Pit bulls and children do not mix
Posted
May 31, 2006 at
9:33 am by
Jessica
People own pit bulls to use as a weapon and if you are part of the few that doesn’t own a pit bull for a weapon, then know you’re amongst the majority of trash that does. Nobody thinks, “Gee, a pit bull would be a GREAT family dog.” A pug is a great family dog, a pit bull is not. In fact, why not just go out and get your family a bear or a tiger? And if you’re fortunate enough to live in an area where one of your neighbors owns one of these weapons of mass destruction, then do yourself a favor and move (your property value isn’t going to soar with pit bulls running around anyway) or get your village to sign an ordinance banning these animals. Children deserve better. People deserve better.
From the website dogbitelaw.com, here are some stats on dogs that kill:
As stated above, there are two problems that have been reported as though there is only a single problem, namely there are canine homicides (i.e., dog bite related human fatalities) and the dog bite epidemic. The dogs responsible for the bulk of the homicides are pit bulls and Rottweilers:
“Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996….[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities.” (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)
Other breeds were also responsible for homicides, but to a much lesser extent. A 1997 study of dog bite fatalities in the years 1979 through 1996 revealed that the following breeds had killed one or more persons: pit bulls, Rottweilers, German shepherds, huskies, Alaskan malamutes, Doberman pinschers, chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards and Akitas. (Dog Bite Related Fatalities,” Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, May 30, 1997, Vol. 46, No. 21, pp. 463 et. seq.)
Owners of such dogs should be aware that if their dogs attack a person, the attacks may be scrutinized by law enforcement. The reason is that irresponsible behavior with or toward a dog whose breed is known to bite has caused a rising and unacceptable injury and death toll, which authorities are determined to stem.
“Irresponsible behavior” is defined differently from place to place. In California, for example, it can be a felony for a person to possess a dog trained to fight, attack or kill that, because of the owner’s lack of ordinary care, bites two people or seriously injures one person. (See Felony prosecution of attack dog owners.)
In different parts of the United States at the current time, there are a number of parents who are on trial for manslaughter because their dogs have killed their children. In these cases, the prosecutors have taken the position that the parents behaved irresponsibly because they left their children in the company of dogs most likely to bite.
There is an 8 out of 10 chance that a biting dog is male. (Humane Society of the United States.)
And here is the tragic story, brought to us by WTHR-Indianapolis, that tells a true account of just one out of thousands of tragedies that involve a child mamed or killed by a vicious dog each year. As a society, we fight for safer streets, safer schools, safer immunizations, safer foods, environment, homes, cars and so on, we need to keep ban dogs that are most likely to kill a child. People cannot be trusted to keep your children safe from their dogs. If you think the kind of person that chains up a pit bull or a rottweiler in their yard is of a level of sophistication that they keep innocent people in mind, then your are sorely mistaken.
Indianapolis - A toddler’s life is on the line after a pit bull attack. The victim’s family wants the owner held accountable.
It happened Friday afternoon in the 13-hundred block of South Belmont near Lambert Street on the city’s southwest side.
Police say the animal took control of the toddler and wouldn’t let go. His young victim’s blood was still on it’s snout while teams at Riley Hospital worked to save 2-year-old Amaia Hess.“She sustained serious injury to her face and it appears she may have been bitten on other parts of her body too. One of her eyes is missing at this point. The other eye is seriously injured,” said Sgt. Mathew Mount of the Indianapolis Police Department.
The little girl was in the stroller with her mother. A man opened his door and the dog, named Ozzie, ran out straight for the little girl.
“I seen the baby in the dogs mouth and the dog shaking the baby like a rag doll, just shaking, shaking, shaking,” said a witness.
Amay’s great uncle calls her a sweet loving child facing a long struggle.
“One eye was completely tore out but the pupils were good so they can do some reconstruction on that,” said the uncle. “The doctors said that there’s many many surgeries there to do.”
It’s the second pit bull biting at the house in a year.
