Jon and Kate plus 8
Posted
October 29, 2007 at
1:13 pm by
Jessica
If you haven’t caught an episode of TLC/Discovery Health’s “Jon and Kate plus 8“, it just may give you a little solace in the hardships of ones own parenting challenges. Jon (an IT Analyst) and Kate (a former nurse) Gosselin used in-vitro fertilization to help spawn 8 kids. One set are twins and the other six are from a subsequent litter.
Last season, I really liked the spunk coupled with the unconventional and imperfect parenting techniques used by Kate. Although she tended to run a tight ship, she was also human and threw political correctness to the wind when it came to the realities of having 6 toddlers and young twins only 4 years older than the sextuplets.
This season, I have to say, the reality parenting TV show has lost some of its charm with me. Although I enjoy, in a voyeuristic sort of way, watching parenting pained by temper tantrums and legal slavery by way of 6 more demanding children than I am left to deal with, I also have found Kate to be as bratty on occasion as her preschool broad.
In some ways Jon and Kate are very lucky. They have a cozy network of incredibly supportive family and friends who take and/or watch their children frequently. In the first couple of weeks of this season, I watched as Kate went to spa treatments, out to dinner with just her and her husband and plan a vacation by themselves in the Florida Keys. Personally, I know of very few 1.3 children families that are afforded so much free time as they are.
Another less than flattering observation I’ve made — Kate is not very nice to her husband Jon. While Jon is easy going and incredibly accommodating to his wifes idiosyncrasies, she is always snapping at him and making condescending remarks. Is it not enough that he spends all of his time at home helping with the children and goes to work on a daily basis to provide for his classroom of children and thus allowing Kate to be an “at-home mom”. Of course, I can’t imagine that 8 kids in childcare would be worth the effort of working outside of the home, but she always acts as if he is clueless and her life is so incredibly hard. Often times, she resorts to treating him like one of their toddlers.
One episode, Kate decided to hire a cleaning person. Through her exhaustive search, she finally settled on the one person who actually agreed to take the job on — so her prospects were limited. After the brave cleaning lady left, Kate then went around her house with imaginary white gloves, pointing out the hidden dust left behind. “Thanks for trying,” Kate said out loud, along with other rumbles of disappointment. The implication was that the cleaning woman was fired, not up to Kate’s high standards. Of course, you should get what you pay for, but cleaning after 6 toddlers and their bigger sisters, something is bound to get forgotten. Perhaps she should have cut the cleaning lady as much slack as she expects in return?
While Kate seems like a lot of fun and incredibly organized, it’s the little things — weird things — that seem to get her in a tizzy, like what shoes the older girls are going to wear to a carnival or if any of her family or friends puts her out by being one minute late. Sometimes you get the feeling that Kate is nothing more than a control freak, loving every challenge that comes her way, but at the same time, expecting others to reward her and recognize her for having it so tough, when in actuality, she really doesn’t. Sure, having 8 small children would drive the sanest person batty, it has also given them a much desired family and tv show. All in all, they have a pretty fortunate lifestyle.
As much as I like this show, I wish Kate would be less focused on herself and the indulgences of her children and complain less. Most families, even with less children, have their own unique challenges and have many other issues to deal with on top of it. Count your blessings Kate. You are not the first “over-worked” mother and you won’t be the last.
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23041. Stacey S_MOD said:
June 28, 2009 @ 12:15 pm
Now Billy Mays is dead! what’s going on???
23042. Valerie said:
June 28, 2009 @ 12:32 pm
Just my opinion here - I think that Kate wearing the bikinis is to one up Deanna. Remember, Deanna was caught on camera lounging in a bikini at the Konpound with Jon. Kate needs to feel adored. She wants to prove that she is still desirable. She is probably feeling very insecure because Jon seems to be seeking out younger women. I really don’t think that she specifically wore it for Steve because she was photograhed wearing the blue one while she was at home without Steve. Honestly, she should have stuck to the tankini. It is much more appropriate for her figure and for chasing around 8 kids.
