2008 @ 7:58 pm
I wonder when the gravy train is going to pull out of the station without Jon & Kate on it?
Just read the post about them booking and then cancelling their $25,000 speaking engagement. Can’t believe (well yes I can, I guess) they have the macadamias to ask for an honorarium, first-class seats, AND hotel accommodations. I can understand an honorarium, but $25,000? C’mon! That’s just absurd. They can sit in coach just like everybody else does, as far as that goes, too. Their honorarium should take care of the hotel and meals, too, provided they don’t need to stay in a $500/night hotel or eat at all 5-star restaurants.
Now maybe some of you will understand why I didn’t send them anything after I asked what they liked, wanted, needed, and was told what Kate wanted it to be. I guess she’s not very familiar with the phrase “never look a gift horse in the mouth.”
I’m buying their book when it comes out for no other reason than to see what kind of dribble is in there about how tough they have it. HOw much do you want to bet she’ll be duking it out with Beth Carson over who gets the royalties from the sales? I really do wonder how long that
“friendship” will last once the book is out? I’ve learned you can never do business with friends (or family members) and have the same kind of relationship afterwards. It NEVER works.
You’d have to be dumber than a bag of rocks not to see through them. The so-called “good Christians.” I have to say one thing though…they must be smart if they can continue to pull it off because I know I could never do it and get away with it!
I’m not buying the DVDs either. Just the book. They remind me of Jim & Tammy Faye Baker. Remember the PTL club? Yeah, sure…pass the loot is right!
I think Aunt Jodi got shafted pretty good. I wonder how long it will be before Jon & Kate move away from that neighborhood, considering Jodi & Kevin are just a few doors away? I’m sure they’ll figure a way to con somebody into a new home far away from all her relatives that she’s managed to push away.
Oh well…not my problem. I still think the kids are adorable as all get out, and I hope they can live a normal life someday minus the scars of their parents’ greed. Maybe they can take some of their love offereings and honoraria and get their kids some well-deserve mental health. I think they are going to need it someday.
Love the kids. I just don’t like their parents anymore.
It will be a very sad day for all when they are finally exposed for what they really are and when that gravy train goes “wooh-wooh” out of the station without them on it.
Just my two cents worth…OK, so it’s more like $5 worth with me.
Happy blogging!!!
13257. Lisa said:
July 19, 2008 @ 10:08 pm
Ohh Patty what is there to say about your 10 pages worth of 2 cents? People have such issues with people being paid for speaking engagements. Everybody does it, and everybody knows that the more popular a person gets, the more their PR firm will ask for. Now did you ever stop to think that its not them who makes these arrangements? And if someone said to you, well were gonna try to get you first class so you dont have to be hounded in Coach, wouldnt you take it? You lying to yourselves people. Patty the hysterical thing is how you rag on these people every chance you get, but ohh, let me justify why Im buying their book? ohh Please. I for one feel that they should move to a place where they could do their show in piece and not be hounded by lookey-loose. And please for one last time, lets not assume whatever the relationships are between Kate and her friends/family just because you dont see them in next weeks episode.
13258. GrandmafrmKs. said:
July 19, 2008 @ 11:11 pm
Well as momof3 said last nite, if Jodi was such a goody two shoes and truly loved the kids, if this is really Jodis sister, she (Jodi) would not allow this stuff to be on the net, just as Kates suppose to be sister,
“Yeah their my family and I love them, and don’t want to hurt them,” That is the biggest bunch of bull, It would not surprise me at all if these women who claim to be family is not one who blogs with us all the time. We have had ppl come on here and claim to be <friends/ neighbors. a lover of Jons, amd some ppl bought into it, It is hog wash.
Heck they aren’t gonna be on no train, they are gonna be riding in the Armoured Truck as it pulls into the bank vault.
So I do not believe these links to these blogs to be any thing more. than more negativity on Kate. but I’m sure she don’t even care. If my life was bringing me in as much money as these ppl claim the Gosselins get, I wouldn’t give a hoot what ppl said about me.