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121. Krystle said:
July 7, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
122. Krystle said:
July 7, 2007 @ 8:43 pm
http://www.atts.org/statistics.html
don’t belive me about the temperment tests? see for yourself
123. Krystle said:
July 7, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
i’ve just got sooo much to say
I think the bottom line here is potential for damage. It’s not about pit bulls (any dog can bite), it’s not about how people raise their dogs (even the best behaved and most socialized dog can go nuts and attack), bottom line it’s about damage control. If you own a chihuahua and it loses it’s mind one day and attacks the kid next door it would be a terrible thing but after a few stitches the child will recover. Maybe the child will have a scar, maybe the child will be afraid of dogs, but the child will be able to go to school the next day. On the other hand, if you own a pit bull and it loses it’s mind one day and attacks the kid next door, then that child’s parents will be planning a funeral and you will be spending some time in jail. It’s a considerably worse ending for everyone. Why take the risk?
dogs don’t just go crazy and lose their mind. There are sevral warning signs before an attack, have you ever heard people say “oh well they only growl when they are eating” they end up ignoring it then when the dog “loses its mind” you hear the owners say something like “we don’t get it, he was a great dog”
124. Krystle said:
July 7, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
I agree with you, Jessica. I just came across this post while looking at the blog. I think the entire breed of pit bulls should be banned.
I am one of those people who gives Pit owners dirty looks ont he street. I will admit it to anyone and everyone every time I am asked.
I have had two pitts come into my yard and both are very lucky that I am against owning guns (for the same reason I am against pitt’s–they kill) because I would have killed each of them without a second thought. One of them, came up while I had my, then 6mos old, in an activity center. My husband was out back grilling and the dog got in between my daughter and I. I started yelling at him and he continued towards my daughter and I continued towards him. Only when my yells became shreiks did he start back down my driveway. I ran after him, letting him know what would happen next time he came in my yard.
Breed specific legislation. get RID of these child killers!!!!!
this is sooo funny!! and for the record people kill people, and the dog didn’t even do anything, it just walked away but you still call it a child killer, the dog was probably thinking “look at this crazy women, and she thinks i’m nuts” hahaha
125. To KRYSTAL said:
July 8, 2007 @ 1:24 pm
Do you have a split personality?!? In one post you’re saying you own a pitt, in the next you’re saying one came on your property while your 6 mo old was there and you chased it away screaming and yelling at it and THEN imply if you had the balls and gun to do it, you would have killed the dog. In one post you’re saying BSL should be outlawed, and yet in another post you’re saying you agree with BSL. Make up your mind!!!
126. Krystle said:
July 8, 2007 @ 8:15 pm
cut, copy, and paste…..someone else said that, and I was commenting at the end
127. Krystle said:
July 8, 2007 @ 8:18 pm
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
to everyone who thinks they can identify one of these so called “monsters” check this out, and guess waht, I bet if any one of these dogs attack, the pit bull would still be blammed.
128. Krystle said:
July 8, 2007 @ 8:23 pm
but this one is actually better
http://members.aol.com/radogz/find.html
129. Allison said:
July 8, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
If you’re trying to imply that next-to-none of the dogs who are mentioned in the “Pit Bull Attacks Child” articles are really pits at all, then why would the OWNERS of the dogs CONFIRM the breed as “PIT BULLS” and willingly have them put to sleep????? If my dog attacked a kid and the parents tried to label it as a pit bull and it wasn’t, you’d better believe I’d be finding all of the paperwork possible to prove it wasn’t a pit bull…….
130. Krystle said:
July 8, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
yes I would do anything to prove that as well, but the media doesn’t care, they love to hear storys about pit bulls, there was one on the news recently, and come to find out it was a boxer, and not a pit bull, but the pit bull was blammed, and it was never clarfied, I read about it online, but I do remember the story on the news. They even showed the dog labled “pit bull” sorry it was a boxer
a lot of the time the attacker is not caught, and most people during an attack do not get a clear look at their attackers, but when later asked they just assume it is a pit bull.
131. Kym said:
July 10, 2007 @ 1:21 am
For those who say only big dogs have the ability to kill humans, maybe you should take a look at this article. ALL dogs are capable of killing. plain and simple.
