Pit bulls and children do not mix
Posted
May 31, 2006 at
9:33 am by
Jessica
People own pit bulls to use as a weapon and if you are part of the few that doesn’t own a pit bull for a weapon, then know you’re amongst the majority of trash that does. Nobody thinks, “Gee, a pit bull would be a GREAT family dog.” A pug is a great family dog, a pit bull is not. In fact, why not just go out and get your family a bear or a tiger? And if you’re fortunate enough to live in an area where one of your neighbors owns one of these weapons of mass destruction, then do yourself a favor and move (your property value isn’t going to soar with pit bulls running around anyway) or get your village to sign an ordinance banning these animals. Children deserve better. People deserve better.
From the website dogbitelaw.com, here are some stats on dogs that kill:
As stated above, there are two problems that have been reported as though there is only a single problem, namely there are canine homicides (i.e., dog bite related human fatalities) and the dog bite epidemic. The dogs responsible for the bulk of the homicides are pit bulls and Rottweilers:
“Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996….[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities.” (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)
Other breeds were also responsible for homicides, but to a much lesser extent. A 1997 study of dog bite fatalities in the years 1979 through 1996 revealed that the following breeds had killed one or more persons: pit bulls, Rottweilers, German shepherds, huskies, Alaskan malamutes, Doberman pinschers, chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards and Akitas. (Dog Bite Related Fatalities,” Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, May 30, 1997, Vol. 46, No. 21, pp. 463 et. seq.)
Owners of such dogs should be aware that if their dogs attack a person, the attacks may be scrutinized by law enforcement. The reason is that irresponsible behavior with or toward a dog whose breed is known to bite has caused a rising and unacceptable injury and death toll, which authorities are determined to stem.
“Irresponsible behavior” is defined differently from place to place. In California, for example, it can be a felony for a person to possess a dog trained to fight, attack or kill that, because of the owner’s lack of ordinary care, bites two people or seriously injures one person. (See Felony prosecution of attack dog owners.)
In different parts of the United States at the current time, there are a number of parents who are on trial for manslaughter because their dogs have killed their children. In these cases, the prosecutors have taken the position that the parents behaved irresponsibly because they left their children in the company of dogs most likely to bite.
There is an 8 out of 10 chance that a biting dog is male. (Humane Society of the United States.)
And here is the tragic story, brought to us by WTHR-Indianapolis, that tells a true account of just one out of thousands of tragedies that involve a child mamed or killed by a vicious dog each year. As a society, we fight for safer streets, safer schools, safer immunizations, safer foods, environment, homes, cars and so on, we need to keep ban dogs that are most likely to kill a child. People cannot be trusted to keep your children safe from their dogs. If you think the kind of person that chains up a pit bull or a rottweiler in their yard is of a level of sophistication that they keep innocent people in mind, then your are sorely mistaken.
Indianapolis - A toddler’s life is on the line after a pit bull attack. The victim’s family wants the owner held accountable.
It happened Friday afternoon in the 13-hundred block of South Belmont near Lambert Street on the city’s southwest side.
Police say the animal took control of the toddler and wouldn’t let go. His young victim’s blood was still on it’s snout while teams at Riley Hospital worked to save 2-year-old Amaia Hess.“She sustained serious injury to her face and it appears she may have been bitten on other parts of her body too. One of her eyes is missing at this point. The other eye is seriously injured,” said Sgt. Mathew Mount of the Indianapolis Police Department.
The little girl was in the stroller with her mother. A man opened his door and the dog, named Ozzie, ran out straight for the little girl.
“I seen the baby in the dogs mouth and the dog shaking the baby like a rag doll, just shaking, shaking, shaking,” said a witness.
Amay’s great uncle calls her a sweet loving child facing a long struggle.
“One eye was completely tore out but the pupils were good so they can do some reconstruction on that,” said the uncle. “The doctors said that there’s many many surgeries there to do.”
It’s the second pit bull biting at the house in a year.
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271. britt rujder said:
April 18, 2008 @ 12:10 am
Jack -
Did I not already say I considered all dog fighters evil, cruel and scum? That that level of cruelty and abuse is beyond my comprehension. No - I’m not angelic but I’m not a lower life form like a dog fighter.