Now, I think that Kate is infatuated with Steve and I think that she is a flirt. I don’t know for a fact that they are or were having an affair. It’s possible, but I still don’t see any concrete proof.
She does have the perfect cover. Steve is supposed to be with her so when they are pictured together it all looks very innocent. Like I said before, only Kate and Steve know the truth.
23043. Valerie said:
June 28, 2009 @ 12:34 pm
Who is Billy Mays?
23044. PJ said:
June 28, 2009 @ 4:52 pm
Summer, I am not gonna split hairs except I did mention THE LAWS of Divorce in Penn, on page 762, 766, and then again on page 768, I don’t care how any of it is written, it all comes out the same the law is the law…and its very clear, and strictly concerning PA Laws not anywhere else, yes I know you posted one also, we probably were doing at the same time, just as long as everyone here gets to see the laws, what can or cannot be legally done, I believe is the important thing, not who said what or found what!! Hugs
23045. Lynda said:
June 28, 2009 @ 4:54 pm
Summer,
I think I can clear it up for you. She was addressing me, and was saying “Lynda, I sent you, 3 times now, the laws of PA.” PJ has shared with us that she has dyslexia and sometimes her words get crossed. Yes, PJ, you did send them, I forgot. (I didn’t know it was 3X though) But, I was particularly interested in reading the section that Summer was addressing. Sorry, PJ for the confusion.
23046. Lynda said:
June 28, 2009 @ 6:15 pm
kate said:
June 28, 2009 @ 12:36 am
Kate, I recall during one of the FAQ (thats frequently asked questions) episodes, where Kate was asked how she got the kids to go to timeout so readily, without the typical whining, fussing etc. and her answer was “they just do”. I thought it was a lousy answer, but I think a number of women, moms especially, kinda thought the reason they do go to timeout so readily, is perhaps because they know the consequences, that is a spanking. They have stated they spank the kids, the red spoon seems to be the “weapon” of choice, and it was actually seen in Jon’s hand one time in one of the episodes. I don’t have a problem w/a swat on the rear, I guess what is spanking to one person, may be considered a beating by someone who never spanked their children. I dunno. I do know that my grandkids don’t go too speedily to time outs! LOL ????
Mully, I think a no. of people, thought the NC pics showing Steve in sandals, shopping w/the Kate and the kids, in his bermudas, etc. looking quite casual, almost comfy w/the family, raised some eyebrows. Some argued, how can he (Steve) run if the situation called for it, in sandals. Also, pics of him w/the Leah hugging onto his leg and burying her head into him, (his crotch actually) I think just made people feel the whole trip appeared somewhat to be more of a Steve and Kate take the kids to the beach, scenario. Those pics were posted here or at CMG awhile back, and unless you clicked on some of the other ones, you might not have seen some of the more personal looking type pics. Believe it was JustJared site.
Someone mentioned that Kate likes to flirt, and I agree. But, I don’t think Kate flirts without a “reason” behind it. I agree w/Lauren it is totally possible that since J&K have obviously been having problems for a yr. or better now, and Kate and Steve have traveled alone to most of her destinations this past spring, I’d put money on them having had a fling. I believe there’s a reason we haven’t seen Steve since the big D was announced. Was that to separate him from the Gosselin camp somewhat, as in folks might forget about him?
I thought you and I were joking about that very thing, when we both shared we wouldn’t be surprised if Kate, once single, somehow had Steve walk into the picture. Guess it remains to be seen. But, I believe Kate had (or is having) a fling w/someone. It would be interesting to know what Kate is doing now w/her time, when she is away for the wkend so Jon can be w/the kids.
23047. SummerFun said:
June 28, 2009 @ 6:29 pm
Yep…PJ explained that. I couldn’t figure out why she was saying that Lynda sent me the divorce info three times when, in fact, you requested that information from me! She omitted the comma after Lynda, and the “I” as the subject of the sentence. It happens — I just thought I was losing it somehow!
PJ said:
Actually, PJ, it may be the same law, but it’s not explained the same way. The info you sent DOES NOT define “separate and apart” as meaning having no cohabitation. It simply uses the term separation. That’s why many were confused, including the associated press, TMZ, etc.
