Jon and Kate plus 8
Posted
October 29, 2007 at
1:13 pm by
Jessica
If you haven’t caught an episode of TLC/Discovery Health’s “Jon and Kate plus 8“, it just may give you a little solace in the hardships of ones own parenting challenges. Jon (an IT Analysist) and Kate (a former nurse) Gosselin used in-vitro fertilization to help spawn 8 kids. One set are twins and the other six are from a subsequent litter.
Last season, I really liked the spunk coupled with the unconventional and imperfect parenting techniques used by Kate. Although she tended to run a tight ship, she was also human and threw political correctness to the wind when it came to the realities of having 6 toddlers and young twins only 4 years older than the sextuplets.
This season, I have to say, the reality parenting TV show has lost some of its charm with me. Although I enjoy, in a voyeuristic sort of way, watching parenting pained by temper tantrums and legal slavery by way of 6 more demanding children than I am left to deal with, I also have found Kate to be as bratty on occasion as her preschool broad.
In some ways Jon and Kate are very lucky. They have a cozy network of incredibly supportive family and friends who take and/or watch their children frequently. In the first couple of weeks of this season, I watched as Kate went to spa treatments, out to dinner with just her and her husband and plan a vacation by themselves in the Florida Keys. Personally, I know of very few 1.3 children families that are afforded so much free time as they are.
Another less than flattering observation I’ve made — Kate is not very nice to her husband Jon. While Jon is easy going and incredibly accommodating to his wifes idiosyncrasies, she is always snapping at him and making condescending remarks. Is it not enough that he spends all of his time at home helping with the children and goes to work on a daily basis to provide for his classroom of children and thus allowing Kate to be an “at-home mom”. Of course, I can’t imagine that 8 kids in childcare would be worth the effort of working outside of the home, but she always acts as if he is clueless and her life is so incredibly hard. Often times, she resorts to treating him like one of their toddlers.
One episode, Kate decided to hire a cleaning person. Through her exhaustive search, she finally settled on the one person who actually agreed to take the job on — so her prospects were limited. After the brave cleaning lady left, Kate then went around her house with imaginary white gloves, pointing out the hidden dust left behind. “Thanks for trying,” Kate said out loud, along with other rumbles of disappointment. The implication was that the cleaning woman was fired, not up to Kate’s high standards. Of course, you should get what you pay for, but cleaning after 6 toddlers and their bigger sisters, something is bound to get forgotten. Perhaps she should have cut the cleaning lady as much slack as she expects in return?
While Kate seems like a lot of fun and incredibly organized, it’s the little things — weird things — that seem to get her in a tizzy, like what shoes the older girls are going to wear to a carnival or if any of her family or friends puts her out by being one minute late. Sometimes you get the feeling that Kate is nothing more than a control freak, loving every challenge that comes her way, but at the same time, expecting others to reward her and recognize her for having it so tough, when in actuality, she really doesn’t. Sure, having 8 small children would drive the sanest person batty, it has also given them a much desired family and tv show. All in all, they have a pretty fortunate lifestyle.
As much as I like this show, I wish Kate would be less focused on herself and the indulgences of her children and complain less. Most families, even with less children, have their own unique challenges and have many other issues to deal with on top of it. Count your blessings Kate. You are not the first “over-worked” mother and you won’t be the last.
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301. Sally said:
January 25, 2008 @ 9:44 am
[quote comment="138950"]So here are some thoughts I have had after reading through the posts this evening. It makes my heart sad to read that some of the posters have been treated so badly by their mothers. This is important to note when you are reading their assessments of Kate as they are clearly going to feel bias against her because of this reason. This does not make these assessments accurate in my opinion but I do understand why they would feel so negative after having suffered so terribly from their mothers……..[/quote]FROM SALLY TO JENNA:
Anyone would have to be deaf and blind as well as dumb to think that everyone bases their opinion of everyones personality and parenting style on how they themselves were treated as children. Do you actually categorize everything as it relates to you personally. Well I and many others do not.