As far as my one and only pit bull…Did I not tell you I volunteered for close to a year at a rescue kennel in Downtown LA (most of the dogs were pits and rotties), I still work at Daisy’s doggie day care - where there are somewhere around eight pits (including the owner’s daughter’s and the main trainer’s), until very recently I was a member of an online anti-BSL group, I am good friends with many local pits (including an amazing pit bull bassett hound mix which is the sweetest dog in the world although he has some joint problems having been malnourished and neglected as a pup)…there’s more because Daisy also had a TPLO and that isn’t unusual for pits (or aussies or labs) so I’ve been somewhat active in helping the owners get funding - and, of course, request to work on the pit bull cases, do you want me to go on?
Mike -
I lumped you and Jack with her because I’ve been disagreeing with things you’ve said. Is that a surprise? Now, I’m thinking Jack is a dog fighter….do you think he is?
272. what said:
April 19, 2008 @ 11:22 pm
to lucy,
F*** YOU!!! I lived in Denver for many years and the only reason they were banned was because 3, 4, or 5 people got bit. If youd actually look at a statistic, youd see that 1000’s of people get bit in the whole nation every year. and to jessica,
how ignorent do you have to be to say that about any bread? my aunt has a dog that is part chuahua that would bite if you reached towrward it, and almost evey chuahua is like that, but do i hear anything about them being bad for kids to be around? no, and its the same thing with many toy breads. my grandpas neighbor has a pit bull that is one of the nicest dogs that ive ever met. heres a thought for you bumb ass, if your going to insult something, make sure you can look at it from both angles
273. Grandma frm Ks. said:
April 20, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
Thank You, for the information, and WE absolutely “AGREE” 100%, every one should kmow this article and read it thourly, there was a lot I did not know, and no I do not own one of those dogs , but I do know we are responsible for any and all of our dogs actions,Again Thanks
274. helen said:
April 20, 2008 @ 7:44 pm
Bitt
You are worse than Jack or even Mike! As you are inconsistent. You go around pro-longing the agony of “fghting dog” breeds that should not be around anyway. Get your priorities right. Do you want to reduce animal suffering or not? It sounds like you are a very confused young lady, that likes to promote pet keeping. I notice that you mention slave sellers in your posts. How are you any better to them? Keeping pets is the same bonding as keeping people. You go around telling people how good it is to keep a pet pit bull. IT sonds to me like you have SERIOUS issues and are very confused. Dog fighting people are less dangerous than you, as they are aware of the cruelty they are doing, whereas you just prolong the cruelty AND THINK YOU ARE DOING GOOD, JUST LIKE THE TALIBAN THINK THEY ARE DOING GOOD. You are now trying to stop bsl, really for what purpose? What is the purpose of breeding for unatural “fighting” breeds. You are a serious hypocrite Britt a real hypocite sister!
275. Sarah said:
April 20, 2008 @ 8:21 pm
Helen-
Whoa! You are worse than I thought. You are a true member of PETA. You as well don’t believe in the domestication of animals. Thanks for showing the other members of this blog how PETA truely feels about keeping pets. For all of you who thought PETA was a great organization, read some of Helen’s posts. She is expressing some of their core values.
Tell me helen, how is keeping a pet cruel? I will not be having children. Our Pit Bull and two cats are treated like part of our family. How can providing an animal with food, shelter, warmth, love, exercise, etc be cruel? My animals are stuck to me like glue. It must be because of the torture I impose on them.
You and I agree on one thing- dog fighting is cruel. But don’t place us loving pet owners on a lower level than dog fighters. Also, why do you refuse to answer any of my questions from previous posts or respond to the videos that I have posted?
276. britt rujder said:
April 20, 2008 @ 11:02 pm
Helen -
I don’t know what’s wrong with you. You obviously have all kinds of people issues (whatever) but, somehow, you also feel someone gave you the right to play God and choose what animals should be allowed to live and which ones should die. I didn’t believe some of the crazy things I had heard about PETA - but, with this email, I stand corrected.
Because thugs and gangbangers have chosen poor, sweet pit bulls as their victims, ignorant people think the dogs are thugs….and that is completely untrue. They are just dogs. Pure and simple. And no one who loves animals enslaves their companion animal - they make them part of their family. The enslavers are dog fighters.
