Comments on: Because NCLB isn’t intrusive enough http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2006/09/22/183/ Parenting, Politics and News for the Perfectly Challenged Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:02:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: kim http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2006/09/22/183/#comment-10409 kim Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:42:31 +0000 http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2006/09/22/183/#comment-10409 Strong leadership and dedicated teachers trumps parent involvement. I know this because I've seen it. The majority of the students at the school my children attend do not have parents who are "actively involved" in the currently popular and sometimes government mandated manner, or truthfully who are involved at all. The incredible staff at the school has cultivated a culture of community, pride, and excellence. They've done this in spite of lack of parent involvement and most definitely in spite of NCLB. Strong leadership and dedicated teachers trumps parent involvement. I know this because I’ve seen it. The majority of the students at the school my children attend do not have parents who are “actively involved” in the currently popular and sometimes government mandated manner, or truthfully who are involved at all. The incredible staff at the school has cultivated a culture of community, pride, and excellence. They’ve done this in spite of lack of parent involvement and most definitely in spite of NCLB.

]]> By: Jessica http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2006/09/22/183/#comment-3312 Jessica Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:08:52 +0000 http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2006/09/22/183/#comment-3312 Actually, I would argue that education isn't a "right". It's a service and a privilege. If the "group" is going to make parents parent only a certain way in which to allow our children that privilege, who's to say that "the group" won't insist that only breastfed children be allowed to go to public school. It's not a crazy suggestion. Many would liken those who formula fed to selfish, uninvolved and uncaring mothers. The state or group has no right to determine how parents wish to parent and as for the "opt out", that should apply to those who wish parent's rights to be taken away, in effort to provide student uniformity and personal moral convictions. How many homeschooling moms choose to do so because they wish their children to have a Christian schooling experience? Just my opinion anyway... Actually, I would argue that education isn’t a “right”. It’s a service and a privilege. If the “group” is going to make parents parent only a certain way in which to allow our children that privilege, who’s to say that “the group” won’t insist that only breastfed children be allowed to go to public school. It’s not a crazy suggestion. Many would liken those who formula fed to selfish, uninvolved and uncaring mothers.

The state or group has no right to determine how parents wish to parent and as for the “opt out”, that should apply to those who wish parent’s rights to be taken away, in effort to provide student uniformity and personal moral convictions. How many homeschooling moms choose to do so because they wish their children to have a Christian schooling experience?

Just my opinion anyway…

]]> By: CrankMama http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2006/09/22/183/#comment-3311 CrankMama Mon, 25 Sep 2006 00:30:16 +0000 http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2006/09/22/183/#comment-3311 Ostensibly, the rights potentially violated are those entitling each child to a quality public education. This is assuming that the rules laid out by the EIA to encourage "active involvement" is a way of legislating against the negative impacts lack of involvement have on the group. This goes beyond "being offended" about things said under the auspices of free speech and to the crux of the issue of personal freedoms. Public education as an institution is by necessity an infringement on basic rights, as is any participation in any sort of group. One essentially has an unspoken "contract" to abide by the rules of the group. If the group changes those rules, one can obviously opt out (as are many parents who put their kids in private schools or who champion the charter schools movement). I believe a quality public education is a right worth defending... Ostensibly, the rights potentially violated are those entitling each child to a quality public education. This is assuming that the rules laid out by the EIA to encourage “active involvement” is a way of legislating against the negative impacts lack of involvement have on the group. This goes beyond “being offended” about things said under the auspices of free speech and to the crux of the issue of personal freedoms. Public education as an institution is by necessity an infringement on basic rights, as is any participation in any sort of group. One essentially has an unspoken “contract” to abide by the rules of the group. If the group changes those rules, one can obviously opt out (as are many parents who put their kids in private schools or who champion the charter schools movement).

I believe a quality public education is a right worth defending…

]]> By: Prescott http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2006/09/22/183/#comment-3264 Prescott Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:54:02 +0000 http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2006/09/22/183/#comment-3264 What rights of the persons in the group are being violated? The right to not be bothered? Should the government require parents to medicate ADD kids so that they don't "impact" those around them? Do you not see that setting this sort of precedent opens the door for the "group" one day deciding they don't like how *you* parent, and will try and force you to change? Should my freedom of speech be taken away because a group is offended by what I am saying? It's easy to grant liberties to people that are doing the "right" thing; acknowledging the rights of people that are doing something we may not like or approve of is what makes this country truly free. What rights of the persons in the group are being violated? The right to not be bothered? Should the government require parents to medicate ADD kids so that they don’t “impact” those around them? Do you not see that setting this sort of precedent opens the door for the “group” one day deciding they don’t like how *you* parent, and will try and force you to change?

Should my freedom of speech be taken away because a group is offended by what I am saying? It’s easy to grant liberties to people that are doing the “right” thing; acknowledging the rights of people that are doing something we may not like or approve of is what makes this country truly free.

]]> By: CrankMama http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2006/09/22/183/#comment-3255 CrankMama Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:50:31 +0000 http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2006/09/22/183/#comment-3255 Except that anytime you're trying to educate kids in a group (in public school) the quality of their homelife (or lack thereof) DOES impact those around them. Where do personal rights give way to the rights of the group? Except that anytime you’re trying to educate kids in a group (in public school) the quality of their homelife (or lack thereof) DOES impact those around them. Where do personal rights give way to the rights of the group?

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