I have known well someone(during my adulthood and the time of raising my children) who was startlingly similar to Kate in her parenting style and her personality and it has been long enough since that time to find out how the kids turned out and how they feel about their mother. How many times others around this person had to bite their tongue and ignore quite a lot that was really wrong in such a person’s treatment of her children or her husband. I will not go into detail about the outcome. She had the same brisk, proud of her ability to manage everything which was actually to bully everyone and nobody dared to oppose her because of the unpleasantness that would result. What can you say to such a rude person? Best to try to not be around them. The children and Jon are the reason I watch the show. My family are considerate and well-mannered.
Manners are what make it bearable to be around others. My mother did not go around losing her temper at every little thing. I seldom saw her angry or irritated about anything. In my opinion Kate is very rude and this opinion has nothing to do with how I was reared, it is simply the result of observing many various people during my lifetime, much of which had no direct relationship to my own well-being or my personal daily life.
Thank heavens everything I see does not have to directly relate to me personally.[/quote]
Somehow I did not do this right either time, but the above is in answer to the quote from Jenna which is also above.
Thanks, Sally.
302. Paulette said:
January 25, 2008 @ 8:13 pm
Rebecca -
My mother hugged and kissed me all the time, too - WHEN SHE KNEW SOMEONE WAS WATCHING.
And, how many times have we seen her lack of empathy for those kids?
Dragging them places they have no business being - the furniture store - not taking them home when they are clearly cranky - she is not thinking about them - she is thinking about what she wants.
Children of narcissists deal with it one of two ways - the try to fly under the radar and become non-persons in their household (Cara) OR they become defiant (Mady) - I know because I was Mady.
I see the way Mady cuts her eyes at Kate because I did it to my mother and I know what it means - it is a non-verbal threat that says “I am going to tell everyone that thinks you are so wonderful the truth” - of course, knowing you probably won’t be believed and the ultimate consequences at home, you never tell anyone.
I will say that I believe my mother “believed” she loved me - that is to say by her definition of love, which I think is also true of Kate.
303. Preesi said:
January 25, 2008 @ 9:00 pm
My mom was a former school teacher who sewed all our clothes, made homecooked meals, went to church 3 times a week, yet bore two children that she immediately labeled and pitted against each other, and committed Emotional Munchausens on, meaning, she mentally abused me so Id never be better then her…
So Id never steal her precious limelight.
She taught me nothing, I had to learn everything by myself. She talked bad about all other women. She blamed me for everything…
(wont go into “the rest”)
But never in public!
Everyone thought she was the model, parent…
Like you all think Kate is…
304. jenna roberts said:
January 25, 2008 @ 9:07 pm
Hi Sally,
Thanks for your insight. I do think in certain cases and in some of the comments posted previously that there is clear stated bias. I do not think this is the case for all. I do think for some of the posters here there is clearly some negative insights being given because of and based on anger and resentment they may feel from their own experiences and not necessarily because of “expert” opinion. It should be difficult for any one person to make any “expert” evaluations about this family when we see an hour of their life a week. There are over 160 hours we do not see. To Paulette and to Preesi, my heart goes out to both of you for what you went through with your mothers. I do not know what that is like but my ex husband was a narcissist and after fracturing my face, giving me numerous head contusions, and attempting to strangle me to death I learned what it was like to look into the face of a monster who was truly without remorse or empathy. I do not know what that must have been like coming from a mother. Having said that, I am not in agreement that Kate fits into any category other than stressed to the max Mommy of eight. I will continue to keep an open mind though. Take care:)
305. Vicki A said:
January 25, 2008 @ 9:17 pm
Hey, by the way… if they bought all of the kids the new beds during the furniture fiasco, who do they show some of the kids sleeping on what looks like an air mattress?
306. mary said:
January 25, 2008 @ 11:33 pm
Rebecca, I have PCOS as does my mother and my daughter and many of my female relatives. I am a member of PCOS support groups. I don’t need your link to know what PCOS is. I found Kate’s story odd when she said all her life she had the “feeling” she would have a hard time getting pregnant (really?) I also found it interesting when a local paper interviewed her mother who said Kate wanted twins since she was a little girl.
Then shortly after Kate got married she went to a fertility doctor (without even trying first?) in her statement, she claimed that she had PCOS—basically she doesn’t ovulate. My response was a strong correction, having PCOS does not mean you don’t ovulate! It means your hormones are wacky you produce too much androgen but doctor’s are sometimes liberal with the diagnosis but they would never pronounce a woman anovulate just becuase she had PCOS, that comes with months of tests.