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/10/09/pomeranian.kills.ap/
132. Krystle said:
July 12, 2007 @ 8:16 pm
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/FatalDog/FatalDog.pdf
I want EVERYONE to look at this page, especially you Jessica
133. To KRYSTAL said:
July 13, 2007 @ 10:45 am
Wow. Pretty pictures. I’m glad I saw that link…of COMMON SENSE! That’s stuff ANYONE, dog owner or not, should know! Were any of those statistics surprising to you?!?! Do you HONESTLY think that Jessica believes that ONLY pitbulls kill people? Are you that dense?
ALL dogs have the potential to attack and/or kill a human! No dog should ever TRULY be trusted!
134. Krystle said:
July 13, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
blah blah blah..lol
135. Krystle said:
July 13, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
and if she really knows this, than why is she targeting a specific breed? dumb@$$
136. To KRYSTAL said:
July 14, 2007 @ 12:39 am
DUH! She had to title the Blog SOMETHING, didn’t she?!?!
If you read the article, it does NOT only mention pitbulls. If you read her comments AFTER the first article but BEFORE the second article she posted, you would see she didn’t only mention pitts.
It seems you’re quick to post and point the finger at others without even taking the time to read all the other posts that came BEFORE yours. Gee, I know 100 posts are a lot to read, but for someone SO opinionated, you’d think you would at least read what other’s have posted and then decide if you’re just repeating them, or if you actually have something NEW to say. So far, I think you’re just repeating other people.
137. Pete G said:
July 14, 2007 @ 12:50 am
These blogs always bring out the good, bad and the ugly.
The good.
Dogs of all breeds are good, bad and ugly.
Pitt Bulls are way down on the list as far as natural agressivnes.
They are excellent baby sitters. Yep they will not only take care of the child they will protect it if you mess withe them.
I have a Pitt that was rescued from a breeder who breads them for figting. He is in jail now.
She has 10 cats.
She has two favorites, one which sleeps with her.
I wouldn’t want to see you mess with the cat other than to pet it. grinnnnn
Pete
138. To Pete G said:
July 16, 2007 @ 11:34 am
Hey Pete G, how much does your excellent babysitter charge? Or do you get him real cheap (just a dog cookie)? Because I’ve been wanting to dump my babysitter for a while now. She charges way too much! Maybe I should switch to a dog, like you do. Does your babysitter use his big tongue during diaper changes?
Ass Hat!
Trust me, you’ll be posting your account of a horrific nightmare when that thing rips your kid’s face off, while your back was turned……….
139. Mike said:
July 16, 2007 @ 5:48 pm
Hey Ass Hat
Pete was right about a couple of things. One is Pit bulls are ranked very low on the human aggression scale compared to other breeds. The second being these posts bring out
the good the bad and the ugly. I haven’t decided
if your just a bad person or an ugly human being as well. Answer me this Ass Hat, why do nimrods
like you always tell a person who have children and a pit bull that the dog’s bound to kill the kid or ” rip it’s face off ” who the hell are
you people ? Why would somebody say anything
like that to a parent ? Ever lost a child Ass Hat ? Know anybody who has ? Why don’t you engage your brain before you blog. If anyone
is guilty of using their tongue where crap is
concerned it’s you. You’ve got a mouth full of it.
