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		<title>By: Grandma frm Ks.</title>
		<link>http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2007/08/20/butt-slappin-justice/#comment-164973</link>
		<dc:creator>Grandma frm Ks.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 02:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, I don't think Petulant Pixie was dismissing what the boys did, she just said if the girls had done the same thing that would make a difference, and I read where the girls were the ones who started it. I also read where 6 , 3rd graders were going to tie up their teacher and do what? God only knows. but they had duct tape and scissors and several other items to try and confine the teacher. I do think there are to many children left to their own will waiting for parents to arrive home from work or where ever, and no I'm not sure what the answer is, but discipline as well as love should start at home, instead of school and church or babysitters, and then the streets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I don&#8217;t think Petulant Pixie was dismissing what the boys did, she just said if the girls had done the same thing that would make a difference, and I read where the girls were the ones who started it. I also read where 6 , 3rd graders were going to tie up their teacher and do what? God only knows. but they had duct tape and scissors and several other items to try and confine the teacher. I do think there are to many children left to their own will waiting for parents to arrive home from work or where ever, and no I&#8217;m not sure what the answer is, but discipline as well as love should start at home, instead of school and church or babysitters, and then the streets.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesW</title>
		<link>http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2007/08/20/butt-slappin-justice/#comment-164960</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 01:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read Susan Goldsmith's account in the Oregonian. Yes, it was slap butt day, and yes, the girls were as much involved as the boys. There was no mention in her articles or the John Stossel ABC report of acting out a scene from the movie 'Jackass" or grabbing the girls breasts. 

The boys spent five nights in juvenile jail, were strip searched four times and were not allowed to communicate with their parents for the first twenty-four hours.

All for doing the same thing the girls were doing. There's a good chance the D.A. who concocted the charges will loose her job.

Meanwhile, the infamous "power-washer mom" was free for eleven days, to let her daughters welts to heal, was then arrested, spent one night in jail, and probably wasn't strip searched once.

It's too bad Petulant Pixie isn't as concerned about the fact that American women kill more of their own children than any mothers in the industrialized world.

I guess she'd rather ruminate about a couple adolescent boys slapping girls on the butt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read Susan Goldsmith&#8217;s account in the Oregonian. Yes, it was slap butt day, and yes, the girls were as much involved as the boys. There was no mention in her articles or the John Stossel ABC report of acting out a scene from the movie &#8216;Jackass&#8221; or grabbing the girls breasts. </p>
<p>The boys spent five nights in juvenile jail, were strip searched four times and were not allowed to communicate with their parents for the first twenty-four hours.</p>
<p>All for doing the same thing the girls were doing. There&#8217;s a good chance the D.A. who concocted the charges will loose her job.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the infamous &#8220;power-washer mom&#8221; was free for eleven days, to let her daughters welts to heal, was then arrested, spent one night in jail, and probably wasn&#8217;t strip searched once.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad Petulant Pixie isn&#8217;t as concerned about the fact that American women kill more of their own children than any mothers in the industrialized world.</p>
<p>I guess she&#8217;d rather ruminate about a couple adolescent boys slapping girls on the butt.</p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2007/08/20/butt-slappin-justice/#comment-137654</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original news stories pointed out that yes, indeed, girls were seen slapping the boys' butts, but nothing about the girls touching the boys' breasts.

However, given that the assistant prosecutor who brought these charges to court was a female, I think a very fair question to ask is:  Would she truly have brought similar charges against a girl or girls for doing exactly the same thing? (Oh, I know, I'm being hypothetical here, but I believe the "divide" is very real)  NO, I really don't believe any girl would have been charged in such an incident.  It's mostly because it wasn't the girls involved who called the police, made the original complaint, but rather the school's principal.  Now, that brings up a good question:  What exactly was that administrator doing, allowing such an activity involving BOTH boys and girls to go on in his school in the first place?  Can we say "brain fade", or perhaps more honestly, "incompetence"?  I think both fit.

Truthfully, it's stuff like this that makes me wonder if the good, old-fashioned hard maple paddle doesn't really have a place, hanging from a hook in the principal's office.  It seems to me that the "Board of education, applied to the seat of learning" would have been FAR more appropriate than to turn those two boys over to an obviously overzealous, perhaps feminist, prosecuting attorney eager to make a name for herself, for her career advancement (I suspect however, that the results for her aren't at all what she would have preferred).  I mean, come on!  Did what those boys stood accused of REALLY constitute felonies.