The women I know who are confirmed anovulate were only confirmed after months and months of testing and a year of trying. It is the only way to know that you don’t ovulate at all versus you don’t ovulate every month.(Unless of course, you don’t have any ovaries) Most women with PCOS simply have irregular periods and don’t ovulate every month.
My mom, a mother of seven went for 3 years with no period before getting pregnant with me. I sometimes go for six months without a period but I have had four kids without fertility treatments. I would think having a PCOS diagnosis would send Kate to learn more about women’s experiences with it than just to see it for a reason to get fertility drugs. It is a serious disease and learning to live with it first is important, especially if one wants to have a healty pregnancy/child. You are put on the same meds as a diabetic, which I would think would be dangeours for pregnancy with multiples. So I was really skeptical about her “diagnosis”.
There are many reasons a woman with PCOS seeks a doctor, usually because of signs of their elevated male hormone levels which can produce thick hairy chest/back, very bad acne, barrel chest, balding hair line, only to find they have a more serious problem PCOS that must be monitored closely because it can lead to heart disease, uterine cancer, diabetes, death if not treated with medication. The medicine to treat PCOS –metformin, is disgusting, it makes me smell like rotted fruit. It’s effected my life and sometimes I go off it which is no fun because my symptoms are worse (mustache,bald spot). On it or off it I feel very self-conscious and isolated, however, off it I jeopardize my life.
Being on it makes me miserable because of the side effects–constant nausea, painful fruity smelling gas and diarrhea, bloating. The bright side is I look normal but I go to the gym in off hours because when I sweat the odor is horrible.The support networks are soo important to my not feeling like a freak. I’ve known many many women with PCOS, if Kate has it, she has a very mild case. So mild, I question the immediate diagnosis of not being able to ovulate only 3 months into her marriage.
Doctors don’t advise women under 30 to try fertility treatments unless they’ve tried to get pregnant for at least one year. Women over 30 they advise only six months because they have a higher chance of actually being infertile and are more likely to benefit from the testing which is long and ardous.
I have an Aunt and 2 cousins who are PCOS and anovulate who went throught this process.
Because of my family history and the fact that my right ovary is covered in little cysts, my left has a couple of big juicy cysts, and my uterus is small and tilted backwards, I was considered high risk so my doctor tested my hormones and found I had high androgen and testosterone levels. My OBGYN watched me closely during my first try at pregnance. The first at 23, was rough, I barely produced any estrogen the first trimester, I was hospitalized as I went into labor at 5 mos. I had 3 more preganancies and one miscarriage (also high risk for PCOS)
But no doctor is psychic enough to tell a 24 year old to see a fertility specialist before she even tries because she is diagnosed with PCOS! I wonder how Kate was diagnosed. Some of the hormone tests that are used have to be taken several times as the hormone levels fluctuate naturally. I also found Kate’s story odd that she switched doctors for the second pregnancy. I question her claim in her bio that she doesn’t ovulate and in the next sentence wrote she didn’t want to wait and see so she started fertilty treamtents immediately.Doesn’t sound like an anovulate diagnosis, sounds like a Freudian slip. I think she does ovulate. Both pregnancies she got pregnant within 2 months of starting treatment, pretty remarkable. Switching doctors tells you something too. If a doctor figured out she maybe lied about her periods/PCOS to get fertility treatment or suspects she is purposely trying to use technology to have multiples, he may have refused to give her the treatment she wanted as he thought it was risky for the children and because she didn’t need it.
As a person who understands the real dangers of having PCOS, I am sensitive to Kate who doesn’t match what I know about the disease (except for those who were misdiagnosed/borderline) or women diagnosed anovulate. These women use fertility treatments as a last resort, the health of the baby is most important and worth trying naturally for many months before resorting to technology/drugs. I grew up surrounded by PCOS–my mother was one of six girls, all have it, 3 have heart disease, my mother had uterine cancer, and two have diabetes as well –all because of PCOS. And surrounded by multiple generations with it (19 nieces half with PCOS)–my daughter was put on meds for it at 14–nodulocystic acne vulgaris down to her navel and back and hairy back, sideburns, mustache. I know more women with PCOS than normal women. Kate doesn’t seem like she has PCOS to me, she also doesn’t seem normal.