Thank God for people like Sarah! Thank God for the people who love and treat pits well - who see all the joy they hold - just watch them do a full body shake at the wag of their tails. Thank God for all true animal lovers - not just the people that like little “feminine” dogs or the latest designer dogs to augment their look. People that truly love animals.
I leave you with the blog of my friend and pit bull owner extraordinaire - I met her sweet Honey when I worked at the rescue. travelswithhoney.blogspot.com . She doesn’t blog anymore, but, if you start at the beginning, maybe you will learn something about pits - probably not, though, Helen. You would have to have an open mind.
277. Helen said:
April 20, 2008 @ 11:56 pm
[quote comment="157076"]Helen -
I don’t know what’s wrong with you. You obviously have all kinds of people issues (whatever) but, somehow, you also feel someone gave you the right to play God and choose what animals should be allowed to live and which ones should die. I didn’t believe some of the crazy things I had heard about PETA - but, with this email, I stand corrected.
Because thugs and gangbangers have chosen poor, sweet pit bulls as their victims, ignorant people think the dogs are thugs….and that is completely untrue. They are just dogs. Pure and simple. And no one who loves animals enslaves their companion animal - they make them part of their family. The enslavers are dog fighters.
Thank God for people like Sarah! Thank God for the people who love and treat pits well - who see all the joy they hold - just watch them do a full body shake at the wag of their tails. Thank God for all true animal lovers - not just the people that like little “feminine” dogs or the latest designer dogs to augment their look. People that truly love animals.
I leave you with the blog of my friend and pit bull owner extraordinaire - I met her sweet Honey when I worked at the rescue. travelswithhoney.blogspot.com . She doesn’t blog anymore, but, if you start at the beginning, maybe you will learn something about pits - probably not, though, Helen. You would have to have an open mind.[/quote]
No it’s you who have serious issues with consistency. Dog fighters and pet owners are equally disgustng, so I LUMP YOU WITH MIKE ETC
You seem to think a wagging tail is a sign of happiness, well you’ve never seen videos of dogs bear baiting or dog fighting as they wag their tails too. Yes dog fighters (abusers) enslave their dogs, but maybe less so than pet owners. Both are disgusting and I lump you with the scum of Mike and Jack or whatever their names are.
Pit bulls are “fighting ” dogs and because you seem to think that one or two make good pets then they are all good pets. I think Britt you have a very low educational level and have serious issues. You seem to have a need for a powerful dog in order to give yourself a little self esteem. You are the same as those you condemn THE SAME.
278. Helen said:
April 21, 2008 @ 3:42 am
[quote comment="157063"]Helen-
Whoa! You are worse than I thought. You are a true member of PETA. You as well don’t believe in the domestication of animals. Thanks for showing the other members of this blog how PETA truely feels about keeping pets. For all of you who thought PETA was a great organization, read some of Helen’s posts. She is expressing some of their core values.
Tell me helen, how is keeping a pet cruel? I will not be having children. Our Pit Bull and two cats are treated like part of our family. How can providing an animal with food, shelter, warmth, love, exercise, etc be cruel? My animals are stuck to me like glue. It must be because of the torture I impose on them.
You and I agree on one thing- dog fighting is cruel. But don’t place us loving pet owners on a lower level than dog fighters. Also, why do you refuse to answer any of my questions from previous posts or respond to the videos that I have posted?[/quote]
oh Sarah; Britts great protector !
Your video about PETA I treat with the contempt it deserves. A few bad apples in PETA illegally killed some dogs. SO what; there are bad apples in all organizations, it seems sarah that you enjoy generalizing.
YES and read my lips KEEPING PETS IS THE SAME AS HUMAN SLAVERY YOU ARE THEREFORE A SLAVE MASTER, YOU THEREFORE ARE IN THe SAME LOW DOWN CATEGORY AS THOSE MEN THAT DOG FIGHT.
Also why don’t you start answering posts with FACTS and not just INSULTS.
Pit bulls are fighting dogs like the ones that killed Diane Whupple. You are probably a similar person to that female lawyer that owned those dogs.
Dispute the fact that fighting dogs are different to other dogs, dispute the DNA. You can’t can you ? Because you are a controller that like to control and dominate others but you can’t so you dominate animals instead!
why are pit bulls called PIT BULLS. Because they are monster dogs that need to be banned and eliminated ASAP.