It’s over and done, and I still submit that it will be questioned on blogs and other online sites for month to come…how a plaintiff could claim she and the defendant were separated when, in fact, it was apparent that they shared the same house. “Separate and apart” means that the residence can be the same, but that a couple is not living together as man and wife. I don’t care one iota who published the divorce laws first, last, or in the middle. My intent was to help Lynda and others with the “separate and apart” thing, and I did find an excellent site that explained it. Some didn’t understand it (and rightfully so), and asked about it several times. I thought I’d help.
23048. PJ said:
June 28, 2009 @ 7:15 pm
It’s in there, however, Summer, yes this is done and over……….
Thank you Lynda, my dyslexia didn’t confuse me, ( its not really bad lol, but can be trying, still trying to get use to it!) I just left some commas out that should have been there, or I should have separated the sentences making it clear as to whom I was speaking to.. that was my mistake! I don’t like nit picking things, lol its one of my pet peeves, that statement is no reflection upon you, by no means… you seem to be one that holds things together… a very good thing! Thank you again…
23049. SummerFun said:
June 28, 2009 @ 7:42 pm
Okay, I am not going nuts, I am not going nuts (or am I?). Here is the info in the link that you provided:
Mutual Consent - A mutual consent divorce will be granted where it is alleged that the marriage is irretrievably broken and 90 days have elapsed from the date of the commencement of an action and an affidavit has been filed by each of the parties evidencing that each party consents to the divorce.
Irretrievable breakdown- If the parties have been living separate and apart for a period of at least two years and the marriage is irretrievably broken and the defendant has either:
a) Does not deny the allegations as set forth in the affidavit.
or
b) Denies one or more of the allegations set forth in the affidavit but, after notice and hearing, the court determines that the parties have lived separate and apart for a period of at least two (2) years and that the marriage is irretrievably broken.
You have a non-contested divorce when both parties reach an agreement on property issues, child , support, alimony, retirement, and any other issue.
If you could please tell me where “separate and apart” here is defined as not living together as man and wife (cohabitation), I think I’ll have more of a grasp on my sanity, because I just don’t see it! LOL!! :-)In this link to the PA divorce laws, it sounds like one must live (physically — different residences) separate and apart.
I need a drunk, er…a drink!
23050. PJ said:
June 28, 2009 @ 8:35 pm
OMG you didn’t go under all the tabs however Summer drop it ok cause you said its over its over omg…. I need a drink now!
This means the same and under many other tabs there you can pick it a part.. none the less it really means the same I done talking to you about this ok Summer really done.
Divorce: Fault and No-Fault
Divorce is the ending of a marriage ordered by a court., In Pennsylvania there are two types of divorce: fault and no-fault. The fault grounds for divorce in Pennsylvania are:
1. Willful and malicious desertion and absence from the marital home, without a reasonable cause, for the period of one (1) or more years.
2. Adultery
3. Extreme cruelty, including any physical or mental cruelty that endangers your safety or health, or which makes continued living together improper or unreasonable.
4. Knowingly entering a bigamous marriage while a former marriage is still existing.
5. Sentenced to imprisonment for a term of two (2) years upon conviction of having committed a crime.
6. Imposed such indignities on the innocent spouse as to render that spouse’s condition intolerable and life burdensome.
7.Insanity or serious mental disorder which has resulted in confinement in a mental institution for at least eighteen (18) months immediately before the filing of the complaint, and where there is no reasonably prospect that the spouse will be discharged from inpatient care during the 18 months subsequent to the commencement of the action.
All fault divorces require court testimony and an appearance by the client. No-fault divorces do not require a court appearance.
No-Fault Divorces in Pennsylvania
Mutual Consent - A mutual consent divorce will be granted where it is alleged that the marriage is irretrievably broken and 90 days have elapsed from the date of the commencement of an action and an affidavit has been filed by each of the parties evidencing that each party consents to the divorce.