What are we coming to in this country? A return to the scenes of Dickensonian England, where Charles Dickens once observed a 10-year old boy being hanged for the horrific crime of stealing a loaf of bread?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original news stories pointed out that yes, indeed, girls were seen slapping the boys&#8217; butts, but nothing about the girls touching the boys&#8217; breasts.</p>
<p>However, given that the assistant prosecutor who brought these charges to court was a female, I think a very fair question to ask is:  Would she truly have brought similar charges against a girl or girls for doing exactly the same thing? (Oh, I know, I&#8217;m being hypothetical here, but I believe the &#8220;divide&#8221; is very real)  NO, I really don&#8217;t believe any girl would have been charged in such an incident.  It&#8217;s mostly because it wasn&#8217;t the girls involved who called the police, made the original complaint, but rather the school&#8217;s principal.  Now, that brings up a good question:  What exactly was that administrator doing, allowing such an activity involving BOTH boys and girls to go on in his school in the first place?  Can we say &#8220;brain fade&#8221;, or perhaps more honestly, &#8220;incompetence&#8221;?  I think both fit.</p>
<p>Truthfully, it&#8217;s stuff like this that makes me wonder if the good, old-fashioned hard maple paddle doesn&#8217;t really have a place, hanging from a hook in the principal&#8217;s office.  It seems to me that the &#8220;Board of education, applied to the seat of learning&#8221; would have been FAR more appropriate than to turn those two boys over to an obviously overzealous, perhaps feminist, prosecuting attorney eager to make a name for herself, for her career advancement (I suspect however, that the results for her aren&#8217;t at all what she would have preferred).  I mean, come on!  Did what those boys stood accused of REALLY constitute felonies.</p>
<p>What are we coming to in this country? A return to the scenes of Dickensonian England, where Charles Dickens once observed a 10-year old boy being hanged for the horrific crime of stealing a loaf of bread?</p>
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		<title>By: Petulant Pixie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petulant Pixie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was nothing in that article about the girls doing the same thing.  If they were, then that makes it a different story.  I can only comment on what I read in the article that was linked though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was nothing in that article about the girls doing the same thing.  If they were, then that makes it a different story.  I can only comment on what I read in the article that was linked though.</p>
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		<title>By: rotney11</title>
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		<dc:creator>rotney11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people seem to have overlooked that the girls were doing the same thing, which i cant understand why the cops didnt take them to jail,,how many times could the cops have strip searched the yummy little girls in 5 days,,of course some of them would rather strip search little boys,,,this whole thing was so ridiculous</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people seem to have overlooked that the girls were doing the same thing, which i cant understand why the cops didnt take them to jail,,how many times could the cops have strip searched the yummy little girls in 5 days,,of course some of them would rather strip search little boys,,,this whole thing was so ridiculous</p>
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		<title>By: Petulant Pixie</title>
		<link>http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2007/08/20/butt-slappin-justice/#comment-105186</link>
		<dc:creator>Petulant Pixie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree that this isn't a felony.  I wouldn't go so far as to say tht sexual assault to 13 year-old girls isn't a crime.  Do you have daughters?  How would you feel if one of them came home and told you that two boys slapped her butt and felt up her chest and humped her in the hallway at school?  You'd just laugh and roll your eyes and say, well, boys will be boys?  I bet there'd be a bit of outrage on your part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that this isn&#8217;t a felony.  I wouldn&#8217;t go so far as to say tht sexual assault to 13 year-old girls isn&#8217;t a crime.  Do you have daughters?  How would you feel if one of them came home and told you that two boys slapped her butt and felt up her chest and humped her in the hallway at school?  You&#8217;d just laugh and roll your eyes and say, well, boys will be boys?  I bet there&#8217;d be a bit of outrage on your part.</p>
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		<title>By: creative-type dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>creative-type dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the D.A. can go after REAL criminals now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the D.A. can go after REAL criminals now</p>
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		<title>By: Petulant Pixie</title>
		<link>http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2007/08/20/butt-slappin-justice/#comment-105046</link>
		<dc:creator>Petulant Pixie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and maybe the parents ought to have some forced education on what appropriate viewing is for 13 y.o.s.  Jackass??  With no further explanation as to how you cannot just do those things?  They dry humped little girls in the hallways!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and maybe the parents ought to have some forced education on what appropriate viewing is for 13 y.o.s.  Jackass??  With no further explanation as to how you cannot just do those things?  They dry humped little girls in the hallways!</p>
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		<title>By: Petulant Pixie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petulant Pixie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm glad that the charges were hugely reduced, but I do think that there is some merit in scaring the shit out of little boys for that.  Can you imagine being the mother of a 13 year old girl when she comes home and tells you that a couple of boys were grabbing her butt and feeling her breasts?  While the boys are kids, so are the girls!  That is horrible!  No, not felony horrible, but it's still horrible enough that the boys should be made a public example of and scare them with words like "felony" and "sex offender".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad that the charges were hugely reduced, but I do think that there is some merit in scaring the shit out of little boys for that.  Can you imagine being the mother of a 13 year old girl when she comes home and tells you that a couple of boys were grabbing her butt and feeling her breasts?  While the boys are kids, so are the girls!  That is horrible!  No, not felony horrible, but it&#8217;s still horrible enough that the boys should be made a public example of and scare them with words like &#8220;felony&#8221; and &#8220;sex offender&#8221;.</p>
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