279. Anna said:
April 21, 2008 @ 10:52 am
[/quote]
Your video about PETA I treat with the contempt it deserves. A few bad apples in PETA illegally killed some dogs. SO what; there are bad apples in all organizations, it seems sarah that you enjoy generalizing.
YES and read my lips KEEPING PETS IS THE SAME AS HUMAN SLAVERY YOU ARE THEREFORE A SLAVE MASTER, YOU THEREFORE ARE IN THe SAME LOW DOWN CATEGORY AS THOSE MEN THAT DOG FIGHT.
[/quote]
Helen…with all do respect.. but OMG! Are you $%^&* kidding me?!?!! I am flabbergasted with your warped mindset…
A few bad apples in PETA?? Coooome ooon…. theres more than a few, but what makes that generalization any different than what you are doing with Pit bulls?? IT”S NOT!! So what makes you any better? What makes it ok for you? YOu dont want ppl to generalize about you because of a few bad apples… well hunny… do unto others as you’d want done unto you!!!!
I do agree, however, that pet ownership is somewhat like that of slavery…BUT WAIT!!!!…. Hear me out here….. IT IS WE, THE HUMANS, THAT ARE THE SLAVES!!! NOT THE ANIMALS. I mean come on now… think about it… what did slaves do? They cooked, cleaned, did all the chores and took care of their masters. Correct?? Well we HUMANS in this “pet keeping” do all that for our animals, we feed them, bath them, play with them, walk them…. They don’t take care of us WE TAKE CARE OF THEM!!! So yeah, ok… I am a slave TO my dogs!!
I truely feel sorry for you Helen, you will never know the love and devotion of an animal… You do not know what you are missing, and your life must be pretty damn empty.. For that I am sorry.
Animals do far more good as PETS then wild, look at all these wonderful dogs, cats, and yes even horses, that go into these hospitals and bring joy to those sick kids and the elderly?? What about those horses that help disabled kids?? Do you really think they would all be better off without that?? Well hunny… there is SCIENTIFIC PROOF that ppl live longer, happier lives when they know the joy of animals. Not to mention those horses help kids WALK again, bulid self esteem, all those animals helping, give ppl a reason to live!! And what of those police dogs and search and rescue??? I think you seriously need to sit down and really think about what it would mean to not allow “petkeeping”
280. britt rujder said:
April 21, 2008 @ 11:18 am
Okay, Helen, after your dancing around it, this seems to be your main point:
“Dog fighters and pet owners are equally disgustng.”
You seem to think pet ownership equals pet enslavement….how are dogs supposed to live then or are dogs supposed to go back to the wild?
281. Allison J said:
April 21, 2008 @ 12:34 pm
[quote comment="157097"][quote comment="157063"]
YES and read my lips KEEPING PETS IS THE SAME AS HUMAN SLAVERY YOU ARE THEREFORE A SLAVE MASTER, YOU THEREFORE ARE IN THe SAME LOW DOWN CATEGORY AS THOSE MEN THAT DOG FIGHT.
[/quote]
I take GREAT offense to this comment. My dog (a boxer) is the light of mine and my husband’s life. He has severe food and skin allergies, as well as IBS. If left to his own devices, without his prescription food and medications, he would very well die.
He is loved — and loves us in return. He is at his happiest and most content when laying with my husband and I. He wants to be around us and taken care of. He is spoiled and pampered — more so than many children. And as Anna said, I am happily a “slave” to my dog.
He runs free — is never chained. We are lucky to live within 5 minutes of a state park — which he enjoys on a daily basis.
Where would dogs and cats be without their human families? No vaccines, no protection from rabies. That would cause a true danger to human beings and other animals.
Helen, dogs are DOMESTIC animals my dear. You sound absolutely ignorant.
Just as you claim PETA has a few bad apples, so do every breed of dog. Are there inherently nasty dogs out there, of course. The same is true of human beings. Your type of rationalization and argument proves one thing — you are stubborn and close-minded.
I’m glad you’ll never own a pet.
282. Jane Bingley said:
April 21, 2008 @ 12:56 pm
Wow - Helen is a little off her rocker. Pet owners are as bad as dog fighters? Oops - a few bad apples in PETA killed some dogs - yet, you hold mistreated dogs responsible for killing other mistreated dogs…
Wow — Helen, you sure aren’t helping PETA’s image (but, I’ve already heard so many negative things about them from a couple of my vegan, animal volunteer friends so I knew there were problems…)
I love hearing all the positive pit bull comments. I don’t have a pit bull (I’m a cat rescuer so no room for dogs — barely room for me
but my sister’s family does and a sweeter, more loving dog you could not find. It saddens me how many people have got this breed wrong. Personally, I blame the media. Dog fighters couldn’t get away with it if the media didn’t tell people these dogs were bad.