So Rebecca, its interesting you think I need your WebMD link to learn about PCOS when I posted I have it and know that it doesn’t mean a woman doesn’t ovulate as Kate claimed. PCOS means a lot of things, in fact many women who are diagnosed do not actually have cycst on their ovaries (go figure–Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome) I am sensitve when I think someone is lying about the disease. That they would use it as a reason to get what they want and even jeopardize the health of their children unnecessarily. Think of folks who pretend to have cancer and how it makes others who have to deal with it every day feel, I suppose you’d send them a WebMD link as well.
307. Paulette said:
January 26, 2008 @ 8:01 am
Mary -
I knew it was not normal for a 24-year old woman to get fertility drugs or treatment so easily.
But, not knowing anything about PCOS, the condition Kate says she suffers from, I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt on that -
Your post certainly backs alot of our suspicion that Kate found a way to work the system to ensure she got the twins (and then the tups) her mother said she always wanted. There will be those on here that will argue but I think you certainly are the “expert” about PCOS and I think your anger is justified at a woman (a nurse, no less) who manipulated her way into 2 different doctors’ offices. Thank you so much for the interesing post. It sounds like you have suffered greatly with this condition and I am so glad to hear there are support groups available for you and your family. You sound like a strong woman that has tried to control the disease instead of the other way around. I commend you for that - keep fighting the good fight.
308. Preesi said:
January 26, 2008 @ 9:59 am
Mary, thank you for your story. Please tell these people that PCOS doesnt make you be rude and treat people like sh*t!
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Anyway, Paulette? I think the reason some people are having such a hard time believing Kate is NPD, is because they think that in order to have NPD, a person has to be a MONSTER…
It really depends on the severity of NPD they have.
The worst NPD is Malignant NPD. I dont think Kates NPD is that severe however no one has crossed her yet, so we dont know what shed do if crossed…
So far her plan has gone perfectly for her. I wonder what would happen if someone said NO.
309. mary said:
January 26, 2008 @ 10:34 am
Paulette,
Thanks for the kind response. I could not understand Kate’s sense of entitlement before, now your and Preesi’s posts about Narcissism have explained a lot. I remember Kate Gosselin for making the entire state of PA upset because she tried to get her six children declared disabled so she could get more private nursing medicaid benefits. The state had doctors, child psychologists, and social workers testifying her children were healthy. They’d been in the care of a nurse for a year(Kate is a nurse as well so 2 nurses), 2xweekly visits with doctors physical therapists and home visits by social workers whose records all showed the six were thriving and agreed it was time the state put these resources to other children who really needed the care. Kate was furious, a journalist in the court wrote that Kate claimed that since technology makes multiples possible someone should help her raise the kids (at least she wasn’t claiming it was God’s will)–this stance also ignored the numerous volunteers and neighbors who took special courses set up by a local health agency to learn how to take care of multiples and offered assistance round the clock. The court considered that as well, offered her one more month of support for the transition and make use of her volunteers. Kate cried that they had to be told what to do all the time, the nurse (who changed the diapers, fed and bathed the kids, etc–they weren’t sick) was irreplaceable.
After this court case where she didn’t acknowledge all she’d received but seemed to think everyone owed her even more, even at the expense of other children, folks in PA became convinced she was crazy at that point.
Nice to see folks here admire her tenacity. I never would have thought that she’d reappear 2 years later none the worse for wear and still using her kids to ellicit sympathy from unsuspecting folks. I though she would have grown more focused to their needs and appreciative of the folks in her town, especially those that rehabbed their house. Instead she asked folks to find her a new house because the job the state gave the continuously unemployed Jon (more charity) was too far away, she’s writing a book, has a TV show, tours all over the country for paid speaking engagement and has a website with links to the plastic surgeon who gave her a free tummy tuck, the photo studio who gave her free family portraits, and invites other companies to contact her about posting advertisements. She displays a level of resiliancy I would not have though possible for a woman as overwhelmed as she claims.