Irretrievable breakdown- If the parties have been living separate and apart for a period of at least two years and the marriage is irretrievably broken and the defendant has either:
a) Does not deny the allegations as set forth in the affidavit.
or
b) Denies one or more of the allegations set forth in the affidavit but, after notice and hearing, the court determines that the parties have lived separate and apart for a period of at least two (2) years and that the marriage is irretrievably broken.
You have a non-contested divorce when both parties reach an agreement on property issues, child , support, alimony, retirement, and any other issue.
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Separation
Pennsylvania does not have a legal separation process. The date of separation is important in calculating the two-year time period that must pass before one party can obtain a “no-fault” divorce without the consent of the other party. It is also important in determining the value of the martial property. While it is possible to be separated and still live under the same roof, this makes proof of separation more difficult, Parties should live in two different places during the period of separation.
23051. PJ said:
June 28, 2009 @ 8:44 pm
To all here there is much more to all that PA Law concerning divorce, that is all I am going to say about it! Law is Law.. and its all there, if you want to see it!!!
23052. SummerFun said:
June 28, 2009 @ 8:46 pm
Promise?
23053. PJ said:
June 28, 2009 @ 9:11 pm
At this point, I don’t care, if they ever get back together, my main focus is that, life goes on in whatever normal sense the situation can be! For the children, and parents..The parents have picked their path, now they need to make sure the children are cared for, Kate clearly says” We can’t go back now” so be it, as long as these young children are taken care of, number one, loved, and second their needs are met, I will be ok with it! I honestly, feel they still need to find a way to get back, however been there done that once… and know at that age you really don’t know, if they only knew what I know now they might not make this choice! However that is the way of life.. many have tried to tell their children not to do something and did it anyways! As we all know cannot change others only ourselves, even if they are our children..! So in the end of it all, we cannot change Jon and Kate either, they have to play life out, as long as the little ones they have created are well taken care of, I think they both feel that way! So, will pray for them, still hoping they all will be well, no matter separate or together…
23054. PJ said:
June 28, 2009 @ 9:16 pm
Promise a given and you better do the same
23055. PJ said:
June 28, 2009 @ 9:30 pm
Jessica need to speak to you soon k :)hugs email me at butterlylaa@gmail.com… thank you
23056. PJ said:
June 28, 2009 @ 9:47 pm
Want to say to Lauren, and Mully, and Lynda, Valerie, and I know I am missing someone, hugs to all of you, your dynamic women! You a have so much quality, and thank you for being a friend! As this young couple is finding their end,, so am I
I will continue to pray for you all and Lauren will make some of the dishes you have mentioned as well as many others yummies!!! Thank you for letting me post here! Jessica the owner please email me!!! To all I have spoken to, thank you for your insight, and knowledge, wont forget!! I just cant come back here, don’t feel well enough anyways lol.. Hugs all, Hope you all can find the answers, in the right ways!!!!!!!!!!!!! Butterfly aka PJ
23057. Lynda said:
June 28, 2009 @ 10:55 pm
PJ said:
June 28, 2009 @ 9:47 pm
WAIT PJ, you don’t mean you’re never coming back, do you? I hope you’re not upset over the misunderstanding about the Pa laws. We can all get quite “vocal” in our opinions, thoughts, ideas, etc. Some of us more than others. We all have a tendency to believe that “our” words are the final be-all end-all on a subject. Yet, if we stop and think, hopefully we all realize that everyone’s thoughts and feelings on any given subject are their own, and have just as much merit and value as the next persons. So, I would ask that you don’t leave…please.
23058. mully said:
June 28, 2009 @ 11:18 pm
LMAO!
Good point Lynda.
And yes, I did see the pics from NC with Steve and family and Leah hanging onto Steve.
I guess I just chalked it more up to those kids missing their Dad, knowing that something was wrong between their Mom and their Dad and Steve, since he does seem to be a constant, becoming somewhat a surrogate when Jon isnt around.