I know there is no hope for someone like Helen (as Allison said - too close-minded) but I hope good pet owners everywhere get to know the joys of a well-raised pit bull. I read somewhere pit bulls need quality pet ownership - makes sense to me
283. Friend said:
April 21, 2008 @ 1:07 pm
ANY dog is a reflection of its owner, how it was raised and cared for. I think it is possible for a pit bull or other aggresive breed to be a wonderful dog.
Would not be my first choice tho.
284. Jane Bingley said:
April 21, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
I just read Anna’s comments and I have to laugh. Yes, I definitely am a happy slave to my cats
I realize that every time I am cleaning out their litter box or vacuuming their extensive cat jungle gym I set up for them.
I am going to think that the next time I see someone carrying their’s dog’s poo three feet in back of them.
Also - both Allison and Anna made the point about Helen feeling free to generalize about pit bulls and objected when people did the same about “bad apples” in PETA. That is so true.
285. Sarah said:
April 21, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
I don’t want to generalize about PETA. Let me clarify a little. In 2006, PETA killed 97% of the animals that they took in. See for yourself http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petasdirtysecret.cfm The unfortunate part is that common everyday people who support the group do not realize what the core values of the group are. The president of PETA doesn’t believe in the domestication of animals. She thinks that we should spay/neuter our pets until they seek to exist. Because that will never happen, PETA is playing God by euthanizing more than 97% of the animals in their shelters. Common people do not realize that such values are the core of PETA. They think by joining PETA they are helping animals- what they don’t realize is that PETA has a dirty secret.
286. Jane Bingley said:
April 21, 2008 @ 6:59 pm
Thank you for the clarification, Sarah. I knew PETA had extremist problems. I didn’t realize they were this bad.
287. Helen said:
April 21, 2008 @ 7:03 pm
[quote comment="157166"]I just read Anna’s comments and I have to laugh. Yes, I definitely am a happy slave to my cats
I realize that every time I am cleaning out their litter box or vacuuming their extensive cat jungle gym I set up for them.
I am going to think that the next time I see someone carrying their’s dog’s poo three feet in back of them.
Also - both Allison and Anna made the point about Helen feeling free to generalize about pit bulls and objected when people did the same about “bad apples” in PETA. That is so true.[/quote]
Unbelievable how ignorant and stupid you pet masters are.
Cats are responsible for the destruction of MILLIONS of indigenos song birds and small wild animals. Cats are a blight on the enivronment and I repeat as for keeping pit bulls there is no other reason to do so than as a macho image or some kind of low self esteem issue.
You people are truly ignorant and have many self esteem problems which you channel into your pets.
288. helen said:
April 21, 2008 @ 11:57 pm
How is saying “the keeping of cats is disastrous for the local environment” extreme ?
Cats are pestS. However we are talKing about pit bulls. Dont try to change the subject fanatics.
This is the conclusion of the thread
“Pit bulls are for the most part kept by dog fighters and drug dealers”.
They are kept by these people as they are the most vicious dog breed available.
Anyone else that keeps a pit bull does so in order to build their own low self esteem by having a vicious dog. These pit bull “pet” owners are even worse than dog fighters as they are comitting abuse while thinking they are being kind. Really disgusting. Just like the old slave masters thought they were being nice to their slaves. Or they are scared people that need a dog as a first line of protection.
There is I repeat again NO NEED FOR PIT BULLS IN OUR SOCIETY. GET RID OF THESE MONSTERS BY THE MOST HUMANE WAY POSSIBLE.
DITTO.
289. britt rujder said:
April 22, 2008 @ 12:59 am
Helen -
You know nothing about animals and you are completely unwilling to learn. That’s just sad.