Someone wrote here that Kate stated the TV show does not offer college scholarships for the tups. Well she failed to mention that when they were born, the PA Lt. Gov. declared the “Gosselin Six” a state treasure and set up a TAP account for their college education. So, though the TV show didn’t set up a college account, it would have been nice of her to acknowledge the whole state of PA set up a tax-free fund where thousands of Pennsylvanians have contributed their hard-working dollars to pay for her kids education!
You would think after all the angry letters generated by her court case, she would have started chilling and being more appreciative of what she has…no, she’s more self-righteous than ever. What you and Preesi wrote help explain why someone would do/say anything to get what they want, especially while giving an appearance of being so self-sacrificing. I did appreciate the links about narcissism, because apparently Kate’s ego can not be satisfied by the love and support of a whole state.
310. Preesi said:
January 26, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
……….and Discovery Health/TLC jumped on the PROFIT bandwagon without a BIT of conscience as to what this would do to the kids!
Its the Dionne Quints all over again…
But BIGGER and MORE Money and Kate will end up with a Martha Stewart like Kmart deal for Baby/Kid merchandise…
AND years later there will be books by the kids ala Bing Crosby and Joan Crawford…
311. Sally said:
January 26, 2008 @ 2:40 pm
Now hey wait a minute, I happen to love Martha Stewart and what she did for baby clothes at K-Mart. It was so hard, almost impossible, to find all cotton baby clothes for years there. The nasty nylon or whatever the blends of cotton and poly baby nightgowns that once washed and sent through the dryer a few times became rough with little hard “pills” on them, making them uncomfortable and unfit to pass on to friends or relatives w/ new babies. We passed around the lovely cotton knit Carter nightgowns with a draw string at the bottom for many cousins and friends and they lasted forever. When someone decided that they were dangerous and made some sort of law that all children’s sleepwear had to be treated with fireproof material, it was really hard to find any nice sleepwear for kids. Now I have recently read somewhere that exposure to the stuff used in waterproofing sleepwear is not good for people. Now you can buy the all cotton gowns but only in very tiny sizes, and not the same lovely ilghtweight cotton fabric. Or you can buy gowns made in some other countries that were not made to sell here. I do not know whether that same law is still in effect about the fireproofing.
Anyway I love cotton for babies and I admire Martha Stewart, I think she did a lot for the quality of goods at K-Mart, and think she got a bum rap for doing exactly what many many other people had done.
But back to the point, I wish Kate and her family well, mainly for the kids’ and Jon’s sake.
312. Sally said:
January 26, 2008 @ 2:45 pm
PS: Although I do agree that this has not been good for the kids and probably not for Kate and Jon either.
313. mary said:
January 26, 2008 @ 3:30 pm
Preesi, I still have faith that future Gosselin 8 teenagers will be more than enough to take on Kate and prevent another Joan Crawford outcome. Things do have a way of working out in the end and I wish them the best.
Sally, I agree the kids are very, very cute. I would like the show without the parents but then it would be very Dionne-like.
314. Tabitha said:
January 28, 2008 @ 2:57 pm
I’m pretty sure she doesn’t live her life for you or anyone else who watches the show. She obviously is human… God forbid. And you must know exactly what it’s like to have 8 children… since you are so very judging and opinionated about the subject. My gosh! You probably are an at-home mom with nothing better to do with your time than comment on everyone elses… I mean, who else writes a blog having to do with OTHER imperfect families.
I see some of what you are seeing… and I chose to believe that she is doing probably better than me considering the circumstances and that she, as we all should be, are growing and changing.
I hope you grow and change out of this immature stage.
315. Preesi said:
January 28, 2008 @ 5:27 pm
BTW=Kates parents own a trailer park where she grew up
316. Tara From Jersey said:
January 28, 2008 @ 5:32 pm
Preesi, you get lots of Tidbits of Info. Thanks for sharing. I have googled the family many times. How do you know all of this? Please share.
Thanks
317. Preesi said:
January 28, 2008 @ 7:11 pm
I just have a NEED to know what has made her the way she is.
Her parents are still married and she has 2 brothers, 2 sisters.