I dont think any of us know which way to think about Kate Gosselin lately. Is she the wife who now realizes that what she once had is leaving her? Is she realizing, finally, that she went to far in her unfair treatment of her husband? Or, is Kate Gosselin really the shrew shes being made out to be? Was she really having an affair with Steve months ago, which then caused Jon to go to Kevin and tell him that he suspected Kate was cheating on him and then did THAT fear in Jon, cause him to retaliate with Deanna?
I dont know that we will ever know the true story. I do know this tho. Kate is the easy one to believe the worst of in this mess. Im guilty of it a lot of the time, but again, at least for me, until there is something hardcore in the way of evidence, Im just not ready to nail her to the wall.
23059. SummerFun said:
June 28, 2009 @ 11:23 pm
PJ said:
Excuse me?
Good grief! Lynda asked me for the divorce laws and I passed the link along to her, knowing that the info she needed was there.
What the heck is this “you better do the same?”
23060. mully said:
June 28, 2009 @ 11:26 pm
Just to clarify something.
Not for one minute, do I doubt Kate Gosselin’s ability to actually have an affair. But I wonder to myself, is that because I so readily believe everything she does is wrong or bad?
I have been steadily steeped in disliking her for such a long time that sometimes I catch myself watching a new show and trying to prove myself wrong. I honestly try to give her the benefit of the doubt, because there is something in me, which wants to give her a chance at redeeming herself. I want HER to prove ME wrong.
Unfortunately, it never happens.
So yes, I think she is capable of having an affair. I see that need she has to control and win every situation and that would most likely include taking what she wants, at all costs.
But I am trying to also be fair here and there just isnt enough evidence to indict her in my mind. Everything that everyone cites as pointing to an affair, I can easily come up with a counterpoint, that, at least in my mind, might explain what LOOKS suspicious.
I just wanted to put that out there so that people dont assume Ive gone gaga over “Kate”.
I havent and Im pretty sure I wont ever.
23061. SummerFun said:
June 28, 2009 @ 11:54 pm
To whom does Jessica need to speak? Lynda, Mully…do you know?
23062. SummerFun said:
June 29, 2009 @ 12:00 am
I’m sorry. I figured it out! I was wondering who “k” was! Gosh, am I tired!
23063. SummerFun said:
June 29, 2009 @ 12:07 am
What if she were to pull the plug on the show and give EVERYTHING she’s ever earned, begged, borrowed or stole to charity, devoting herself to preaching about the errors of her ways in marketing her children…so that others may not be lured into the claws of the money monster, all without any kind of compensation?
Snowball’s chance, huh?
23064. Lynda said:
June 29, 2009 @ 6:59 pm
SummerFun said:
June 29, 2009 @ 12:07 am
BWHAHAHAHHAH!
Kate is so strong willed, so driven and so stubborn, I believe, unfortunately, it will take something earth shattering, to shake her out of this quest or mission, she seems to be on. You know, her out of this “drivenness”!
Has it been somewhat “quiet” on the Gosselin front lately, or am I imagining it? I’m sure the deaths these past few days, have stolen their thunder. Perhaps, they actually won’t be on the cover or in any of the rag mags this week! Hopefully!
23065. SummerFun said:
June 29, 2009 @ 7:11 pm
The attorneys have issued a statement saying that they are not speaking to anyone or anything at this time.
Yeah, right…
23066. Lynda said:
June 29, 2009 @ 10:19 pm
I repeat, BWHAHAHHAHAHA….I want to see them keep Kate from talking! THAT would be priceless, Kate not talking for months, she really will fade into the woodwork then! As we speak, Kate is busy filming and promoting her own agenda and continuing to throw Jon under the bus! All you have to do is watch come Aug! Silly attorneys!
23067. PJ said:
July 2, 2009 @ 9:33 pm
Just came on to wish all a wonderful, and Happy Fourth of July, our Independence day !!! Hope you all have a great time, full of fun, cook outs, fireworks and more…. bring in our independence day weekend, with style!!! Be safe!!
Been writing, and soon some of my arts are going big time!!!:) I have been ill
but my own fault, however have to tell you all I have cared for you!!! You are a great group!!! PJ