Additionally, you rant about the strangest things that reveal serious problems — everything seems to relate to fear and insecurity. I don’t know what your problems are:
- Your spelling and grammar aren’t great but they’re fine for this venue
- I don’t know if you are a terribly unattractive woman or what the reason is for your problems with men but this is not the place to work them out
- You obviously have class issues which perhaps comes from belonging to a lower economic group than you would’ve liked but, I assure you, the people that are going to judge you on that aren’t worth worrying about
What it comes down to is, I no longer am interested in debating the issue with you. At this point, I don’t think it would be a good thing for pits if they did have your support. I hate to say it but, any cause that has you on their side is dealing with a huge liability.
290. Sarah said:
April 22, 2008 @ 6:06 am
Britt-
Let’s just ignore her. Maybe she will move on to another blog.
291. Anna said:
April 22, 2008 @ 7:53 am
I agree, I think the only way to handle her is to ignore. No reason trying to help someone see the truth when they are so set on the twisted truth they have in their heads.
But just to clear the air… how many of us here defending this GREAT breed are drug dealers and dog fighters? I know I’m not… I’m a middle class, law abiding, middle age stay at home mom that owns and loves two great pitty’s.
One more thing to you Helen.. before you go off spouting that pitbulls are the most dangerous breed out there, do some dog temperment test research PLEASE!! You will find that the pitbull and staffordshire terriers passed HIGHER than alot of those other popular breeds! Personally I come across more of them little ankle biters (toy breeds) that would rather tear your leg off then look at you then I do mean pitty’s. All the pitbulls I have ever met, and that includes ppl’s pets and pitty’s at UKC sanctioned dog shows, have all been happy to see another human to give them attention.
I am willing to bet that you are putting all the stock of your “truth” in only what the media ever puts out there. Well you should know that the media only covers what sells. I don’t EVER see them covering stories of the police dogs that are pitbulls, the search and rescue dogs that are pitbulls, all the stories of pitbulls saving their owners lives in one way or another. Not to mention I don’t see them covering any other stories of dog attacks that are other breeds, or they lie and say “pitbull” when in fact IT”S NOT!
Helen,
PLEASE do us all a favor and do a little more research into this breed before you run your mouth anymore. Your ignorance is appaling!!!
292. britt rujder said:
April 22, 2008 @ 1:00 pm
Sarah -
Thanks for talking me down…
Sarah and Anna -
I am just so glad there are other pit owners like you guys. And, I know a lot personally and I have sites that I like that promote them. I love Smilin’ Pit Bull Rescue (www.spbr.org). Of course, Bad Rap, and so many of the other good pit bull rescues. Not a drug dealer or dog fighter among them…just dog lovers.
I have wondered if there is a way to group together to start getting more of the positive press out there. Columns like this one are so ridiculous because the woman obviously knows NOTHING about pits but I monitor it because I want to help inform (yes - I gave up on trying to do that with the wackadoo…sorry I lost it). It’s funny - two of my friends got pits BECAUSE they have children and they were told a temperament tested pit was a great choice. I know how incredible Daisy is with kids because she is the neighborhood favorite.
I will continue to monitor but stay out of it (I’ve added enough to the site’s stats) unless a sane discussion needs more emphasis on the positive side of pits….
293. helen said:
April 22, 2008 @ 9:36 pm
[quote comment="157318"]I agree, I think the only way to handle her is to ignore. No reason trying to help someone see the truth when they are so set on the twisted truth they have in their heads.
But just to clear the air… how many of us here defending this GREAT breed are drug dealers and dog fighters?
I know I’m not… I’m a middle class, law abiding, middle age stay at home mom that owns and loves two great pitty’s.
One more thing to you Helen.. before you go off spouting that pitbulls are the most dangerous breed out there, do some dog temperment test research PLEASE!! You will find that the pitbull and staffordshire terriers passed HIGHER than alot of those other popular breeds! Personally I come across more of them little ankle biters (toy breeds) that would rather tear your leg off then look at you then I do mean pitty’s. All the pitbulls I have ever met, and that includes ppl’s pets and pitty’s at UKC sanctioned dog shows, have all been happy to see another human to give them attention.
I am willing to bet that you are putting all the stock of your “truth” in only what the media ever puts out there. Well you should know that the media only covers what sells. I don’t EVER see them covering stories of the police dogs that are pitbulls, the search and rescue dogs that are pitbulls, all the stories of pitbulls saving their owners lives in one way or another. Not to mention I don’t see them covering any other stories of dog attacks that are other breeds, or they lie and say “pitbull” when in fact IT”S NOT!