Kate is the second oldest
Her dad is a Pastor…
OMG I cannot wait to see what Paulette has to say to all this…
318. Sylvia said:
January 28, 2008 @ 7:15 pm
Kate grew up in a trailer park?? That explains a lot. No wonder she doesn’t have them on the show. They probably have 4 teeth between them!!
319. Carina the Lawyer said:
January 28, 2008 @ 8:47 pm
Preesi, please tell us the website you read all that… because i read that Kate’s father had passed- away already. And that her mother was married to someone else now. I did my search by using Kate’s family last name: Kreider and the county she grew-up in: Berks. Well… the show is going to give in less than a 1/2 hr.
320. Preesi said:
January 28, 2008 @ 9:26 pm
http://www.epdcma.org/church_locater_view.php?id=34
(KATES DADS CHURCH)
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Sunset+Dr,+Hershey
(Trailer Park)
321. Essie Lou said:
January 28, 2008 @ 9:39 pm
OK, I found you guys. I tried to watch the show again tonight and I can’t. I just can’t. I can not stand another night of Kate talking to Jon like he’s her dog. Sheesh. If he has an affair, she deserves it. If he dumps her, I’ll be cheering. She is so full of herself has the manners of a bull-rhino. I can not think of a woman who is ruder, meaner and more disrespectful of the father of her children in public.
Thanks for letting me vent. But it’s nice to know I’m not the only one who noted verbal abuse towards Jon.
322. Carina the Lawyer said:
January 28, 2008 @ 9:52 pm
ok, But Preesi, how do you know that that’s her father? When i do the search of ppl w/ the last name of KREIDER in Berks County, there are dozens of ppl w/ that name.
And how damn that they’re showing an old repeat the 2nd half hr.
323. Preesi said:
January 28, 2008 @ 10:03 pm
Because he is married to her Mother
Charlene:
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Kate’s mother, Charlene Kreider, said her daughter always wanted to be a mother. Kate Gosselin always wanted twins, Kreider said, and her love for children influenced her choice to pursue a career as a labor and delivery nurse.
“She got her twins and went beyond that,” Kreider said.
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324. Preesi said:
January 28, 2008 @ 10:05 pm
BTW- They dont live in Berks County anymore.
J&K live in Elizabethtown, Lancaster County and her Parents live in Hershey, Dauphin County
325. Preesi said:
January 28, 2008 @ 10:17 pm
They had to leave Reading, Berks County cause people despised them…
This link is a MUST read:
http://internetservices.readingeagle.com/blog/mother/archives/2005/05/here_we_go_agai.html
326. Sam said:
January 28, 2008 @ 10:24 pm
I CANNOT believe all that I am reading! You people need to focus a little more on your own lives rather than putting down a family that is doing the best that they can! Ok, maybe Kate is a little demanding, but you have to remember that she has 8 children! 8!!! I am a stay at home mom of 3 and most of the time I want to pull out my hair! If Jon was as upset as you all seem to be he would leave her, obviously he’s not that upset about it! He obviously loves her very much! And I’d rather see her be a little rude to her husband and take little things out on him rather than abusing the kids mentally or phyically! We all have to get our anger and frustrations out some way; this is hers! Have you all never been rude to anyone else? Oh…wait a minute…you currently are by posting all these negatives about them! Maybe if we video taped you all day you would find yourself doing the same if not worse.
And all that talk about them “spawning litters”?! Ok what are they aliens or maybe they’re animals? They were conceived! They had these children out of love, maybe not the conventional way but who are you to judge them? I took fertility pills to get pregnant. Does that mean that I “spawned” my kids? Does that make my kids dirty or any of the such?
And who cares where Kate comes from! What she is shit b/c she is from a trailer park? You all sound like a bunch of babies! I think I’ve heard more wining from this site than I do from the sextuplets on the show! What business is it of ours where and when they go on vacation or how much money they’re making off the show?
Do yourselves a favor! If you cannot stand to watch the show then DON’T! Nobody is twisting your arms to do so. But unless you’re God, quit judging them and let them be. Nobody is perfect! We all have our times of being rude, impatient and sassy!
They have been blessed by God with eight beautiful children! They were meant to be long before Jon and Kate even knew each other so there are no “fertility gods” laughing at them now. I wish them all the best in the world! And I hope that someday you all will find it in your hearts to look more at yourselves and find what you can fix about yourselvs than focusing on others and what they can fix about themselves!