140. Kym said:
July 17, 2007 @ 5:49 am
Since Jessica feels the need to post news stories about Pit Bulls that attack, here’s another story about those vicious baby killers. I have more of these stories to if you would all like to see them. For the record I do own two pit bulls I also own a Black Lab and a Boxer/Australian Kelpie mix. I am involved with pit bull rescue. I never owned a pit bull before I got into rescueing them not because I was afraid of them I just never come across one who needed a home. The reason I got into pit bull rescue is because out in public my Boxer mix was being mistaken for a pit bull. And once I found out about BSL I realized if it came to my area my non-pit bull dog could and most likely would be unfairly labeled a pit bull and taken from me. After that I did a lot of research on Pit Bulls and once I was confident in all the research I did I decided to rescue them. To those of you who think BSL only targets Pit Bulls and Rottweilers you are sadly mistaken. There are at least 75 breeds of dogs banned or restricted across the US including Labradors, Golden Retrievers, St. Bernards, Great Danes, Boxers and the list goes on. Some cities have banned any dog over 100 lbs regardless of breed. So maybe instead of hating Pit Bull owners and anti-BSL advocates because you think their only in it for the pit bulls, you should be thanking them because they are on the front lines fighting for you to keep your dogs no matter what breed you own. Banning Pit Bulls will not stop people from being killed by dogs. All dogs no matter what size have the potential to kill. Yes even your Chihuahuas and Pugs. Stronger laws that apply to all dogs and their owners are the only educated solution and that won’t even be 100%. Why because their are just too many irresponsible dog owners out there for dog attacks to become obsolete. If you want to help your children from becoming a statistic, research and teach your children dog behavior and body language. Teach them how to responsible interact with a dog no matter if its your own dog, a friends dog or a dog running loose on the streets. And then after that research the pet over population problem in this country, or puppymills, dog fighters… those are real problems that really should be taking up your time and energy. Not hating Pit Bulls who most of you haters probably never came across a real pit bull in your life. You just mindlessly believe everything the media spits out. Truely educate yourselves with good solid information. The AKC, the American Veterinary Association etc. Non-Biased sites that are experts in dogs.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime_file/2007/07/08/2007-07-08_hero_pooch_saves_7yearold_queens_girl.html
Hero pooch saves 7-year-old Queens girl
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BY WARREN WOODBERRY JR. and ROBERT F. MOORE
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Sunday, July 8th 2007, 4:00 AM
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Print Email Suggest a Story
Heather Fretes with her dog, Bleu, whose barking alerted her to a pervert next-door trying to sexually assault a 7-year-old girl. Together, the owner and her dog drove off the attacker.
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A barking dog and an alert woman scared off a pervert in Queens after he lured a girl into a backyard by promising to show her worms, police and witnesses said yesterday.
“Mommy! Daddy!” the 7-year-old girl screamed as she fought off her attacker between two garages about 7:45 p.m. Friday. “Help me!”
Her cries for help startled a dog on the other side of a fence. Bleu, a mixed pit bull, began barking incessantly, which brought his owner, Heather Fretes, to the window.
“He was going wild barking,” Fretes said. “I looked out and I saw two people. The girl was screaming.”
Fretes ran outside and yelled at the man, who witnesses said had been watching the girl and her friend before the attack. The suspect tore down part of a fence to escape the backyard on 171st St. in Flushing. The girl wept as she told Fretes about the attack.
“He took my hand and led me back where he tried to pull down my pants,” the girl said, according to Fretes.
“Everything is fine,” the victim’s uncle said late yesterday. “She’s okay. As long as she’s okay, we’re fine. She wasn’t hurt.”
Paramedics took the girl to a nearby hospital, where she was examined and released. She was shaken up, but not injured. No weapon was used, police said.
A police source said detectives interviewed the girl again yesterday in hopes of putting together a sketch of the suspect.
Cops described him as a white man, in his late teens or early 20s, with sandy brown, spiked hair. He was wearing blue jeans and a blue shirt.
“There’s no indication at this point that it’s part of a pattern,” the police source said. “Obviously, we’re checking that out, but it’s early in the investigation.”
Neighbors said the suspect was sitting on the steps of a nearby home, watching the victim and her 10-year-old friend as they rode their scooters. He then got up and approached the girls, telling them he had a bird and liked animals.
“My sister didn’t like what the guy was saying to her, so she went in the house,” the 10-year-old’s sister said yesterday.
rmoore@nydailynews.com
141. From Timmy said:
July 21, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
Dear Lassie,
Gee, girl. Looks like you were years before your time! A dog was just named a hero because it BARKED! Yup, if you read the article about titled “Hero Pooch Saves 7-yr Old Queens Girl”, the dog is being given the credit for saying the little girl from a pervert because it barked when it was startled. What a heroic thing to do!