Helen,
PLEASE do us all a favor and do a little more research into this breed before you run your mouth anymore. Your ignorance is appaling!!![/quote]
Yes you do like to ignore the facts Sarah. And now all Britt can do is insult my spelling and my looks. We have a word for siters like you Britt. Well hello my first lanuage is not English.
Anyway I guess it is common for you middle class stay at home mothers to spout ignorance. It is ok if you all ignore me, I am getting my message across to the readers of this blog and will never get through to the fanatics like you pit bull people. Britt I know now, that you like these dogs because they stick at something longer than you can, as you run away from facts.
Little dogs may well nip but we the “general public” and the “average woman” on the street that i represent, would prefer to get bitten by a little mutt that a huge beast like a pit bull or presa canirio or whatever “fighting” breed.
Bury you heads under the rug and hope the facts will go away, but the facts are that pit bulls are along with rottweilers the most dangerous breeds of dogs in AMERICA. The general public needs to be protected from those people detached from reality like you three “ladies”.
As for if I am attractive or not, well Britt are you interested ? Maybe I could teach you a few things.
oh and Sarah your classist comments about you representing middle America. Oh please what middle America do you represent ? The deep south ? It also seems like there are plenty of possible “dog fighters” on this blog ie Mike and Jack. And they like pit bulls. WHy ? WHY ?
Why don’t they choose another breed. Jack says he pits are the only dogs of choice. You think he is jsut saying that or pit bulls are actually better at mauling. Pit bulls are chosen as they are very vicious and violent dogs, why else would they be chosen. Now answer the damn question properly without insults.
294. helen said:
April 22, 2008 @ 9:40 pm
[quote comment="157397"]Sarah -
Thanks for talking me down…
Sarah and Anna -
I am just so glad there are other pit owners like you guys. And, I know a lot personally and I have sites that I like that promote them. I love Smilin’ Pit Bull Rescue (www.spbr.org). Of course, Bad Rap, and so many of the other good pit bull rescues. Not a drug dealer or dog fighter among them…just dog lovers.
I have wondered if there is a way to group together to start getting more of the positive press out there. Columns like this one are so ridiculous because the woman obviously knows NOTHING about pits but I monitor it because I want to help inform (yes - I gave up on trying to do that with the wackadoo…sorry I lost it). It’s funny - two of my friends got pits BECAUSE they have children and they were told a temperament tested pit was a great choice. I know how incredible Daisy is with kids because she is the neighborhood favorite.
I will continue to monitor but stay out of it (I’ve added enough to the site’s stats) unless a sane discussion needs more emphasis on the positive side of pits….[/quote]
Why do they choose pit bulls ?
Why ?
Because they are the most vicious dogs that is why.
Ditto
295. Jill Bryant said:
April 22, 2008 @ 11:28 pm
Hi Pit bull lovers!
I wanted to put a link up to my blog to read about Honey - my pit. (I think it gets published with my name but if not - it’s travelswithhoney.blogspot.com) Britt has been telling me there is some WILD misinformation on here but any APBT owner is probably used to the massive ignorance that gets passed around.
I haven’t been keeping up the blog for ages - too busy with work but…I’m thinking I might start finding the time again…It was fun.
Also - I like to post some of the positive pit press out there. A local station in So. Cal just did a piece from Honey’s doggie day care featuring Zoey, the owner’s daughter’s pit - demonstrating the doggie seat belts they sell to keep the pups safe in the car. Bow Wow said they will be posting the clip if they can but here’s a link to Zoey’s modeling shot http://www.bowwowbungalow.net/sasha.php
My friend said she just saw a really nice piece on Rachael Ray where she showed off her pet pits.
It’s good to see the positive rebuttals to this editorial.
Honey sends her best to all of you.
296. Helen said:
April 23, 2008 @ 12:05 am
Yeah you pit people can’t face the facts or answer the questions. Just provide a few slushy stories about the odd freak pit bull being used as a guide dog or whatever.
The fact is they are called PIT BULLS for a reason that is they are used to fight. Therefore there is no reasonable defense for keeping them in society. They are a danger to people and importantly for me as an animal lover, to other animals.
297. Anna said:
April 23, 2008 @ 11:08 am
The odd freak pitbull is the violent human aggressive one, the majority of them are sweet and loving!