327. nikki said:
January 28, 2008 @ 11:15 pm
I love the show ! seriously. im only 17 but i think its a great show. and yea kate can be A LITTLE bossy. but i mean if you had 8 kids under the age of seven so would you. i know i would and i dont even have any kids. but i know how it is with my mom and when youre REALLY stressed out and even though jon is trying to help kate likes stuff to be like “in order” and when ur stressed out and you want somethin to go “right” of course you’ll snap at people sometimes.
welll just sayin :))
328. mary said:
January 29, 2008 @ 1:35 am
Preesi-here’s a link from a reporter who interviewed Kate then she got paranoid and tried to retract everything she said:
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_334106.html
I think there are folks on this blog who aren’t familiar with large families w working moms/ or families who deal with heartbreaking challenges on their own. I think folks respond to the Gosselin situation as a rarity and not just as another family w challenges.
In PA folks liked to point to the Hayes in nearby NJ where they had sextuplets with twin 5 year olds and twin 8 year olds. The father is police officer and they turned down most interviews (Oprah, 20/20) stating they guard the privacy of their family.
Kate is managing her “overwhelmed” life pretty well!She even finds time to do other things, she gives twice monthly speaking engagements all over the country, she’s writing a book, solicits advertisers on her website and has a TV show. Getting those ideas off the ground doesn’t happen by magic, it’s time consuming and takes networking, managing and even campaigning. And as you can see in the above article she’s always made time for campaigning even with 50 plus volunteers many especially trained at her call (see NYTimes article below). When she went to court saying this wasn’t enough, local residents decided they’d had enough of the Gosselins.
Preesi I have more links for you about the Hayes:
http://www.catholiccampusministry.org/KEAN/KEANSantoraArticle.html
And this article in the NYTimes about the Hayes and it interviews Kate:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9C04E2D7163AF934A25753C1A9629C8B63
According to the NYTimes reporter both Kate and Jon lost their jobs.
Granted parents of high-number multiples face a lot of criticism and understandably many prefer to keep their names out of the press as much as possible so as not to get criticized. But the feeling toward the Gosselins in PA is different because they went to the press and the courts demanding more and more without expressing gratitude to those who’d already helped. So yea, moving out of the house that local people rehabbed for free donating parts and labor (and the Gosselins selling it at a profit) irked folks and the grievances poured into the paper. You don’t see this kind of reaction about the other large multiple families.
People feel they got played by the Gosselins and they get annoyed that the Gosselins are even moreso in the public eye than before.
329. jess said:
January 29, 2008 @ 8:58 am
One word,WOW.OK lets start with the people that are telling others to stop worring about them and to get a life,FYI take your own advice.If you took the time to read all the negitive post and not only that respond yourself then you need to take your own advice.Next when people have to resort to things like “get a life” it tell me you run out of ways to defend her.Like a couple of previous poster said if Jon was your brother,son or anyone close to you how would you feel knowing he is treated that way.There is no excuss to treat the one you love like a dog.If she can’t handle the stress she needs to find a healthier outlet.On a side note not everyone who is making negitive remarks sits down to watch it all the time,take me,I only watch it every so often.When there is nothing on and I can’t sleep.
330. jennifer said:
January 29, 2008 @ 10:19 am
I have to just laugh at the people who spend so much time taking out their frustrations on this family! Some of you people must have nothing to do. Yes, I am making this comment, but I have never done it before and probably won’t again because I have better things to do.. I love to watch the show, and yes I love Kate!!
I think Kate is great, say it again Kate is great, and If you ask me, Jon can be a smarta.. and talks downgrading to her.. I just never see the negative side of her like some of you people do… she has to run a household of 10 people, most people couldn’t handle that, I know I couldn’t.. and so what if she has a reality tv show, and makes money.. I think she’s pretty darn smart..
Get over your problems with Kate, find something to do, because frankly we don’t care how much you hate this show, that you keep watching??, why do you watch??
I’m sure all you negative people will just love what I’ve said so go ahead start commenting back, and researching, and googling, and whatever you people with nothing better to do, do..