I hate to say it girl, but he might be smarter than you! I mean, you only led people back to me that time I was in the well, but where were you when Father O’Brien was with me???
I think maybe you should find another home. I’ll be bringing home that pooch from Queens!
Timmy
142. Astounded!!! said:
July 29, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
I am shocked, horrified and very disappointed in all of you pitbull owners/lovers out there!
With the HUGE development in the most recent of Pitbull Fighting Ring stories, here is one in which Atlanta Falcons NFL star Michael Vick has been indicted for running a Pitbull Fighting Ring. Here is a link to a site that includes a link to the 18-page indicitment he is facing.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0717072vick1.html
Where is the outrage from the pitbull owning community??? We saw lots of hatred towards Jessica but not one single peep from any of you against Vick. Why is that??? You would think there would be a lot of “Well, that’s not what the majority of pitbull owners do with their dogs and certainly not me” posts, however, all of you are eerily quiet!
It leads me to feel as if the subject is completely off limits because you’re all afraid you’ll slip and show your support for Vick. Why else all the silence?!?!?
143. Kym said:
July 29, 2007 @ 4:40 pm
The subject of this blog is Pit Bulls and Children not Dogfighting. In effort to stay on topic I have not posted my comments about the Michael Vick indictment. If you think just because we own and or love Pit Bulls means we also love and support Dog Fighting it truely shows how completely ignorant you really are.
144. Kym said:
July 29, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
This site has Pictures of Kids and Pit Bulls
http://www.maxtheshelterdog.com/kidsforpits.html
This site shows heroic Pit Bulls
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/pospress.html
145. To Kym said:
July 29, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
Are you kidding me??? Talk about splitting hairs! “The subject of this blog is Pit Bulls and Children not Dogfighting”…you don’t see the connection between the two???
It is the entire BASIS for why BSL, in reference to this breed, is a good thing. It would keep this breed, which is bred for the best genetic makeup to be the best (strongest, toughest, BMI ratio’s, etc) in this sport, from the general public. These genetic markers that are in those fighting dogs are the SAME that are in your pitbull sitting by your side.
Otherwise, as Vick has proven, the breeders will kill those dogs that don’t show those characteristics. The docile/non-aggressive were bred out, the aggressive genes were encouraged through propagation. The breeders sell to the drug lords, who in turn breed and sell them to their inner circles and so on and so forth until these dogs end up in the pound where surburbia adopts them and claims they’re “the best dogs ever” and “oh so sweet” that they would “never hurt a fly”.
Are you kidding me?!?! This is just proof why PITBULLS AND CHILDREN DO NOT MIX!
146. animal lover said:
July 30, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
To the last comment; you should push for punishing those type of people not the dog. The dog is doing what is instilled in him by the owner who is breeding for the aggressive trait. If BSL was in affect, or if the breed was banned, those same bad people WILL find another dog and find another way to continue with this blood thirsty money hungry torment they call a “sport”. Support punishing the people who encourage, knowingly or not, bad behavior in dogs and get rid of the people who fight dogs for a living. You can’t ban a dog or put a dog down because of what it is born as and you cant’t punish a dog because of its potential. If that’s the case, many PEOPLE, if not, everyone would be in jail or on death row.
147. michael said:
July 31, 2007 @ 1:49 pm
Dog agression and human agression are two very different things. Anyone that states because pits get bred to be fighters that they are much more dangerous to humans have probably never been to a dogfight. Now I don’t support or agree with dogfighting in any way but the simple fact is people are in the pit with the dogs and
each dog is inspected and sometimes even washed down by the other owner. The judge has to be in there as well so dogs that bite people are not tolerated at all. People will not get into the pit with a dog that bites so no money can be made with that dog so he’s usually put down.
And your telling me hundreds of years of this kind of breeding produces a more human agressive animal ? Baloney . If Pits were such efficient man killers why wouldnt the army use them or the police ? They just were never designed to go after people. Can they….you betcha and this is
core of the thing, anyone can encourage that kind of agression in a dog theres no trick to it.