As far as speaking at churches, the speaker usually don’t ask for a fee, it is given by the church, I belong to one of about 400 and since my husband is a board member, I can tell you, we give plenty for speakers/singers/entertainment. My daughter belongs to one of about 5000, and there church gives 3 times the amount b/c they have 3 services. A church that size don’t consider $25.000 a lot. and what proof is that they cancelled their speaking engagement? some one said it on a blog. Oh my Lord what trash is said on these blogs.
As I said before Lisa ppl will say some thing as a thought or I guess, and a few threads down, some one else will sat it as the truth! Nah, don’t believe it for a second. Half the stuff or really more, is just what ppl think Kate would say or do, b/c she is so bad, But again I say, one thing she is not doing is bloging all day long and hateing ppl she don’t even know, she is too much a lady for that.
13259. Patty said:
July 20, 2008 @ 10:04 am
Yes, I am very much aware of how speakers get paid for their speaking engagements. I worked for a not-for-profit association for 12 years. I worked with the committee who selected the speakers. We gave them a “modestly reasonable” honorarium to cover their meals and hotels. They left their practices for an entire week and spoke more than just once at our meetings. They received nowhere near $25K for their one or two hours of speaking. As part of their speaking agreement, we provided them with coach air fare. If they wanted to sit in First Class, they had to pay the difference. These people were DOCTORS and didn’t have a problem sitting in coach.
And, yes, as a matter of fact, I did have an opportunity to sit in First Class coming home from a meeting once. So, I know what that’s like, too.
I also worked for a company who had the Buckinghams perform at their meeting. Yes, we dealt with their agent and not them directly. So, to answer your question - yes, I think I do have an idea of how it works.
As far as buying their book goes, would it make you feel better if I said I’ll go to Borders or Barnes & Noble and read it there rather than buying it? Would that make you feel better?
I’m not the one creating the speculation about the absence of Kate’s friends and family in their lives or on the show. I’ve read PLENTY of that on these blogs that wasn’t written by me. So, please direct those comments to the people who are speculating and not me.
Take a little of your own advice…stop sitting here all day blogging and saying hateful things to people YOU don’t even know. How about that?
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13257. Lisa said:
July 19, 2008 @ 10:08 pm
Ohh Patty what is there to say about your 10 pages worth of 2 cents? People have such issues with people being paid for speaking engagements. Everybody does it, and everybody knows that the more popular a person gets, the more their PR firm will ask for. Now did you ever stop to think that its not them who makes these arrangements? And if someone said to you, well were gonna try to get you first class so you dont have to be hounded in Coach, wouldnt you take it? You lying to yourselves people. Patty the hysterical thing is how you rag on these people every chance you get, but ohh, let me justify why Im buying their book? ohh Please. I for one feel that they should move to a place where they could do their show in piece and not be hounded by lookey-loose. And please for one last time, lets not assume whatever the relationships are between Kate and her friends/family just because you dont see them in next weeks episode.
13260. Angelica said:
July 20, 2008 @ 11:31 am
I totally don’t get how their speaking engagement fees are any big deal. They are kind of famous right now and if you want someone famous at your function, you pay what they are asking or you find someone else. Hello, it’s a free market; no one is required to pay them one thin dime.
My husband is a wood carver and does demonstrations at fairs, etc. He used to do it for free to get his name out there and then when he became a little bit better known, he started asking for a fee and people paid it or not. Completely up to them.
There are politicians who are millionaires many times over who get hundreds of thousands of dollars for one speaking engagement; certain “celebrities” (Paris Hilton) are paid a lot of money to show up at parties because they bring the press with them. It’s what they do.
I guess I’m not seeing the evilness. This is their source of income now. It won’t last forever; somebody else will be the hot ticket soon enough. Not one person has to watch their show, buy their pictures and books or go see them at a personal appearance. Not one.
If business give them things, I don’t care–they do that to a lot of famous people (with a lot more money than this family)as a form of advertising.
If the Gosselin’s now have enough money for nicer things, more power to them. People certainly know by watching that they have help.
Just because Kate annoys certain people doesn’t mean that J and K are obligated to live a certain lifestyle that certain people have decided is the only right and proper way this family should live. And a lot of it does come down to people not liking Kate and deciding that she doesn’t deserve anything that she has–just my observation. Don’t watch, don’t buy, don’t give them any of your hard earned money if they are so terrible. It just all seems so petty.