Yes the pitbull was originally bred to fight, but Helen, HUMAN agression was NEVER tolerated!!! If the dog showed any aggression twards a human they were killed and not allowed to breed and pass the trait. In the fights, the human handlers were in the pit and could break the fight up WITHOUT`being bitten!! I HAvE done my research on this breed, maybe you should try the same. Look at ALL the facts not just the ones you want to hear and twist into your own truth!! Ya know 100 years ago this breed was the family pet of choice!!
How can you call your self an animal lover?? You even have issues with cats!!
It is you that cannot face the facts, just about every one that owns a pitbull has done their research and knows the truth!! We pitbull owners HAVE to know our breed and their history and all the facts, because we CONSTANTLY have to defend them against ignorant people like you!!!
298. britt rujder said:
April 23, 2008 @ 2:13 pm
Hey Anna -
I think this comment is very astute:
“Look at ALL the facts not just the ones you want to hear and twist into your own truth!”
To a lazy and limited mind, any new information that doesn’t fit within their narrow definition just gets thrown out. The limited mind can only compute information that agrees with an earlier conclusion. It’s sad when you see that as people grow older - pathetic when you see that in someone younger.
The fact that so many nice people (without any qualities from the laundry list Ms. Craziness has thrown out there) have pits; have done research on pits; and love them and are giving them wonderful lives — well that is IMPOSSIBLE for her to grasp. She will continually deny, try to find excuses, lash out - revealing a complete deep-seated bigotry which can’t be changed.
299. Jack said:
April 23, 2008 @ 5:37 pm
[quote comment="157634"]The odd freak pitbull is the violent human aggressive one, the majority of them are sweet and loving!
Yes the pitbull was originally bred to fight, but Helen, HUMAN agression was NEVER tolerated!!! If the dog showed any aggression twards a human they were killed and not allowed to breed and pass the trait. In the fights, the human handlers were in the pit and could break the fight up WITHOUT`being bitten!! I HAvE done my research on this breed, maybe you should try the same. Look at ALL the facts not just the ones you want to hear and twist into your own truth!! Ya know 100 years ago this breed was the family pet of choice!!
How can you call your self an animal lover?? You even have issues with cats!!
It is you that cannot face the facts, just about every one that owns a pitbull has done their research and knows the truth!! We pitbull owners HAVE to know our breed and their history and all the facts, because we CONSTANTLY have to defend them against ignorant people like you!!![/quote]
Helen is obviously a fanatic and has a lot of hate. However I would just point out to Anna that what you say about human aggressive ones not being tolerated by dog fighters is a myth. You obviously love pit bulls but what you just said is totally wrong and I hate to see false information spread about the history of the breed, especially by those defending it.
Both Chinaman (probably the most common bloodline in the USA) and Zebo who are the among the top five most famous American pit bulls were both man aggressive. In fact they were child aggressive. VERY. DO you really think dog fighters would throw away top fighting dog because they were man (child) biters ? I’m sure they would be flattered by your romantic view of them.
I would however say that pit bulls are COMPARATIVELY stable as they were not selected FOR man aggression (unlike many other breeds) but they were also not selected against it, and to say otherwise is mis-guided.
Helen you need to sort some issues out about your own aggression and in fact I don’t dis-agree with everything you say. But this is America and we have freedoms and one of them is to be able to keep dogs. It is up to the owner to control those dogs. Blame the owner for not controlling their animals and not the animals.
300. Allison J said:
April 23, 2008 @ 6:35 pm
[quote comment="157650"]Hey Anna -
I think this comment is very astute:
“Look at ALL the facts not just the ones you want to hear and twist into your own truth!”
To a lazy and limited mind, any new information that doesn’t fit within their narrow definition just gets thrown out. The limited mind can only compute information that agrees with an earlier conclusion. It’s sad when you see that as people grow older - pathetic when you see that in someone younger.
The fact that so many nice people (without any qualities from the laundry list Ms. Craziness has thrown out there) have pits; have done research on pits; and love them and are giving them wonderful lives — well that is IMPOSSIBLE for her to grasp. She will continually deny, try to find excuses, lash out - revealing a complete deep-seated bigotry which can’t be changed.[/quote]
Britt/Anna — completely agree with the two of you. Ignoring her is the best option — not use arguing. Enjoy your pets!