Leave anydog in a backyard alone, maybe tease it a little. Put it on a short leash too and no human contact that’s essential and youve got trouble. Do you really think the morons who use
pit bulls for anything other than conpanionship will stop as soon as pits go away ? Your dreaming.The next big dog will be the favorite and the ban on dogs will just march from one breed to another. Bad owners and guys like Michael Vick should be the ones held accountable for crimes done to and with this breed.
148. To Michael said:
August 1, 2007 @ 1:12 pm
Yes, ANY dog can, and will, attack under the right circumstances. However, not ALL dogs have been bred specifically to do damage, as pitts have.
What is being said is, pound for pound, pitts, because of the reasons they were bred, pack a much bigger punch than any other breed. So that means, when pitts DO attack, the damage they do is generally far greater than the same attack from any other breed. Since children are smaller in mass than a pitt, the pitt can easily severly wound a child.
149. michael said:
August 1, 2007 @ 6:55 pm
I guess that’s the whole point to my argument yes pits were trained to do damage but to other dogs not humans. Now if you take a dog fighting pit and encourage it to human agression who’s to blame the dog or the owner? The dog should get put down and the owner thrown in jail. Making people responsible for the actions of the dog they own is the only way to stop things like this, banning pit bulls will not stop dog attacks. I owned a pit from some of the oldest fighting lines in this country and
comparing him to the other three dogs ive had
( poodle, Doberman & lab ) he was by far the best. Stable attitude, wonderful with adults and children and very gentle. I thought he was the exception in a bad breed after all the things ive read about Pits but the more pit bulls I came across the more I learned how special that the breed is. The exception is the human agressive pit, they were just never bred for it. Pits are the victim of overpopulation and rotten owners. These are the same people that owned Rotties Dobermans and Shepherds years ago, well now it’s the pits turn. The only difference is that out of the four breeds Pit bulls have never been used or trained for work against humans.
Police forces and Military units around the world don’t use them and why not ? If pound for pound they can do more damage than any other breed then why don’t we see them in every cop car? They just are not the right breed for the job, like I said the exception not the rule.
If your a dog person and you own a pit you
will probably never want any other kind of dog,
I know I don’t. But don’t get me wrong they are just dogs and as such even the best of them need supervision with children. If a dog attacks a child and has enough time to actually take it’s life, where the hell is the parent and what transpired before the attack ? These are questions that never get answered in news articles ? Who in their right mind would let an agressive dog be in the same house with children in the first place. No dog of any breed is 100% safe around children,just because Pits have a fighting past it doesn’t mean they are more pre disposed to violence against humans…to dogs yes they are but not to people.
150. To Michael said:
August 2, 2007 @ 9:44 am
Yes, I hear what you’re saying, but I think you’re forgetting a few things.
Too often, people treat their pets like a member of the family. Because dogs are “pack” animals, they (any dog) always feels the need to secure their position in the pack/family. Very rearely do you hear of a pitt attacking an adult. More often, we hear stories of them attacking children. Why is this? Because the dog (again, any breed) will follow the alpha male/female of the household. They do NOT recognize the children of the house to he the ones in control. Therefore, they WILL snap at children when they’re being annoying to them. Again, this is with ANY dog. BUT, because pitts pack a punch, too often, the damage is done before anyone realizes what is going on. You say “Where are the parents when these things happen”…well, they trust the dog because “it’s the best I’ve ever had!” and they live in a bubble of a false sense of security!
Now, I’d like to ask a personal question WITHOUT attacking you, and in return, I would just like a simple answer please.
You said, “I owned a pit from some of the oldest fighting lines in this country…”
Why??? (Again, I’m not being a jerk…just simply curious!) Did you specifically seek out that line? Or did you happen to adopt it from the pound? And if you did seek out the dog for his breeding lines, isn’t that just encouraging the dog fighters to continue what they’re doing??? And if you got it form the pound, how did THEY know it’s lineage? Is it bragging rights, to say your dog comes from a long line of fighting pitts? Is that how you introduce or describe your dog? If you’re NOT into dog fighting, why would it matter?